For those claiming 9.0 GM is not laggy...

[Apple_Robert]

I was just super excited with Apple talking about Metal. It really seemed as if they were trying to fix the wrongs in iOS 8 and even giving extra battery life to the 6. Time will tell and I honestly wish it is better, but my experience with updates have always been negative.

I like the direction Apple is headed with their software. In my opinion, it is much better than the competitors. It is a joy to use my Mac every time. I think part of what your frustration may be tied to, is that Apple gets ahead of itself sometimes, and doesn't fully execute a new feature like they would like and have represented. All of it is part of the technological / societal learning curve, in my opinion.

Give iOS 9 /El Capitan more time to mature. You may be pleased. At least look at things as objectively as you can. Doing that lessens the disappointment we often set ourselves up for.

 

[imagineadam]

I was playing with the wife's iPhone 5 still on iOS 6 a little bit ago... So responsive and crisp.

9.1 still exhibits the half second or so lag when touching an app to spring/fade and app open. This isn't there in 8.4.1.

Also say you are in an app and exit it and you have your finger on the next app icon you want to open. As the spring/fade animation is happening I can be touching the app to open it and it will react and open almost instantly on 8.4.1 whereas in every version of iOS 9 including 9.1 it will not respond and take me 3-5 taps to get the app spring/fade animation to load the next app up.

The basic function of opening/closing apps from the springboard is clunkier than 8.4.1. I know many of you are excited and really want iOS 9 to be awesome and I'm one of them but it truly just isn't yet! I've tried really hard to fool myself into believing it's just as fast or somehow faster but I've had to downgrade back to 8.4.1 and is so much smoother on my 6.

 

[Jayson A]

I noticed that people are still calling iOS 9.0 a BETA when it's actually the GOLD MASTER that WILL be released to the general public in a very short time.

So to call a finished product a beta just because it's not out officially yet doesn't make any sense to me.

Like someone else in this thread said... it's not like Apple has some amazing trick up their sleeve where they flip the "awesome" switch right before they release 9.0.

It's weird that they already have a 9.1 beta going and they haven't even released 9.0 yet.

Also, if 9.1 is better than 9.0, then why can't they release 9.1 instead of 9.0? Isn't 9.1 a fixed up version of iOS 9? It's not like 9.0 is a bug free final version.

 

[lagwagon]

I noticed that people are still calling iOS 9.0 a BETA when it's actually the GOLD MASTER that WILL be released to the general public in a very short time.

So to call a finished product a beta just because it's not out officially yet doesn't make any sense to me.

Like someone else in this thread said... it's not like Apple has some amazing trick up their sleeve where they flip the "awesome" switch right before they release 9.0.

It's weird that they already have a 9.1 beta going and they haven't even released 9.0 yet.

Also, if 9.1 is better than 9.0, then why can't they release 9.1 instead of 9.0? Isn't 9.1 a fixed up version of iOS 9? It's not like 9.0 is a bug free final version.

9.1 is purely for iPad Pro support and new emojis on top the usual behind the scenes stuff that are included on major updates. So no, it's not just a fixed up 9.0.

 

[C DM]

There are quite a few discussions about 8.4 and 8.4.1 causing performance and other issues for people (compared to let's say 8.3). There were plenty of discussions of 8.0 being worse than 7.x. Now 8.x is being held up as some standard.

It happens every year basically. Same things at about the same time. Nothing really new.

Bottom line is that many of the worse issues come down to just a small group
of people who have something with their installation or configuration or something like that. Various other issues are bugs and instabilities that apply to more, but many of those aren't things that many people run into or affected by all that much even when they do run into them.

 

[Jayson A]

There are quite a few discussions about 8.4 and 8.4.1 causing performance and other issues for people (compared to let's say 8.3). There were plenty of discussions of 8.0 being worse than 7.x. Now 8.x is being held up as some standard.

It happens every year basically. Same things at about the same time. Nothing really new.

Bottom line is that many of the worse issues come down to just a small group
of people who have something with their installation or configuration or something like that. Various other issues are bugs and instabilities that apply to more, but many of those aren't things that many people run into or affected by all that much even when they do run into them.

