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Latest High Sierra security update 2019-001 is 10.13.6 build 17G5019. As with previous updates, the pulled NVIDIA Web Driver 387.10.10.15.15.108 (with VOLTA drivers) does not break with the update.

387.10.10.10.40.113 will likely break. Wait for new drivers if that is what you are currently on, or install the 387.10.10.15.15.108 driver.
 
Does anyone know if GTX 650 works with Mojave? It works with in High Sierra without Nvidia drivers.
 
Does anyone know if GTX 650 works with Mojave? It works with in High Sierra without Nvidia drivers.

There are no web drivers for Mojave. If your card works without a web driver, then it will work in Mojave using the stock Apple drivers as before.
 
Does anyone know if GTX 650 works with Mojave? It works with in High Sierra without Nvidia drivers.

i installed k5000 quadro pc non efi on 10.14.
k5000 is kepler based.
it works without cuda and metal 2, but metal 1.4 works OOB.
no hdmi audio on DP.

if 650 is kepler and not maxwell like k5200 it will... run

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_series

codenames
  • TU XXX is TURING RTX unknown future on macos
  • GV XXX is VOLTA confidential NVIDIA Web Driver 387.10.10.15.15.108 in high sierra 13.6+ only
  • GP XXX is PASCAL High Sierra BETA without official eGPU support
  • GM XXX is MAXWELL no apple stock driver, BETA nv-web eGPU with unsupported patch since Sierra
  • GK XXX is Kepler chipset nvidia mojave suport only for mac pro 5.1 no eGPU
  • GF XXX is Fermi used in mac pro 3.1 2008 since 10.6.8
  • G8X, GT2XX are Tesla-Architecture FIRST EFI fx nvidia FOR INTEL macs
apple supports NVidia’s Kepler only
  • GK104
  • GK106
  • GK107
  • GK110
can not say if 700 series with Kepler work with apple Kepler driver
  • GK208
  • GK210
APPLE KEPLER DRIVER SUPPORTS CUDA IN SIERRA AS LAST OS
 
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Found this an interesting read. Too bad we may never get to experience this on a MacOS thumbsup.gif

http://barefeats.com/nvidia-rtx-2060-versus-gtx-1080ti.html

Lou
[doublepost=1548360826][/doublepost]New Wed Driver (f13) for 10.12.6 Build 16G1815) is here:

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/142128/en-us

Specific Web Driver for 10.13.6 on the horizon.

Lou
 
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Little typo. Just that people with 10.13.16 don't do the security update yet.
 
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^^^^Well, as I posted earlier, I'm not using the driver. I'm still on the "old" 108 driver. I posted this only for you folks convenience.

Lou
 
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I finally just found a copy of that "hard to find" one so I could knock out the update! LOL.

Just a fix for the latest security update?

This page can be quite handy:
https://www.tonymacx86.com/nvidia-drivers/

Mainly a fix/adjust for the security update I think, but jumping from 113 to 118 might imply more.

Anyone tried this driver yet? What is your experience?

Will try tonight – can't imagine there should be any problems, though. :)
 
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^^^^Well, as I posted earlier, I'm not using the driver. I'm still on the "old" 108 driver. I posted this only for you folks convenience.

Lou

Greatly appreciated!

This page can be quite handy:
https://www.tonymacx86.com/nvidia-drivers/

Mainly a fix/adjust for the security update I think, but jumping from 113 to 118 might imply more.



Will try tonight, can't imagine there should be any problems, though. :)

But they aren't hosting the 108 driver that I wanted to try and find before it disappeared into the mists of time, LOL. I installed 108 a few hours before flowrider posted, but now am getting error-7e7aee96ca on install attempt #3 of the security update even after restoring to SSD from NVMe. I'll get it, but if someone beats me to install-I'm interested if there are any new kexts.
 
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I'm interested if there are any new kexts.

Highly unlikely.

387.10.10.10.40.XXX series will stay as-is with minor updates to stay current with security updates.
387.10.10.15.15.XXX series added VOLTA.

NVIDIA decided to change their build numbers to correspond with other pipeline milestones (like CUDA drivers) around the start of the Sierra driver releases. I'm not exactly sure how this lines up currently, but it is pretty easy to follow when a new "series" or "class" is released.

Since the 387.10.10.15.15.108 driver was pulled at Apple's request and they went back to the previous "series" of drivers, it complicates this roadmap a little more.
 
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If prior reports and screenshots of support conversations are to be believed, yes.

There were discussions 387.10.10.15.15.108 violated Gatekeeper signature "rules" by circumventing the signing process. This is part of what caused install headaches for so many users for this particular driver. Apparently separate signing is required for each update per the developer agreement with Gatekeeper and this violated that agreement. Without being a multi-million/billion developer, it is nearly impossible to know what these contracts truly require or what rules they need to play by. Adding additional functionality (VOLTA) may have been icing on the cake.

Too many moving pieces to keep track of without additional official on the record statements available. This is basically the only public statement we can reference:

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/.../faq-about-macos-10-14-mojave-nvidia-drivers/

Did Apple fear VOLTA drivers could jeopardize their AMD contract? Did NVIDIA just decide to release that 387.10.10.15.15.108 because they knew Mojave drivers were not going to be released because Apple was not opening the OS to them as required? Maybe we'll know in 15-20 years when Valley of the Boom, 2000's edition comes out.

