For those who hate Samsung

[iAppleseed]

I HATE Samesung.

They slavishly copy everything from Apple.
I went round to my sister's yesterday and had to cringe with embarrassment for her as she has a new Samesung tv in her lounge.
Its only 2 weeks old, and she still has the receipt and i'm trying to convince her to take it back and get a tv from a different manufacturer.

Samesung had the gaul to copy Apple, so now I'm doing all I can to get them bankrupt.

I HATE SAMESUNG! All their employess should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
And so should anyone here with any kind of Samesung product of any description!

And yes, i refuse to buy a new ipad until i can be sure it doesn't contain the crappy god-awful Samesung screen.

I agree about most of the stuff you said... Except for the TV. They only copied the Phone and the Tablet, they deserve to have them removed. But not Samsung entirely. I used to think that Samsung should burn but then I realized I'm becoming an iSheep.

iSheep - A person who is a major fan of Apple who will buy any Apple product even if it is terrible.

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I'm not talking about Samsung copying, they clearly copy some things. I'm talking about so many Apple Fanboys telling me that Apple invented everything on the iPhone will is BS, Apple didn't innovate one feature on the iPhone, its all been done before. They were just the first to put it into a phone that people actually wanted to buy. That doesn't mean they invented it all.

Of course they didn't invent everything. They had help from many other people and company. At least they didn't steal. Tim Cook said that they didn't want other's signature on their painting. Samsung placed their signature. Samsung violated Apple's patents.

 

[smoledman]

I HATE Samesung.

They slavishly copy everything from Apple.
I went round to my sister's yesterday and had to cringe with embarrassment for her as she has a new Samesung tv in her lounge.
Its only 2 weeks old, and she still has the receipt and i'm trying to convince her to take it back and get a tv from a different manufacturer.

Samesung had the gaul to copy Apple, so now I'm doing all I can to get them bankrupt.

I HATE SAMESUNG! All their employess should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
And so should anyone here with any kind of Samesung product of any description!

And yes, i refuse to buy a new ipad until i can be sure it doesn't contain the crappy god-awful Samesung screen.

Oh boy, that post is just hilarity keep it up!

 

[KnightWRX]

They are a group of people. I am mad at those people for working in technology yet supporting legislation which threatened the Internet. Disappointment and disgust are better words than hate.

I just don't buy their services. No need to expand any emotional energy at all. I just denounce SOPA also.

There's plenty of people working in technology that every day threaten Free computing in all its form (whether its patent threats against Open Source/Free software projects, EEE on open standards to make them proprietary and vendor locked, or against the Open Internet through filtering and abolishing net neutrality).

I don't run around like this: Image
and I don't think every GoDaddy employee was necessarily pro-SOPA, but GoDaddy deserves opposition and negative word of mouth for what they did. Their sexist ads don't help.

Sure they do, objective negativity showing why their way is harmful, not "hate" or "disgust". That's what is inane. It serves no purpose.

"Samesung are copycats!" What did they copy ? "They're copycats I tellz youz!". Uh ok. You see what I mean ? It's just unproductive and usually stressful for the hater.

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Of course they didn't invent everything. They had help from many other people and company. At least they didn't steal. Tim Cook said that they didn't want other's signature on their painting. Samsung placed their signature. Samsung violated Apple's patents.

What about the patents that Apple violated against Creative Labs ? Against Motorola ? Kodak ? Samsung ?

And Samsung to date has been found in violation of 2 minor patents I believe. One is about "bounce back on incomplete scrolling of a picture gallery" which they promptly fixed.

Are there any other "copied patents" that Samsung "stole" from Apple ? Maybe you'd like to point them out for the sake of objective discussion.

 

[yg17]

Of course they didn't invent everything. They had help from many other people and company. At least they didn't steal. Tim Cook said that they didn't want other's signature on their painting. Samsung placed their signature. Samsung violated Apple's patents.

http://www.talkandroid.com/91951-ap...er-contradicts-the-companys-ongoing-lawsuits/

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/215...tures-stolen-from-android-others.htm?page=all

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

 

[Slinkwyde]

I just don't buy their services. No need to expand any emotional energy at all. I just denounce SOPA also.

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Sure they do, objective negativity showing why their way is harmful, not "hate" or "disgust". That's what is inane. It serves no purpose.

I think what we have here is a miscommunication. You are taking my words to mean something different- something stronger- than intended. I tried to clarify it in my last two replies but it hasn't worked.

Let me put it this way. GoDaddy does things I don't like, and as a result of that dislike I respond by boycotting their products and recommending against them to any who ask. I would not characterize my response to them as emotional, and I am not stressed out in the slightest.

