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Damn - no screen sharing pre-setup so I'll reinstall the old GT-120 and enable the Nvidia drivers again.
Thanks for the tipoff.

After you're up and running again with your GTX-950, download LuxMark here, like pastrychef recommended.

If you hear your fans ramping up again, run LuxMark for just a short time, 30 seconds even, and afterward you should see the fans ramping down slowly to a inaudible low level. I've had to do this several times, and it works every time.
 
After you're up and running again with your GTX-950, download LuxMark here, like pastrychef recommended.

If you hear your fans ramping up again, run LuxMark for just a short time, 30 seconds even, and afterward you should see the fans ramping down slowly to a inaudible low level. I've had to do this several times, and it works every time.


Thank you so much howiest and pastrychef!!
This totally works and things are much more manageable now. It may have actually quietened the old GT-120 too, but of course now I've got a much better card for not too much expense.

You guys have been a great help with all this.
 
In case it wasn't obvious, I've basically given up on trying to maintain an accurate list of drivers. Please use the tool from InsanelyMac, or use MacVidCard's driver list instead.
 
Thank you so much howiest and pastrychef!!
This totally works and things are much more manageable now. It may have actually quietened the old GT-120 too, but of course now I've got a much better card for not too much expense.

This is the SMC bug that affects some people but not all. It can occur with third party cards; @ScottishCaptain investigated this with Apple engineering and they declined to do anything about it. It happens most often on the 4,1.

The other fix that usually works (not always) is to move the card to slot 2, so you don't have to tax the card after every reboot to get the fans to slow down. Sure you lose a slot, but if you're not using it anyway, who cares.

I think @h9826790 also said that Macsfancontrol software can override this problem, but I can't find it now and I might be remembering it wrong.
 
I think @h9826790 also said that Macsfancontrol software can override this problem, but I can't find it now and I might be remembering it wrong.

Your memory is correct. I did say that, and it still work in the latest MacOS.

There are basically 2 types of fan control software.

1) Altering the minimum fan speed
2) Altering the target fan speed

Most of the software use method 1.

e.g. Your mac commanding an idle 600RPM, and the software alter the minimum RPM to 800. So now the fan can only run at 800RPM but not anything lower.

The good thing by using this method is the system protection still there.

e.g. Your mac now commanding a target 1000RPM because something is hot, since it's above the altered minimum 800 RPM, the fan will run at 1000RPM eventually.

However, MacsFanControl use method 2.

That means if your mac commanding an idle 600RPM, the minimum still 600RPM, doesn't change. However, the software now commanding a target 800RPM. Therefore, the final fan speed is 800RPM.

And if your Mac commanding a 1000RPM because something is hot, MacsfanControl will override this number and make it 800RPM. So the fan will still only run at 800RPM, and ignore the system setting (or protection).

For something like CPU, I personally won't recommend use MacsFanControl to override the system fan profile, because the lost of protection (of course I mean if the user set a wrong fan profile, e.g. a fixed low RPM, which can overheat the CPU).

However, since the PCIe fan is not directly controlling anything's temperature (most graphic card has it's own fan), therefore, it won't hurt anything to alter the target fan speed.

With this SMC bug, the system may command a target speed 1500RPM (or even higher) PCIe fan after boot. So, most of the fan control software can't do anything about it. But by installing the MacsFanControl and with the following setting.
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The PCIe fan now will base on the PCIe ambient temperature, but nothing else. In the above setting, the PCIe fan will stay at idle RPM until the PCIe ambient hit 40C, and rise 100PRM for every 1C. Unless the PCIe ambient is high after boot (which should not happen in general), MacsFanControl will command a target 800RPM, which will override the buggy 1500RPM system setting. (of course, that 40C can be changed. This is just my own setting and works fine)

Therefore, by installing MacsFanControl, set it up correctly, and allow it to auto start after boot. The system now has a fully automatic solution to fix that high PCIe fan speed after boot. And the PCIe fan will also spin up when something warm up the PCIe compartment. So, the PCIe fan's duty now is to make sure the air temperature in the PCIe compartment is cool enough for the graphic card's own fan can work effectively.
 
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I kindly ask from every user to give feedback to this thread and do those test at El Cap & Sierra.
Tests=Cuda-z & Ocean wave CL & VALEY + Heaven before and after drivers to learn if it is my GPUS or every GPU.
Thank you Guys!

I'm surprised nobody is willing to try this out. I'd do it myself except I have a flashed card so the results aren't valid for unflashed cards.
 
I'm surprised nobody is willing to try this out. I'd do it myself except I have a flashed card so the results aren't valid for unflashed cards.
Is it like this. The 99% of users if its work they dont touch it. Only 1 % of extreme curious power users or devs or IT mechanics intrigued by such "silly" things. The rest 99℅ if they can boot to the desktop they are satisfied. That is enough.
Also i have new feedback for those who realy care.
I tried a Tesla GTS450 non flashed at a 5.1 with sierra. It was tested with oceanwave which showed me GT 2.5 link without drivers and when i tried with drivers the card crashed and half desktop was black screen and half desktop was visible. I could not realise the speed of it was Gt 2.5 or 5.0 link because that part of the screen was black and non visible. Very strange effect and behaviour of this particular card. The card is from a brand name called twintek
 
Of course you can not. Without drivers one can run Tesla, Fermi and Kepler only. Also nobody can run Pascal until today with or without drivers.
 
I mean that tomorrow or the day after or some day, maybe (who knows) nvidia will give out web drivers with capability for Pascal architecture...
 
- Security update 2016-002 for El Capitan 10.11.6 released
- mac OS 10.12.1 released

Both updates will break Nvidia web drivers! Do not update until new web drivers are out.
 
Is anyone still running their nvidia card with CUDA installed and using premiere pro? At least under 10.11.6 and using latest premiere pro I noticed so many visual artifacts with CUDA installed that I had to uninstall it. Since then, I've seen 0 visual artifacts but of course no CUDA… But honestly, it doesn't seem that bad using OpenCL with a GTX 970.
 
i think GTX9xx cards have bugs, using a GTX6xx card with osx10.10 and CS6 with no problems with cuda
 
Scrolling in Safari is still terrible on Sierra 10.12.1, and font scaling is still unpleasant (2560 x 1440 scaled on 4K monitor).

For the time being I'm remaining on El Capitan.

mac OS Sierra vs. OS X El Capitan:
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Scrolling in Safari is still terrible on Sierra 10.12.1, and font scaling is still unpleasant (2560 x 1440 scaled on 4K monitor).

For the time being I'm remaining on El Capitan.

mac OS Sierra vs. OS X El Capitan:
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This has nothing to do with the web driver though, right? My understanding is that this is a problem on all GPU vendors, and both the stock and NVIDIA web driver.
 
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