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Phones Folding phones the next frontier

Ludatyk said:
Thanks for the tip! I just turned it on! Did you install Google Find My Device? I use Samsung Find app… debating if it’s necessary to have both…
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I think find my device has been with me every time I set up a new phone
 
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Ludatyk said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/1ik8vnh/ladies_and_gentlemen_samsung_is_finally

On second thought, I likely hold off on the Tri-Fold… wait for the 2nd generation. I like Huawei approach.. it can be used in 3 different ways. Phone, mini-tablet and the full size tablet on the Mate XT… However, it appears Samsung plans to have their version only used as a phone and full size tablet.
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I’ve heard tri fold might not be a global launch as they may only make 300k units.
 
The Game 161 said:
I’ve heard tri fold might not be a global launch as they may only make 300k units.
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Wouldn't be surprised to see that... considering the price tag will be steep. And the fact it's 1st generation product, not too many folks will be willing to give it a try.
 
The best thing that can happen to foldable phones is for Apple to enter the market. Once that happens, they will become mainstream as Apple still has all the pull to set the market for phones. The US market for phones is still dominated by Apple and Samsung, this would incentivize Samsung to up their game.
 
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Awesomesince86 said:
The best thing that can happen to foldable phones is for Apple to enter the market. Once that happens, they will become mainstream as Apple still has all the pull to set the market for phones. The US market for phones is still dominated by Apple and Samsung, this would incentivize Samsung to up their game.
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I'm not sure they'll ever bother honestly. They'd still rather sell you an iPad and expand your ecosystem. And we've all seen that person stood in line at the Genius Bar arguing over warranty when it looks like their phone has been dropped from space. Now imagine that same user with the fragile inner display of a foldable. Apple are almost too popular to launch a folding phone because they'd sell a lot, their lack of robustness would become word of mouth and ruin their reputation for reliability.

I'm not saying foldable phones are rubbish at all, but there is a reason Samsung offer such generous annual upgrade trade-in deals. It keeps devices from being on the market long enough to develop faults or to become broken. I'm sure many long-term owners would refute such a statement but these are enthusiast users who look after their products.
 
Ctrlos said:
I'm not sure they'll ever bother honestly. They'd still rather sell you an iPad and expand your ecosystem. And we've all seen that person stood in line at the Genius Bar arguing over warranty when it looks like their phone has been dropped from space. Now imagine that same user with the fragile inner display of a foldable. Apple are almost too popular to launch a folding phone because they'd sell a lot, their lack of robustness would become word of mouth and ruin their reputation for reliability.

I'm not saying foldable phones are rubbish at all, but there is a reason Samsung offer such generous annual upgrade trade-in deals. It keeps devices from being on the market long enough to develop faults or to become broken. I'm sure many long-term owners would refute such a statement but these are enthusiast users who look after their products.
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Like everything Apple do, they are waiting for the product to mature before they step in. There’s been lot of rumors from reliable sources that they are testing prototypes so they’re clearly interested. My guess is they are watching the market and seeing if it takes off enough to invest more r&d into. But seeing how cell phone upgrades from year to year are stagnating because there’s not enough to differentiate phone year over year, I see this as the next logical market for them to step into.
 
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Ctrlos said:
I'm not sure they'll ever bother honestly. They'd still rather sell you an iPad and expand your ecosystem. And we've all seen that person stood in line at the Genius Bar arguing over warranty when it looks like their phone has been dropped from space. Now imagine that same user with the fragile inner display of a foldable. Apple are almost too popular to launch a folding phone because they'd sell a lot, their lack of robustness would become word of mouth and ruin their reputation for reliability.

I'm not saying foldable phones are rubbish at all, but there is a reason Samsung offer such generous annual upgrade trade-in deals. It keeps devices from being on the market long enough to develop faults or to become broken. I'm sure many long-term owners would refute such a statement but these are enthusiast users who look after their products.
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The problem with some of these often internet perceived perceptions is they are at odds with the fact that Apple have $xB revenue stream from extended warranties and the reality is many users wont risk the so called reliability regardless.

Samsung offer various trade in deals for many reasons and non more so than this year with the S25 and this phone is no less or more reliable that IPhones, so I think your observation on the Fold is most unlikely :)
 
Apple entering foldables would be great, BUT man, can not imageine what price Apple would ask for Fold competitor.. probably thousands USD and 1 kidney :D
 
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Awesomesince86 said:
Like everything Apple do, they are waiting for the product to mature before they step in. There’s been lot of rumors from reliable sources that they are testing prototypes so they’re clearly interested. My guess is they are watching the market and seeing if it takes off enough to invest more r&d into. But seeing how cell phone upgrades from year to year are stagnating because there’s not enough to differentiate phone year over year, I see this as the next logical market for them to step into.
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You are right… they are watching the market, but I think it’s a matter of which direction they go into. Either some foldable Mac/iPad or book-style iPhone/iPad device. Or maybe a flip phone, because I think they will release a foldable… as you stated it’s the next logical market to step into.
 
SteveJUAE said:
The problem with some of these often internet perceived perceptions is they are at odds with the fact that Apple have $xB revenue stream from extended warranties and the reality is many users wont risk the so called reliability regardless.

Samsung offer various trade in deals for many reasons and non more so than this year with the S25 and this phone is no less or more reliable that IPhones, so I think your observation on the Fold is most unlikely :)
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On the first point, that is a good one. I'd happily buy a folding (flip) iPhone. I guess their Applecare revenue would go through the roof and you'd get the internet claiming they deliberately made it fragile!

On the second, also a good point. The S24 and 25 ranges are effectively the S23 recycled for another year so maybe thats what they're doing with all those trade-ins!
 
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Ctrlos said:
On the second, also a good point. The S24 and 25 ranges are effectively the S23 recycled for another year so maybe thats what they're doing with all those trade-ins!
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LOL Then Apple have been doing recycles longer and with worse trade-ins if any of this was remotely true :D ............. but not
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they only release an iPhone Flip.

There would be almost zero point in what currently passes for iOS on an iPhone Fold-style device. This would cross it firmly into iPad Mini territory. iOS currently has almost zero productive multitasking features. A large folding iPhone would suddenly require split screening, slide over etc to make it viable in this category, which suddenly makes the device effectively an OLED phone/tablet running iPadOS. What about Pencil support? Can it then run Stage Manager on a bigger attached screen? Who would need an iPad Mini or even the 11-inch iPad/Air/Pro then?

Their lack of these features on the Plus/Pro/Pro Max models expose them as merely software-crippled iPhones with bigger screens. They can get away with the same lack of multitasking features on a flip device, but not a fold. It would decimate iPad sales and cause further questions regarding the evolution (or limitations) of iPadOS. If an iPhone can suddenly be an iPad, why can't an iPad - especially the Pro models - run Mac apps when required?
 
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Ludatyk said:
Not interested in buying a OnePlus Open 2, but I’m over here envious of it… hopefully this encourages Samsung to quit playing it safe.

Are you planning on buying it?
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I'm thinking about it, let's see how trade in prices hit. We need to keep pushing Samsung . I enjoyed the Samsung experience though
 
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Bkdodger said:
I'm thinking about it, let's see how trade in prices hit. We need to keep pushing Samsung . I enjoyed the Samsung experience though
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Good Lock is the bottleneck for me, if it wasn’t for that…. I’d happily switch. And we haven’t seen what Samsung has done for One UI 7 on the Fold… but regarding hardware, OnePlus Open 2 certainly take the crown.
 
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