You say that when companies do things like this, you stop buying their products, but you make that choice for a reason. You dislike or disapprove of what the company has done. THAT right there is what I'm referring to when I use words like "disgust," "disappointment," and even anger. It's just different word choice and interpretation by different people.

There's plenty of people working in technology that every day threaten Free computing in all its form (whether its patent threats against Open Source/Free software projects, EEE on open standards to make them proprietary and vendor locked, or against the Open Internet through filtering and abolishing net neutrality).

I follow tech news everyday, so I know. I don't have to like it.

"Samesung are copycats!" What did they copy ? "They're copycats I tellz youz!". Uh ok. You see what I mean ? It's just unproductive and usually stressful for the hater.

Please don't relate me with that guy. We have nothing in common.

 

[KnightWRX]

I think what we have here is a miscommunication. You are taking my words to mean something different- something stronger- than intended. I tried to clarify it in my last two replies but it hasn't worked.

Let me put it this way. GoDaddy does things I don't like, and as a result of that dislike I respond by boycotting their products and recommending against them to any who ask. I would not characterize my response to them as emotional, and I am not stressed out in the slightest.

Then why did you reply to my comment in the first place ? Were you agreeing or not with me that showing emotions, be it "hate" or "love" towards corporate entities is inane ?

Because if you are in agreement, we're arguing the same position, which is equally inane.

You say that when companies do things like this, you stop buying their products, but you make that choice for a reason. You dislike or disapprove of what the company has done. THAT right there is what I'm referring to when I use words like "disgust," "disappointment," and even anger. It's just different word choice and interpretation by different people.

Those are emotional responses. "Disagreement" is an objective response. When I stop agreeing with a company enough, I stop buying their product. There are no emotions involved.

I follow tech news everyday, so I know. I don't have to like it.

No one is asking you to "like" it, that again is an emotional response, which is inane in my view.

Please don't relate me with that guy. We have nothing in common.

Then stop arguing with me. That is basically what "hate"/"disgust" is, just an emotional response with no facts, no objectivity.

 

[Slinkwyde]

Then why did you reply to my comment in the first place ? Were you agreeing or not with me that showing emotions, be it "hate" or "love" towards corporate entities is inane ?

Whether people act alone or as a group, they can do unethical things. They can affect the world in positive or negative ways, and it is not inane to respond accordingly. Meaning boycott (refusal to purchase from), bad customer feedback, and negative word of mouth in the case of "disagreement" (as you would put it), or purchase and maybe positive word of mouth (if the product/service is good quality) in the case of "agreement."

No one is asking you to "like" it, that again is an emotional response, which is inane in my view.

Ok, you're right. "Like" wasn't quite the word I was looking for even when I posted that. What I meant was I shouldn't have to accept whatever a company does, simply because a group of people got together and chose to call themselves a corporation. That's how your posts sound.

Then stop arguing with me. That is basically what "hate"/"disgust" is, just an emotional response with no facts, no objectivity.

That's what those words mean to you. I disagree with that definition. To me, "hate and "disgust" aren't some factless thing like preferring chocolate or vanilla. To me, hate and disgust require a reason.

We have different definitions for the words. Like I said, different people use and interpret language differently.

 

[KnightWRX]

Whether people act alone or as a group, they can do unethical things. They can affect the world in positive or negative ways, and it is not inane to respond accordingly.

Ok, I quit. You're apparently stuck in some kind of loop where you do not understand what I am saying at all nor are you even answering my questions.

 

[Slinkwyde]

Ok, I quit. You're apparently stuck in some kind of loop where you do not understand what I am saying at all nor are you even answering my questions.

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying either. Like I said, you and I are having communication problems. Doesn't help that we're having a text-only conversation and that I'm new to the forums (and thus we haven't gotten to know each other yet).

I did answer your question. You asked why I replied to your comment in the first place. Later on in my last post, I said...

What I meant was I shouldn't have to accept whatever a company does, simply because a group of people got together and chose to call themselves a corporation. That's how your posts sound.

That's why I replied. I know now that that's not what you meant, but that is how you sound with your wording.

I know what you mean. You're saying either buy or don't buy, and leave it at that. That we should be like Spock because emotions are a waste of energy.

 

[KnightWRX]

That we should be like Spock because emotions are a waste of energy.

No one is asking you to be like Spock. I'm just saying that being any other than "like Spock" towards corporate entities is inane. They are not worth the energy or the stress. They're just corporations trying to make a buck selling you a product. Either you want it or you don't.

You're taking my posts to mean something much bigger than what they actually mean. I think you're just looking to up your post count now, I will simply stop replying to you.

 

[Slinkwyde]

I'm just saying that being any other than "like Spock" towards corporate entities is inane.

