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the future

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managed to snag the one 11” space black nano texture within 250 miles near me, which just popped up today randomly.

After having had a M4 space black 11 since release, I would rather go for the silver as the black collects finger prints and smudges like crazy. And the silver nano seems to be a little easier to find …
 
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Wind30

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I put my nano against the normal iPad at max brightness and the Normal oled is significantly brighter at the shop, well lit conditions. Is it normal for the nano texture to be dimmer?
 

macphoto861

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I on the other hand, having decided to replace my iPad Pro M1 (partly because of a vertical line on the screen that appeared last Summer) and after trying the standard model for a week, I decided to replace it with the nano one because I believe it is one of the most important improvements of the new iPad Pro
Yeah, if the "I already have a perfectly fine M1" factor was taken away, I'd perhaps be a bit more inclined to pony up the money for the nano.
 

NikkiAngel

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I'm sure no one knows, but why are the cellular 13 inch nano screen impossible to find? They are not showing online until mid June.
 

SierraVista

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I'm sure no one knows, but why are the cellular 13 inch nano screen impossible to find? They are not showing online until mid June.

Supposedly they manufactured far fewer of them than the standard glass models... the why behind that is another question... though they do seem to be trickling into Apple Stores somewhat randomly (someone else said they normally update stock every Tuesday).
 

Aka757

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I just got the nano texture model delivered and have compared it to the glossy display for the last hour. Here are my thoughts:

-Text definitely looks blurrier on the nano texture. With a direct comparison it isn’t as clear as on the glossy display. Didn’t seem to matter whether it was white text on a black background or black text on a white background.
-It does seem a slight bit less bright, and the colors are slightly less vibrant. This is in normal lighting conditions in my home.
-These differences go away in darker environments; the differences are negligible in low light.
-The difference in contrast isn’t as bad as I thought it would be.
-I absolutely love how smooth the nano texture glass is; it is so pleasant to use with my finger and makes me want to use it even more because of how smooth it is.
-The pencil feels almost the same, can hardly tell any difference between the two finishes.
-On white backgrounds, there is a very noticeable hazing / rainbow effect.

I think all of this is pretty subjective though. I could easily see someone not being as bothered by the hazing / rainbow effect, or not noticing the blurry look or any of that, or even being more bothered by the decreased contrast. So much of it would depend on how and where you use it.

That being said, I don’t think this is the display for me. The reflections are also still there (for example, the overhead lights in my home office still show up), so that benefit isn’t even there, while the drawbacks (less brightness and less vivid colors) are also present. I also don’t feel like my home environment has the kind of harsh lighting that would warrant an anti-glare screen.

I was hoping that the nano texture would give the iPad a printed page look, and it doesn’t really seem that way in my home. It did at the Apple Store the second time I took a look at it, but different story at home. Thinking I’ll keep the glossy display. I’m really glad I tried it out though, at least for peace of mind.

Hope this helps anyone else that’s on the fence!
 

NauticalDan

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-I absolutely love how smooth the nano texture glass is; it is so pleasant to use with my finger and makes me want to use it even more because of how smooth it is.
How did you find wiping away fingerprints on the nano texture glass (without a polishing cloth, so maybe just using a t-shirt sleeve and breathing, "huff huff", on the glass) compared to the standard glass?
 

Aka757

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How did you find wiping away fingerprints on the nano texture glass (without a polishing cloth, so maybe just using a t-shirt sleeve and breathing, "huff huff", on the glass) compared to the standard glass?
I didn’t get fingerprints on it in the time I used it. It seems like it wouldn’t collect fingerprints as quickly. I also didn’t want to try to wipe fingerprints away with anything other than the polishing cloth since I know I’ll be returning it. I doubt something like a t-shirt would be very bad for it though.
 

NikkiAngel

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How did you find wiping away fingerprints on the nano texture glass (without a polishing cloth, so maybe just using a t-shirt sleeve and breathing, "huff huff", on the glass) compared to the standard glass?
It gets fingerprints on it, maybe not necessarily as much as a regular screen, but honestly the only place I really noticed it was when I was outside reading in the sunlight. I could really see the fingerprints then. I just used the cloth, wiped it off and all was good.
 

rkuo

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How did you find wiping away fingerprints on the nano texture glass (without a polishing cloth, so maybe just using a t-shirt sleeve and breathing, "huff huff", on the glass) compared to the standard glass?
in my general experience, matte glass builds up fingerprints more slowly but is also harder to clean.
 