The bugs still exist on their iPhones as well, but they probably don't care. However, I care. Yes, there are bugs in 8.4.1, but for the most part, it runs smoothly. With all the stuttering in 9.0 (and I just tried 9.1 and it's exactly the same), I'd rather be on 8.4.1 and enjoy a smoother running iPhone.

I was one of the people who thought 9.0 public beta 3 was great, but when I reverted back to 8.4.1, I was taken back by how much smoother it ran. I must've gotten used to 9.0 beta 3 and therefore I thought it was great until I tried 8.4.1 again. Now, the GM is out and it's still exactly like public beta 3. Explain that one! Also, 9.1 isn't any better... at all.

The other funny thing is... I just restored to 8.4.1 (using DFU mode) and it obviously has to index like everyone is saying, but even while it's "indexing" AND copying all of my music (about 7,000 songs), it runs lag free. Explain that one!

 

[Paddle1]

There is a delay when you tap on icons that's not there in 8.4.1. Everything else is okay though. (For a x.0 version).

 

[Jayson A]

There is a delay when you tap on icons that's not there in 8.4.1. Everything else is okay though. (For a x.0 version).

Plus the app switcher stutters almost every time and I get stuttering and skipping animations when swiping email, swiping back a page in Messages, entering tab view in Safari and general animation stutters everywhere.

Feels like I'm using a samsung phone.

 

[C DM]

The bugs still exist on their iPhones as well, but they probably don't care. However, I care. Yes, there are bugs in 8.4.1, but for the most part, it runs smoothly. With all the stuttering in 9.0 (and I just tried 9.1 and it's exactly the same), I'd rather be on 8.4.1 and enjoy a smoother running iPhone.

I was one of the people who thought 9.0 public beta 3 was great, but when I reverted back to 8.4.1, I was taken back by how much smoother it ran. I must've gotten used to 9.0 beta 3 and therefore I thought it was great until I tried 8.4.1 again. Now, the GM is out and it's still exactly like public beta 3. Explain that one! Also, 9.1 isn't any better... at all.

The other funny thing is... I just restored to 8.4.1 (using DFU mode) and it obviously has to index like everyone is saying, but even while it's "indexing" AND copying all of my music (about 7,000 songs), it runs lag free. Explain that one!

Well, like I was saying, plenty of people have been talking in various about 8.4 and 8.4.1 not performing well for them in the iOS 8 forum. So you can take that and similarly say explain that one.

 

[Jayson A]

Well, like I was saying, plenty of people have been talking in various about 8.4 and 8.4.1 not performing well for them in the iOS 8 forum. So you can take that and similarly say explain that one.

I do have a performance issue in 8.4.1 related to Music app, but that's the only issue. I do wish that was fixed, but everything else is so much better than 9.0 that I'd rather deal with the music app issue.

Nothing is perfect... I get that. However, 8.4.1 is more perfect than 9.0 and 9.1 in my testing (and yes, I've tried both).

 

[Dreamliner330]

I was playing with the wife's iPhone 5 still on iOS 6 a little bit ago... So responsive and crisp.

Exactly. Still the most polished iOS Apple has ever produced.

iOS 7/8/9 has no excuses, they are supposed to build off everything they've learned since 2007.

Anything short of what you experienced on that 3-year-old device will cause me to complain. People so quickly forget and accept a delay, stutter or lag as the new normal. Sad, really.

 

[C DM]

I do have a performance issue in 8.4.1 related to Music app, but that's the only issue. I do wish that was fixed, but everything else is so much better than 9.0 that I'd rather deal with the music app issue.

Nothing is perfect... I get that. However, 8.4.1 is more perfect than 9.0 and 9.1 in my testing (and yes, I've tried both).

I get that, that's what it's like for you, and perhaps various others. But for various others it seems like there are issues with 8.4 and 8.4.1. What I'm trying to demonstrate is what I mentioned earlier, that people certainly don't like it and complain about things that affect them, but it doesn't always mean that others are similarly affected by the same issues.