I disagree. Companies have power to affect our world in major ways, and we should hold them accountable for their actions not only through money but also word of mouth and customer feedback. Voting with our dollar has an effect, yes, but it alone is not sufficient. It doesn't tell the company why the change in revenue occurred. There could be any number of reasons. And that's my point.

You're taking my posts to mean something much bigger than what they actually mean.

Likewise.

I think you're just looking to up your post count now, I will simply stop replying to you.

No, I don't care about my post count. I've been trying solve our communication problems by clarifying and re-clarifying. Oh well.

 

[G51989]

I agree about most of the stuff you said... Except for the TV. They only copied the Phone and the Tablet, they deserve to have them removed.

Deserve to have them removed? They use different hardware, they kinda look the same. They use different OS's.

If Samsung's smartphone business were to be removed ( its a tiny part of that company, Samsung makes everything you can think of, even Container ships ).

Apple's should be to, they took thinks from PocketPC, Windows Mobile, PalmOS, Symbian, Blackberry. And a couple other early Smartphone OS's.

They barrowed ideas from those phones! So they deserve to have their phone line taken away!

Silly.

 

[thekev]

Of course they didn't invent everything. They had help from many other people and company. At least they didn't steal. Tim Cook said that they didn't want other's signature on their painting. Samsung placed their signature. Samsung violated Apple's patents.

That's a pretty bold statement. Many of Apple's patents have been invalidated in the process of litigation. Beyond that I'm not sure all courts will rule against Samsung on the rest. These sites just repeat the same things over and over.... copied this, photocopied, Apple is the R&D center for the rest of the world. The Braun vs. Apple gif was a good example of how easy it is to suggest such things with a couple mockups, yet I never bought into that either. The problem is the difference in perception, and if Apple takes any features from Android, they own Android anyway right because it was stolen from IOS?

"Samesung are copycats!" What did they copy ? "They're copycats I tellz youz!". Uh ok. You see what I mean ? It's just unproductive and usually stressful for the hater.

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What about the patents that Apple violated against Creative Labs ? Against Motorola ? Kodak ? Samsung ?

And Samsung to date has been found in violation of 2 minor patents I believe. One is about "bounce back on incomplete scrolling of a picture gallery" which they promptly fixed.

Are there any other "copied patents" that Samsung "stole" from Apple ? Maybe you'd like to point them out for the sake of objective discussion.

Unfortunately you can't argue with raw emotion. Apple has a weird love from their fan base that they've somehow maintained over a long period of time. The only thing I dislike about this is that it's likely to lead to corporate complacency. People already complain about that with things like the mac pro and FCPX debacle (to be fair I haven't spent time with FCPX, so I'm not touching that one).

Deserve to have them removed? They use different hardware, they kinda look the same. They use different OS's.

If Samsung's smartphone business were to be removed ( its a tiny part of that company, Samsung makes everything you can think of, even Container ships ).

Apple's should be to, they took thinks from PocketPC, Windows Mobile, PalmOS, Symbian, Blackberry. And a couple other early Smartphone OS's.

They barrowed ideas from those phones! So they deserve to have their phone line taken away!

Silly.

If I ever decide to take a chance on another carrier, I'll most likely switch to an iphone. I've messed with every one of them since the first iphone. Almost everyone I know owns one (except me ). I just don't see the reason for the animosity. Electronics are functional items. Bitching about their styling is just so far beyond pointless, especially when the vast majority of the people on here don't consciously perceive finer design points anyway.

 

[G51989]

If I ever decide to take a chance on another carrier, I'll most likely switch to an iphone. I've messed with every one of them since the first iphone. Almost everyone I know owns one (except me ). I just don't see the reason for the animosity. Electronics are functional items. Bitching about their styling is just so far beyond pointless, especially when the vast majority of the people on here don't consciously perceive finer design points anyway.

The iPhone is a great phone, but tons of people who say " Oh Apple invented everything " must not be old enough, or ever read about the Pocket PC, Palm, early Blackberry, Symbian, or a couple others. The Smartphone didn't start with Apple in 2007, my Pocket PC running Windows Mobile pretty much could do almost everything an iphone could in 2007. Not everything 100%, but it could do all the fun stuff lol.

It all depends on what you want. I couldn't care less about how my workstation looks, it sits behind my monitors and I never look at it. Even if I did, its just a tool. I've never seen a sexy car jack before. Because its a tool, its not supposed to look cool.

Its all in the need to. My Personal phone is a low end Samsung Replenish, all I use it for is email, internet, social media, and a youtube video every now and then, and then of course as a phone and texting device. I don't run apps, so I didn't get a high end phone with terrible battery life. My little Samsung replenish might only have a 600mzh processor, but I can go almost 2 days without a rechage, I'm happy.