ManuCH

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How did you find wiping away fingerprints on the nano texture glass (without a polishing cloth, so maybe just using a t-shirt sleeve and breathing, "huff huff", on the glass) compared to the standard glass?

In this video, at 13:40 this guy shows how it is to remove fingerprints from the nano texture glass.

 
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Jamacfer

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I just got the nano texture model delivered and have compared it to the glossy display for the last hour. Here are my thoughts:
Thank you for the interesting review which certainly helps a lot to get an idea about nano texture. I think it is a matter of personal preference. I would say that (special conditions aside e.g. under the sun etc.) those who are used to using matte screen protectors will probably prefer the nano texture, on the contrary, those who prefer vibrant colors and well-defined contrasts will opt for the glossy one. PS. I prefer the nano texture.
 
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the future

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Text definitely looks blurrier on the nano texture.

I know what you mean but feel that „blurry“ (or “blurrier“) is rather misleading because text is still quite sharp. I would call it „smoother“ and less digital looking.

I was hoping that the nano texture would give the iPad a printed page look, and it doesn’t really seem that way in my home.

My experience is the exact opposite. In normal everyday lighting conditions the nano looks even more gloriously „printed“ than in the Apple store. It‘s like there is no glass at all between the content and your eyes. I absolutely love it.
 

Aka757

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I know what you mean but feel that „blurry“ (or “blurrier“) is rather misleading because text is still quite sharp. I would call it „smoother“ and less digital looking.

My experience is the exact opposite. In normal everyday lighting conditions the nano looks even more gloriously „printed“ than in the Apple store. It‘s like there is no glass at all between the content and your eyes. I absolutely love it.
It’s interesting, I feel like there must be some element of display lottery in play here. When I saw this finish in the Apple Store, text didn’t look blurry or “smooth” to me, and I definitely felt the printed page effect, it looked amazing. At home, no such luck. I also didn’t really notice the hazing effect in the Apple Store.

If the unit I had delivered looked the same as what I saw before, I would definitely want to keep it!
 

teohyc

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I was hoping that the nano texture would give the iPad a printed page look, and it doesn’t really seem that way in my home.
It is unlikely for matte display to look like print because a display emits light, while print reflects light.
 

Nikhil72

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It’s interesting, I feel like there must be some element of display lottery in play here. When I saw this finish in the Apple Store, text didn’t look blurry or “smooth” to me, and I definitely felt the printed page effect, it looked amazing. At home, no such luck. I also didn’t really notice the hazing effect in the Apple Store.

If the unit I had delivered looked the same as what I saw before, I would definitely want to keep it!
It’s going to entirely depend on ambient lighting. Most Apple stores have a fair amount of this, which will scatter light broadly across the nano display, decreasing the visibility of this softened text. In more controlled lighting situations, the text is going to look softer, especially if you’re holding the iPad relatively close. From a relatively normal working distance, the difference is likely less pronounced. That being said, I do see that text is slightly softer on the nano texture than on the standard glossy, though if your lighting is very bright, it may still be worth the trade-off versus trying to read around glare.
 
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the future

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It’s interesting, I feel like there must be some element of display lottery in play here. When I saw this finish in the Apple Store, text didn’t look blurry or “smooth” to me, and I definitely felt the printed page effect, it looked amazing. At home, no such luck. I also didn’t really notice the hazing effect in the Apple Store. If the unit I had delivered looked the same as what I saw before, I would definitely want to keep it!

Yeah, it‘s weird that you saw it there but not at home. Maybe if you plan to return it, do it in the Apple Store and compare to the display models beforehand in case you actually got a dud?

It is unlikely for matte display to look like print because a display emits light, while print reflects light.

Of course it won‘t look exactly alike, but the effect that it seems that there is no glass/glare barrier and you‘re looking directly at the content is quite similar.
 
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geoelectric

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For me, I expect the main benefit with home lighting/windows to be that a sharp reflection leads to a secondary focal plane that your eyes can jump back and forth from. I find that very distracting sometimes, so usually end up micromanaging my position to avoid them.

A diffuse reflection will be more across the surface of the screen. Black lift/washout may not be favorite thing in the world but it doesn’t steal my focus. I suspect I’ll be a lot less picky about where I sit and the angle my screen is at without the depth effect.

