Thanks for the info. It won't hurt to try so when I get some time, I'll see how it goes. I spent a lot of time last weekend pricking around with MobileMe and it still is so damn inconsistent. Zimbra is a lot cheaper - obviously, you don't have iDisk but hell, iDisk is so slow, and has been for years, it's not worth using big files for.
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From Apple Support: sorry, Its not Push..no fix comings
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Thanks for the info. It won't hurt to try so when I get some time, I'll see how it goes. I spent a lot of time last weekend pricking around with MobileMe and it still is so damn inconsistent. Zimbra is a lot cheaper - obviously, you don't have iDisk but hell, iDisk is so slow, and has been for years, it's not worth using big files for.
It says the email is push, which goes to your device in real-time when received on the zimbra server. Of course, Apple said this as well. However, these guys have been at it since '03 and haven't changed their use of the term push.
I'm setting up zimbra through 01.com right now. I'll let you guys know how it goes. The main advantages for me is the use of my personal domain, and the use of aliases. I also expect it to be more reliable.
As far as the desktop syncing, according to this image on their knowledge base, it is capable of detecting calendar or address book changes and instantly initiating a sync.
why they could get this running and apple hasn't, i don't know. We'll see how it goes. One thing i am still unclear on however is how changes from the phone or the web get pushed down to the desktop. That is one area where mobileme actually worked well for me. Again, we'll see how it goes.
Another advantage should be that since on a desktop you can configure mail as an exchange account, email should be delivered more efficiently than with IMAP and 1 minute polling intervals. Right now i'm waiting for my MX records to update and then i can test it out.
As far as the desktop syncing, according to this image on their knowledge base, it is capable of detecting calendar or address book changes and instantly initiating a sync.
why they could get this running and apple hasn't, i don't know. We'll see how it goes. One thing i am still unclear on however is how changes from the phone or the web get pushed down to the desktop. That is one area where mobileme actually worked well for me. Again, we'll see how it goes.
Another advantage should be that since on a desktop you can configure mail as an exchange account, email should be delivered more efficiently than with IMAP and 1 minute polling intervals. Right now i'm waiting for my MX records to update and then i can test it out.
it's updated now...mail delivery to mail.app is nearly instant, very nice so far. Now i have to set up the sync conduit, get my contacts and calendars on the server, and then try to push them down to the iphone with activesync....
hmmm there goes my afternoon... geeking out with a new mailserver. thanks alot.
let me know how the sync conduit works tooif i can get almost instant sync to server - i'm there!
sync conduit is working nicely. oddly enough though it seems that the screenshot from before is an old version, on the new version the auto-update setting does not exist
They do provide 1 or 5 minute sync intervals though.
All of my contact and calendar data went up flawlessly, and syncs back down from the web apps as well. One advantage to mobileme here though is that web changes are pushed down and this needs to wait for the sync interval, although it's less of an issue with a supported option of 1 minute.
now just to get it pushed to the iphone and i should be ready to go.
wouldn't be surprised, it does seem to be very similiar.
Looks like the rest of my testing has to wait a couple of days, the 01.com servers are currently running 5.0.6 and iphone push support stuff was enabled in 5.0.7. They have a bulletin stating that the upgrade to the current version (5.0.8) is scheduled for saturday night, so i'll have to wait until sunday to get it running.
....... and meanwhile .......... Apple will update MobileMe and iPhone firmware version 2.0 to (a) iron out the bugs and (b) deliver the [purposely] missing functionality.
*cough* Agile *cough*
*cough* Agile *cough*
little update for anyone who's following this zimbra stuff -
push up from the desktop to the server is, in fact, instant. I find it strange that a 3rd party company can do this with apple's own apps and apple hasn't, but it works. Any change to ical or address book automatically initiates a sync up to the server, regardless of the sync interval setting.
In the other direction, mobileme has the advantage in that it does automatically push down (for those of you that have it working). With this setup, to get changes down from the server you either need to wait for the sync interval (1, 5, 30, 60 minutes) or do anything that initiates an automatic sync process, such as launching ical or address book, or making any change in either of those programs.
push up from the desktop to the server is, in fact, instant. I find it strange that a 3rd party company can do this with apple's own apps and apple hasn't, but it works. Any change to ical or address book automatically initiates a sync up to the server, regardless of the sync interval setting.
In the other direction, mobileme has the advantage in that it does automatically push down (for those of you that have it working). With this setup, to get changes down from the server you either need to wait for the sync interval (1, 5, 30, 60 minutes) or do anything that initiates an automatic sync process, such as launching ical or address book, or making any change in either of those programs.
no, the menu bar icon is connected to the mobileme prefs pane and continues to sync with mobileme as usual. I'm running both systems right now alongside each other, all in sync.
they would need to add their own menu bar icon option to the zimbra prefs pane to do that.
i don't think it's really necessary given the way this works. the main reason you need to hit that sync button with mobileme is because working on the desktop apps doesn't automatically cause an update, so you have to manually sync to make sure your changes go through before you leave. With this system, all of that happens instantly.