Everyone says " omfg get a iPhone/higher end android phone, get apps! " and I'm like " I dont use apps. "

Its all in what you need. Hell, if my carrier still supported them, I'd still be on my HP Pocket PC.

 

[aleni]

The iPhone is a great phone, but tons of people who say " Oh Apple invented everything " must not be old enough, or ever read about the Pocket PC, Palm, early Blackberry, Symbian, or a couple others. The Smartphone didn't start with Apple in 2007, my Pocket PC running Windows Mobile pretty much could do almost everything an iphone could in 2007. Not everything 100%, but it could do all the fun stuff lol.

It all depends on what you want. I couldn't care less about how my workstation looks, it sits behind my monitors and I never look at it. Even if I did, its just a tool. I've never seen a sexy car jack before. Because its a tool, its not supposed to look cool.

Its all in the need to. My Personal phone is a low end Samsung Replenish, all I use it for is email, internet, social media, and a youtube video every now and then, and then of course as a phone and texting device. I don't run apps, so I didn't get a high end phone with terrible battery life. My little Samsung replenish might only have a 600mzh processor, but I can go almost 2 days without a rechage, I'm happy.

Everyone says " omfg get a iPhone/higher end android phone, get apps! " and I'm like " I dont use apps. "

Its all in what you need. Hell, if my carrier still supported them, I'd still be on my HP Pocket PC.

you might as well use a diaper, why go to the toilet when u can piss while watching tv on the sofa?

 

[thekev]

you might as well use a diaper, why go to the toilet when u can piss while watching tv on the sofa?

Some of those designs on the right slightly preceded the iphone. It looks like you have the LG Prada and a Blackberry in there. On the left the example uses predominantly designs that were discontinued five or more years prior to the iphone. Some of those debuted in the 1990s. Note the early flip phones, old school nokias, what looks like a handspring or Palm. This is why I refer to these gifs as troll comparisons. They reference trends that died out long before Apple even looked at the phone market during an era that used black and white screens. No sane person would consider that an argument.

 

[PlatinuM195]

How would that sequence of phones look if it only included the most popular phone models over time? That may show a slightly different trend.

 

[b24pgg]

To people who hate Samsung: you realize the iPhone is 25%+ Samsung, right?

More than 25% of the iPhone hardware is made by Samsung so I always find it comical when I see posts like these:

I tried the Samsung SIII...I must say this phone looks and feels so cheap...Thank good Apple keeps to the quality materials

The problem with Android...in case of Samsung cheap build quality.

I'll never buy another Samsung product, phones included...I purchased a brand new HDTV from them in 2009. It had the well known capacitor issue...Samsung can stick it where the sun doesn't shine

 

[mnsportsgeek]

The things samsung contributes have nothing to do with build quality. Samsung contributes internal components. This thread is ridiculous.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Two of those posts reference build quality which likely means external.

Samsung parts in an iPhone/iPad are screen, A5 processor (maybe) and memory (maybe)

Samsung has done a good job (when I was a youth Samsung had a very poor reputation). Apple's simply letting everyone know that supplying them with parts doesn't entitle you to copy Apple designs.

 

[DodgeV83]

The Samsung Mobile division is very different from the division that produces parts for the iPhone.

 

[b24pgg]

The things samsung contributes have nothing to do with build quality.

I never said they did.

 

[Peace]

To people that hate samsung you do realize 75% doesn't come from samsung.

 

[G51989]

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you might as well use a diaper, why go to the toilet when u can piss while watching tv on the sofa?

That image makes no sense. Neither does your statement.

My point is still valid. The iPhone, while it has been a great product line, and keeps being an awesome phone line.

It can't do anything that my 2005 Pocket PC ( HP something with Windows Mobile ) couldn't do. As far as business and communications goes. It did everything an iPhone can do. It could do mobile video, you could download video to its memory card, had a full on web browser, MP3 player, GPS, Windows mobile was a simple OS, video player, email, voice commands, all that fun stuff, the screen wasn't so bad either.

While the iPhone is great. It did NOT introduce ANYTHING new, like so many people claim.

 

[rhett7660]

Ever heard of Pioneer, their TV'S that are five years old and used still sell for more then a new Samsung TV. Their absolutely phenomenal, I paid $8000 for mine.

Beat me to it. I actually have an HP TV. Love the sucker even though it is on it's last leg I fear.

Never owned a Samsung TV. Have had Mits, Sony and Toshiba though.

I can point many instances of people hating a company. Wal-Mart comes to mind as does Verizon and AT&T.