For those claiming 9.0 GM is not laggy...

[TommyA6]

It's a x.0 software release. What do you expect? This happens EVERY year.

It is acceptable for a feature packed releases like iOS 7/8, not for PERFORMANCE and SMOOTHNESS oriented release like iOS 9.
iOS 6 had the same number of new features as iOS 9, and yet it ran flawlessly on my iPhone 5 (perfect 60 fps animation throughout OS). The same goes for iOS 4 and 5.

 

[Armen]

Proactive Siri is one feature, and it isn't available worldwide.

Have you tried rotating screen in spotlight? It still drops frames like in iOS 8.4.1
App switcher still drops frames when entering an app (That wasn't present in iOS 8.4.1)

I honestly don't care about the frame rates. I'm not playing a First Person Shooter.

 

[jakeenzo]

I'm sorry but all of the people who are bitching on here about how a beta release of an OS is laggy really don't understand the development lifecycle.

I do software testing for a profession and can tell you for a fact that seeing performance issues in a beta release is not uncommon. Even though a GM is what Apple plan to release to consumers, if at any point major performance issues are found, they can always patch it and then release to the public.

 

[T5BRICK]

iOS 6 had the same number of new features as iOS 9, and yet it ran flawlessly on my iPhone 5 (perfect 60 fps animation throughout OS). The same goes for iOS 4 and 5.

iOS 6 shipped with your iPhone 5.

 

[TommyA6]

I honestly don't care about the frame rates. I'm not playing a First Person Shooter.

You might not care, but I (and many others) do. Seeing frame drops throughout the OS is annoying and degrades the "enjoyment" of using your phone. iPhone 5 which is much less powerful than iPhone 6 Plus and it runs iOS 6 on 60 fps all the time.

 

[TommyA6]

iOS 6 shipped with your iPhone 5.

And iOS 8 shipped with my 6 Plus and yet it still ran like crap compared to iPhone 5 on iOS 6.
Also, the point of iOS 9 was performance and smoothness improvements, so yeah, I have every right to expect it run smoothly and snappy on my ancient 6 Plus.

 

[C DM]

I'm sorry but all of the people who are bitching on here about how a beta release of an OS is laggy really don't understand the development lifecycle.

I do software testing for a profession and can tell you for a fact that seeing performance issues in a beta release is not uncommon. Even though a GM is what Apple plan to release to consumers, if at any point major performance issues are found, they can always patch it and then release to the public.

To be fair, GM isn't beta.

 

[C DM]

You might not care, but I (and many others) do. Seeing frame drops throughout the OS is annoying and degrades the "enjoyment" of using your phone. iPhone 5 which is much less powerful than iPhone 6 Plus and it runs iOS 6 on 60 fps all the time.

And many people aren't experiencing those issues either. Seems like the OS got more complex as of iOS 7 which is playing a role in some of this as well.

 

[TommyA6]

I'm sorry but all of the people who are bitching on here about how a beta release of an OS is laggy really don't understand the development lifecycle.

I do software testing for a profession and can tell you for a fact that seeing performance issues in a beta release is not uncommon. Even though a GM is what Apple plan to release to consumers, if at any point major performance issues are found, they can always patch it and then release to the public.

This only happened once and it wasn't a performance issue. I think it was a security issue in iOS 4 GM. Apple won't release a new GM because of performance issues.

 

[TommyA6]

And many people aren't experiencing those issues either. Seems like the OS got more complex as of iOS 7 which is playing a role in some of this as well.

Those people don't care or don't notice frame drops that much. iOS isn't Windows or even OS X, and you can't mess things up by fiddling with settings or whatever. Apps also don't have access to the core OS and they cannot, in any way, influence OS smoothness (outside of the app itself). Each and every iPhone 6 Plus (providing it doesn't have a faulty SoC which is extremely rare) running iOS 9 performs exactly the same.

iOS 7/8/9 added more and more transparency with every new version. And it is causing stuttering and lag on all devices (even the newest ones, with the exception of Air 2 maybe). Unfortunately, Apple is obviously incapable of optimizing the code used for blur and transparency (or doesn't care).