 

[lagwagon]

I get that, that's what it's like for you, and perhaps various others. But for various others it seems like there are issues with 8.4 and 8.4.1. What I'm trying to demonstrate is what I mentioned earlier, that people certainly don't like it and complain about things that affect them, but it doesn't always mean that others are similarly affected by the same issues.

I would give up. There is no reasoning with some. Their experience is fact and no one else can experience better. I posted a quick video showing 9.1 running pretty smooth, but I never see anyone here posting a video of their laggy unusable iOS x.x.

 

[XTheLancerX]

I made a quick video of iOS 9.1 Beta 1 on my iPhone 6. I recorded it through QuickTime (can cause a bit of slowdown) from an old 09 17" Macbook Pro. But the video shows a pretty good representation of how quick it runs.

That video is not true to life usage as it is in 30FPS when we are seeing things in higher framerates (60FPS) drop down to like 40FPS or less (15FPS on iPad mini 2 going in and out of app switcher) Little hiccups are much harder to see when less frames are there to convey the hiccup itself.

9.1 is still a wreck. Just saying. Yes, it's a beta, but it's on top of the public release which will be pretty similar in performance.

 

[stephen1108]

Personally, I think the lag more so isn't the iPhone 6, but it's the 6 Plus.

 

[lagwagon]

That video is not true to life usage as it is in 30FPS when we are seeing things in higher framerates (60FPS) drop down to like 40FPS or less (15FPS on iPad mini 2 going in and out of app switcher) Little hiccups are much harder to see when less frames are there to convey the hiccup itself.

9.1 is still a wreck. Just saying. Yes, it's a beta, but it's on top of the public release which will be pretty similar in performance.

The video is 60fps. It depends on what setting it defaults to. Watch it in the YouTube app (press and hold and select "open in YouTube" and make sure it's on 480p60 quality. For some reason just clicking it and playing it in the safari viewer it's on lower quality.

 

[Paddle1]

That video is not true to life usage as it is in 30FPS when we are seeing things in higher framerates (60FPS) drop down to like 40FPS or less (15FPS on iPad mini 2 going in and out of app switcher) Little hiccups are much harder to see when less frames are there to convey the hiccup itself.

9.1 is still a wreck. Just saying. Yes, it's a beta, but it's on top of the public release which will be pretty similar in performance.

The video is in 60fps.

 

[Floris]

I have no problems with performance like some are reporting. I took your suggestion and downgraded to 8.x again and found it more sluggish going through repetitive tasks. Went back to 9 and then to 9.1 and that iOS8 sluggy feeling is now what I call snappy. I am sorry, can't reproduce it for the way I use my phone.

 

[Dreamliner330]

Not hard to impress those already predetermined to like it.

 

[mizxco]

Not hard to impress those already predetermined to like it.

If you don't understand satire and always believe reports by the Onion, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[Dreamliner330]

If you don't understand satire and always believe in reports by the Onion, you're gonna have a bad time.

People are dumb dude. I don't doubt for a minute those people actually thought it was the new iPhone.

 

[mizxco]

People are dumb dude. I don't doubt for a minute those people actually thought it was the new iPhone.

Please tell me you know how the "Pedestrian Questions" and "Lie Witness News" segments on Kimmel work..

 

[Dreamliner330]

Please tell me you know how the "Pedestrian Questions" and "Lie Witness News" segments on Kimmel work..

I would imagine the dumb ones that say what they want make it to air...am I close?

Most people are conditioned to believe things others tell them. Apple says its better, most on this forum will default to that opinion unless something is GLARINGLY wrong.

I personally don't care either way. Which is why I quickly call out BS when I see it.

 

[mizxco]

I would imagine the dumb ones that say what they want make it to air...am I close?

It's cleverer than it seems. Walk pass them as they film outside of Hollywood Boulevard.
People are gullible and dumb but not as bad as JKL segments lol.

 

[Beavix]

I can confirm iOS 9 GM stutters on my 6+ when opening and using the app switcher.