At the end of the day, there's a slew of users who are pissed off (at either Apple or NVIDIA or both) and cannot update to Apple's newest OS if they want to use their current (NVIDIA) hardware. Sounds like a losing combination for both parties, but maybe that is what Apple wants in preparation of the 7,1 release.
 
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Thx for pointing that out.

I am in the same boat: depending on nVidia hardware I‘m stuck with High Sierra. It worries me - if the ban continues that‘ll drive me away from the platform.
 
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If you NEED to use NVIDIA & CUDA, all signs are pointing to move away from the macOS platform in the future.

If you can stick with High Sierra for now, you can kick the can or punt (choose your metaphor) until details around 7,1 are announced before you make your decision. High Sierra should be supported with security updates through at least 2020 or 2021.

One thing to point out - many current macOS video software vendors/manufacturers and plugin developers have (or are in the process of) updating their tools for utilization with RX 580 (and higher). Basically because these work natively, are available/compatible with eGPU, and the officially available Blackmagic Design boxes use them. The user base with RX 580 (and higher) is growing. It will take a bit of time for full adoption and implementation across the board (many need to rewrite or switch to METAL), but those that choose NOT to support RX 580 (and higher) and embrace METAL moving forward will likely be the ones leaving the macOS platform.

If your tools do not meet your hardware requirements, either change your tools or change your hardware.
 
I know that very well. I don't really care about video software. I am developing software using CUDA; that is, development is carried out on the Mac, whereas production is in the cloud running on Linux.
Hence in the foreseeable future AMD is not an option.

So I have no desire of switching to a different platform. And nVidia/CUDA is also given. See the predicament?
 
Reality: If your livelihood relies on CUDA with Mac, it's (beyond) time to figure out alternatives.

It's been 4+ months since Mojave's official release and no signs CUDA will be working anytime soon. Would argue the same if you rely on OpenCL/GL (been officially depreciated). METAL is basically all that Apple wants moving forward on their platform(s).

Side argument: if hardware meets METAL requirements, why are they not allowed in macOS Mojave? RTX and likely GTX 10XX series would support METAL v2 fully with appropriate drivers. Apple is basically locking them out.
 
I know that very well. I don't really care about video software. I am developing software using CUDA; that is, development is carried out on the Mac, whereas production is in the cloud running on Linux.
Hence in the foreseeable future AMD is not an option.

So I have no desire of switching to a different platform. And nVidia/CUDA is also given. See the predicament?

Since you are so dependent on CUDA professionally would Linux or Windows be a better alternative?
 
Side argument: if hardware meets METAL requirements, why are they not allowed in macOS Mojave? RTX and likely GTX 10XX series would support METAL v2 fully with appropriate drivers. Apple is basically locking them out.

Correct. Which is why my opinion on Apple's execs is *censored*. They intentionally take their customers hostage.

They behave like sulking toddlers - apparently, the other day in kindergarden someone from nVidia took away TCs pacifier. Sorry if that sounds mean, but it certainly looks exactly like that. (Disclaimer: TC maybe some fictional character based on a TV show located in Hawaii?)

Their bragging about how deeply they care about their customers is nothing but blatant marketing lies.

Still, I prefer macOS over Windows (by far) and Linux. For now and up to maybe 2020/2021 I could live with HS.

Since you are so dependent on CUDA professionally would Linux or Windows be a better alternative?
When it comes to CUDA development - yes. For everything else: no.
 
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It's been 4+ months since Mojave's official release and no signs CUDA will be working anytime soon.

Pascal Cards was released in the summer of 2016 (May, June) with Mac (beta) drivers arriving on 27th September of the same year.

Now, if Nvidia are among for Mojave support and adding support for Turing cards, we might just have to wait a little more.

Maybe there are other reasons for the absent Mojave drivers, but perhaps it’s not yet time to dismiss the possibility of them arriving at all?
 
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At the end of the day, there's a slew of users who are pissed off (at either Apple or NVIDIA or both) and cannot update to Apple's newest OS if they want to use their current (NVIDIA) hardware. Sounds like a losing combination for both parties, but maybe that is what Apple wants in preparation of the 7,1 release.

Ring's true here, and why I've been a holdout for so long on my gear Nvidia gear (that and it helps my checking account). I read over at InsanelyMac a report of some odd behavior of slots 1/2 swapping on the board with patching 10.14 with any existing drivers*. Mojave is nice-I'm more about a fluidly running machine than the newest OS.

EDIT: *Patching is bad idea on any mission essential equipment and is only a developmental tool.

Thanks for the lay-mans terms break-down of how they organize their numeric progression. I had a feeling the 108 may be related to my error, I'll check an image from before the 108 was updated yesterday.

Maybe there are other reasons for the absent Mojave drivers, but perhaps it’s not yet time to dismiss the possibility of them arriving at all?

Nvidia historically has had the forethought of, "If you build it, they will come". All I can say is, go team green- and hope with you. I feel like if they both played nicer, we'd all have our choice of GPU, and everyone in the industry might be a little richer-but the consumers would be much happier. Just a thought from a guy with too much CC debt, LOL.
 
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