 

[jakeenzo]

To be fair, GM isn't beta.

Correct. However some people are still complaining about 9.1 having issues which is a beta.

This only happened once and it wasn't a performance issue. I think it was a security issue in iOS 4 GM. Apple won't release a new GM because of performance issues.

They will if it is unusable trust me However this late into the development cycle they vary rarely do a whole new release unless a show stopper is found. This is why they release GM to developers 2 weeks early.

 

[TommyA6]

Correct. However some people are still complaining about 9.1 having issues which is a beta.



They will if it is unusable trust me However this late into the development cycle they vary rarely do a whole new release unless a show stopper is found. This is why they release GM to developers 2 weeks early.

Well OK, if the phones are rendered unusable, then yes
iOS 9 GM isn't even remotely close to being that bad.

 

[C DM]

Correct. However some people are still complaining about 9.1 having issues which is a beta.



They will if it is unusable trust me However this late into the development cycle they vary rarely do a whole new release unless a show stopper is found. This is why they release GM to developers 2 weeks early.

Right, that the thing, these frame drop issues in some places are of trivial nature in the overall sense, no matter how much they might annoy some people. It's not to put down those people or what they are noticing and how annoyed they are by it, but it's to point out the reality that those types of things are not seen as anything of all that much importance in general.

 

[/V\acpower]

I made a quick video of iOS 9.1 Beta 1 on my iPhone 6. I recorded it through QuickTime (can cause a bit of slowdown) from an old 09 17" Macbook Pro. But the video shows a pretty good representation of how quick it runs.

I want that Wallpaper.

(please)

 

[Armen]

You might not care, but I (and many others) do. Seeing frame drops throughout the OS is annoying and degrades the "enjoyment" of using your phone. iPhone 5 which is much less powerful than iPhone 6 Plus and it runs iOS 6 on 60 fps all the time.

Honestly, Apple isn't going to care either unless they are losing sales or customer satisfaction. Not everyone is picky about things like that.

 

[ZEEN0j]

Honestly, Apple isn't going to care either unless they are losing sales or customer satisfaction. Not everyone is picky about things like that.

Starting today I'm teaching myself not to care. Wish me luck. Apple is never going to loose sales over this. So iOS will remain stuttery.

 

[T5BRICK]

And iOS 8 shipped with my 6 Plus and yet it still ran like crap compared to iPhone 5 on iOS 6.

Yes, because this conversation is about how iOS 8 runs on the iPhone 6 Plus.

How about we make a fair comparison and talk about how iOS 6 ran on the 4s. I distinctly remember lag and issues on 6.0 that were fixed in later releases.

Also, the point of iOS 9 was performance and smoothness improvements, so yeah, I have every right to expect it run smoothly and snappy on my ancient 6 Plus.

Where are you getting this? Is it in the release notes somewhere or are you simply referring to what was said during the keynote earlier this year?

 

[SMIDG3T]

If you think 9.0 isn't laggy, then maybe you've used it for too long and forgot what the OS is supposed to run like.

If you think iOS 9.0 GM is perfectly smooth, then I invite you to downgrade to iOS 8.4.1 and feel the difference for yourself. It's like night and day different.

Don't even tell me "Your iPhone is indexing... it takes a few days to be smooth again"... Yeah, more like "It takes a few days for you to get used to how slow it goes".

All in all, iOS 9 is a DOWNGRADE from 8.4.1 and this is CRAP. Get your crap together Apple because this is truly frustrating. Also, don't tell me that I need to let it index because I updated on top of a fresh iOS 8.4.1 install (so no funny business happening) so there's not much to index here.

I'm even running this on Apple's latest iPhone (iPhone 6).

Just switch to Android. You'll be much happier!!!!!!!

 

[TommyA6]

Yes, because this conversation is about how iOS 8 runs on the iPhone 6 Plus.

How about we make a fair comparison and talk about how iOS 6 ran on the 4s. I distinctly remember lag and issues on 6.0 that were fixed in later releases.



Where are you getting this? Is it in the release notes somewhere or are you simply referring to what was said during the keynote earlier this year?

