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TommyA6

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When it impacts you enjoying the device, that's one thing. But I feel like people around here just aren't going to be happy with their device ever.



Weird. Every review I heard and read said it performed really smooth.
The reviewers test the device for a couple of days. I've had it for 2 years.
iPad Air 2 murders the first Air in terms of smoothness. And it definitely isn't because of some code optimization. It's simply due to A8X being much, much more powerful than A7. Why do you think Apple used A8X in Air 2, and not the regular A8?
 

Michael Goff

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The reviewers test the device for a couple of days. I've had it for 2 years.
iPad Air 2 murders the first Air in terms of smoothness. And it definitely isn't because of some code optimization. It's simply due to A8X being much, much more powerful than A7. Why do you think Apple used A8X in Air 2, and not the regular A8?

Because they knew the normal A8 couldn't run two apps at the same time?
 

I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
Overwhelming consensus that a established iOS (8.4.1) is better than a beta product (9.0). I could have told you that without a poll. Then again, the people on these forums voluntarily install a beta product and then cry about it. You want iOS 9 to perform like iOS 8? Wait until iOS 9.x where x > 1

I'm running iOS 9.1 Public Beta 1 on my 6+ and I don't have any complaints. It works fine. Much better than iOS 9.0 GM and is on par with 8.4.1.
I think the idevice has something to do with the results one gets, however IMO IOS 9 is step up from IOS 8 in every aspect.

Those who expect a perfect operating system are not going to get it.
 

batting1000

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I made a quick video of iOS 9.1 Beta 1 on my iPhone 6. I recorded it through QuickTime (can cause a bit of slowdown) from an old 09 17" Macbook Pro. But the video shows a pretty good representation of how quick it runs.


Wow...wish I had that on my 6 Plus.
 

T5BRICK

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Those who expect a perfect operating system are not going to get it.

Part of the problem is expecting a x.0 software release to be anything other than the first public release. It's going to have bugs and performance issues.
 

GreyOS

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Huh. Good point.

The issue may be iOS oriented then, or maybe it has to do with the GPU clock rate on the A8.

I believe the iPads have higher clock rates even if they have the same chips as the iPhones.

Actually the Plus renders more than 1080p. it internally renders at higher resolution of 2208 x 1242, which is actually closer to iPad's, before downscaling. this whole process could well be as strenuous as rendering for the iPad. couple this with the fact that not everyone has had a buttery experience with the iPad Air, and there's a fair argument the Plus's lag is linked to resolution.

number of pixels for reference

5s = 727,040
6 = 1,000,500
6+ = 2,742,336 (downscaled to 2,073,600)
iPad Air = 3,145,728
 
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Shockwave78

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If you think 9.0 isn't laggy, then maybe you've used it for too long and forgot what the OS is supposed to run like.

If you think iOS 9.0 GM is perfectly smooth, then I invite you to downgrade to iOS 8.4.1 and feel the difference for yourself. It's like night and day different.

Don't even tell me "Your iPhone is indexing... it takes a few days to be smooth again"... Yeah, more like "It takes a few days for you to get used to how slow it goes".

All in all, iOS 9 is a DOWNGRADE from 8.4.1 and this is CRAP. Get your crap together Apple because this is truly frustrating. Also, don't tell me that I need to let it index because I updated on top of a fresh iOS 8.4.1 install (so no funny business happening) so there's not much to index here.

I'm even running this on Apple's latest iPhone (iPhone 6).


I upgraded to the GM after having been on iOS 8.4.1 which was installed on a brand new iPhone 6 Plus gave me as a replacement about 4 weeks ago at try Apple Store. The phone was setup as new and that's the way I always set them up to be so everything is fresh.

I am finding the GM release to be slightly smoother than 8.4.1. If I had to put numbers to it I would 10-15%.

Either way I don't care though, 128gb 6s plus coming on the 25th
 

batting1000

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Aww, don't get mad. I'm just repeating what the few of you literally have said or heavily implied.

All devices seem to run iOS 9 slightly different for whatever reason. While we'd love for all of our devices to run like your 6, it doesn't seem to be possible (for a few it seems to be).
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Seems like you are the first one with a good user experience of ios9 on the 5S....
There was at least one or more similar mentions of that kind of thing in relation to 5s...followed by a very similar reply that they are the first one mentioning it. I guess taken individually they are all "first" ones.
 

lagwagon

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All devices seem to run iOS 9 slightly different for whatever reason. While we'd love for all of our devices to run like your 6, it doesn't seem to be possible (for a few it seems to be).

Im not saying it does run great for everyone, and even when it does run great it's not all the time. For the most part, everyone who does have a pretty good running install isn't either. We can still see stutter from time to time. We're simply stating that it can.

But the other way around the people who don't have a good running install claim it can't/won't/it's that way for all/end of story/only dumb people think it runs good.

There are too many variables. Apple isn't dumb or blind, I'm sure they see a certain percent of their in house test phones also acting up and are slow. The best any company can hope for is the majority don't exhibit that behaviour. Just like hardware it's deemed acceptable to have a small percent fail.
 

C DM

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All devices seem to run iOS 9 slightly different for whatever reason. While we'd love for all of our devices to run like your 6, it doesn't seem to be possible (for a few it seems to be).
That's really the case with any update, and especially so with X.0 updates. Pretty much the norm year after year.
 

TommyA6

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Actually the iPad 4 mini 4 has a second generation A8. Which is better than the A8 in the 6 and 6+.
It's the same SoC as in iPhone 6 Plus, the only difference being 2 gb of RAM in the newer one.
Just look at the performance improvements in comparison to iPad mini 3. (30% faster CPU and 60% faster GPU).
iPhone 6 was 25% faster in CPU and 50% faster in GPU compared to iPhone 5s.
Basically the performance jumps are the same.
 

lagwagon

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lagwagon

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interesting, do you know the differences? I guess one is the RAM amount...?

Based on what TommyA6 said. It's looks like 5% better in CPU and 10% better in GPU. With the biggest difference of the 2gb of ram. Small performance increase but still better than the 6 and 6+ A8 chip. The 2gb being the reason the new mini 4 got split screen. (That feature is locked to quantity of ram.)
 

bueller1

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I put 9.0 on my iPhone 6 and it was pretty laggy. Now on my girlfriends 6 and it's smooth as that video someone posted of 9.1
 
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