Then again, I say this without having mine in hand yet. I’ll be sure to update in 3-4 weeks when it eventually shows.

Update: yep, worked exactly like this. I’m thrilled with the texture.
 
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klasma

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For me, I expect the main benefit with home lighting/windows to be that a sharp reflection leads to a secondary focal plane that your eyes can jump back and forth from. I find that very distracting sometimes, so usually end up micromanaging my position to avoid them.

A diffuse reflection will be more across the surface of the screen. Black lift/washout may not be favorite thing in the world but it doesn’t steal my focus. I suspect I’ll be a lot less picky about where I sit and the angle my screen is at without the depth effect.

Then again, I say this without having mine in hand yet. I’ll be sure to update in 3-4 weeks when it eventually shows.
I'm sure it differs between individuals, but having tried both at home, I found the "shininess" of the nano to be almost as bothersome as the standard glare, and still having to manage the position and angle I'm holding it at. In addition, the bezels being glossy still result in distracting reflections that draw your eyes to them.
 
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Barham

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The pencil is the main thing giving me pause about exchanging for it, actually.

By most accounts there’s actually less tactile texture on that screen than the regular one. In the showroom, there was definitely much much less drag for my finger on the nano screen than regular and, though I didn’t think to try it, I understand the pencil works the same.

I’m a hooking left hander (ie my palm drags on the surface when I write or draw) so being so slippery for my hand sounds great. But not so much for the pencil.

I don’t think you’d want to put a paperlike protector over it either. I’d be scared even a magnetic one might damage the surface, and I doubt having two matte layers would look great—so what you get, you get.

But it looks so damned good for reading…
In my experience at the store, it was not a little better, but SO MUCH better texture-wise for the pencil. Somehow, with my hands and skin type, the nano surface is both less resistive (also a hooking left-hander) which is a godsend to my handwriting style, while at the same time being slightly more *textured* for the Apple Pencil. I've had iPad Pros since the first small version (9.7) with the Pencil and my handwriting looks IMMEDIATELY, vastly better with the nano screen.

I was blown away, and I feel like the narrative around this feature has been way off in the reporting. It was so good I returned my base model 11-inch glossy for a 1TB nano (on backorder 🙃) then and there despite the massive price increase.

Also, quite frustrated with Apple for not making this available on lower end (Pro) models.
 

geoelectric

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In my experience at the store, it was not a little better, but SO MUCH better texture-wise for the pencil. Somehow, with my hands and skin type, the nano surface is both less resistive (also a hooking left-hander) which is a godsend to my handwriting style, while at the same time being slightly more *textured* for the Apple Pencil. I've had iPad Pros since the first small version (9.7) with the Pencil and my handwriting looks IMMEDIATELY, vastly better with the nano screen.

I was blown away, and I feel like the narrative around this feature has been way off in the reporting. It was so good I returned my base model 11-inch glossy for a 1TB nano (on backorder 🙃) then and there despite the massive price increase.

Also, quite frustrated with Apple for not making this available on lower end (Pro) models.
Yeah, after posting that I made it back to the Apple Store and spent some time with the Pencil bouncing between a glossy and nano iPad.

I couldn't draw geometric shapes or write long form for the life of me on the glossy display for my hand catching (no surprise, this is why my past Pencils have been underused) but had no problems at all on the nano display. I did feel the slight differences between oily and not when I intentionally finger-streaked down the screen then tried writing/drawing across it, but nowhere near what it was on plain glass. And the Pencil touch feels "softer" -- not papery, but...slightly squishy? I don't know how to describe it, but it's better.

My nano 13" arrives between June 14 and 21st according to the update I got today. It's a *ridiculous* amount of money to spend given that I don't need the 1TB aspect, but if it makes me unafraid to take it outside and in bright places and enables me to finally use the Pencil comfortably, it'll be worth the extra.
 
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klasma

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Yeah, the nano texture is really nice in terms of tactility. I wish one could get that without the change in optics. ;)
 

geoelectric

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Seems like AppleCare might be a good purchase with the nano texture as it seems to scratch a bit easier.

if being marked by steel is because it’s either grinding away the texture or seeding the texture with filings, like he was guessing, at least you probably have to lean into it. It wouldn’t be something digging in so much as knocking away structure.
 
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