The very first thing they mention in WWDC keynote, so yeah, improving performance was MAJOR iOS 9 feature.

 

[C DM]

The very first thing they mention in WWDC keynote, so yeah, improving performance was MAJOR iOS 9 feature.

Not to worry, by the time iOS 10 (or X) will be in beta or released there will be plenty of people talking about how great and smooth iOS 9.x was running on their phone and how the new one is just horrible in comparison. (As it happens every year basically.)

 

[sbailey4]

If you think 9.0 isn't laggy, then maybe you've used it for too long and forgot what the OS is supposed to run like.

If you think iOS 9.0 GM is perfectly smooth, then I invite you to downgrade to iOS 8.4.1 and feel the difference for yourself. It's like night and day different.

Don't even tell me "Your iPhone is indexing... it takes a few days to be smooth again"... Yeah, more like "It takes a few days for you to get used to how slow it goes".

All in all, iOS 9 is a DOWNGRADE from 8.4.1 and this is CRAP. Get your crap together Apple because this is truly frustrating. Also, don't tell me that I need to let it index because I updated on top of a fresh iOS 8.4.1 install (so no funny business happening) so there's not much to index here.

I'm even running this on Apple's latest iPhone (iPhone 6).

Interesting not long ago iOS 8 was crap and the worst iOS ever. And before that iOS 7 was junk and horrible and...... Seems every time a new iOS comes out, the previous one is all of a sudden the best ever and the new one is the worst ever. Next year iOS 9 will be the best thing since iOS 1 and iOS 10 will be the worst one ever since iOS began. Hmmm so the trend continues.

 

[KALLT]

Interesting not long ago iOS 8 was crap and the worst iOS ever. And before that iOS 7 was junk and horrible and...... Seems every time a new iOS comes out, the previous one is all of a sudden the best ever and the new one is the worst ever. Next year iOS 9 will be the best thing since iOS 1 and iOS 10 will be the worst one ever since iOS began. Hmmm so the trend continues.

iOS 7 was terrible at release, 7.1 was a significant improvement. iOS 8 was plagued by issues from the beginning, many of which haven’t been adequately addressed, which is the reason why people craved for a ‘Snow Leopard’ release of iOS to focus on addressing bugs and performance bottlenecks. iOS 6 mostly had problems with some apps (notably Maps), but overall performance was actually not something I remember that people complained about. However, iOS 6 is an old release and Apple themselves tout the huge performance increases since the iPhone 5S. If the hardware is really all that powerful, iOS should run significantly better on the iPhone 6, but even there the performance is just not cutting it anymore. I was shocked to see the performance of Android 5 on a Galaxy S6 recently, it is super smooth. This used to be Apple’s domain, but even if we accept for the moment that iOS 9 is better performance-wise than iOS 8, it isn’t indisputably performing better than Android anymore, devices who outperform the iPhone in raw processing power and actually benefit from this.

 

[T5BRICK]

The very first thing they mention in WWDC keynote, so yeah, improving performance was MAJOR iOS 9 feature.

Those keynotes are pretty much all marketing BS. I'm curious where else Apple says this.

You're still making this argument about a x.0 software release. There are already reports that 9.1 beta is much faster.

 

[kwokaaron]

I can confirm iOS 9 GM stutters on my 6+ when opening and using the app switcher.

I can confirm iOS 9 GM stutters on my 5 when opening and using the app switcher as well.

Spotlight search (the one where you swipe down) also stutters quite a bit as well. The proactive screen also freezes sometimes when I try swiping right to go back to the first screen and requires me to swipe multiple times before it detects the action.

Both the spotlight search stutter and proactive screen freeze disappeared when I disabled "Siri Suggestions" in the Spotlight Search settings.

Last thing that's been bugging me is that if I wake the screen after a while the gradual lighting up of the screen seems to stutter a bit as well.

 

[vertsix]

I'm sure you understand any software is always a work in progress. iOS 9 GM isn't going to be the last version of iOS 9.

Give iOS 9.1 Public Beta a shot. It's pretty damn good compared to 9.0 GM.

Not on the 5s.