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Galaxy Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus for the next two years?
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I had the note 4 but I returned it. Just found it laggy and drained battery quickly. But I think either phone would last you two years. Comes down to the operating system you prefer more.
Screen resolution is higher on the note 4 and one is amoled and one is LCD.
The note 4 with a 128GB SD card has 32GB more storage than a 128GB iPhone 6 Plus. There are quite a few things that you can do with Android that you can't do with ios.
+1 for a dusty Apple stuff folder I wish I could remove.
I use iBooks, an optional download (applause), but was miffed when Podcasts and Tips were forced on me at the last update. Straight to the wasteland never to be used.
If you want a big phone and want features you expect on a bigger phone and that makes the most of the large screen then the Note 4 is your best option.
If you like IOS and that suits you stick with the iphone.
If you like IOS and that suits you stick with the iphone.
Have you thought about the Nexus 6? Has the same specs as the Note 4 and runs stock android and will get all the updates. Plus the one time I had to deal with Google customer support, they seemed pretty good, not as convienient as going to the Apple Store, but good nonetheless.
Futureproof is an oxymoron for gadgets, but Note 4 can still be useful in 10 or even more years. If Samsung ceases the production of batteries for N4, let's say, in 4 years, and the shelf life is 3 years (? can be more if you maintain it), you'll still have a functional microcomputer in 7 years, with 3 or more years of use on the battery. You can still play movies on it (and they won't suck compared to contemporary gadgets, because you can't see pixels anyway), music (it'll sound the same), navigate with offline maps, write Action Memos, set alarms. You can have unlimited storage on SD cards. Provided you at some point stop updating it to prevent planned obsolence slowdown, it'll be as fast as it is today. It'll still be a good secondary gadget in addition to your 2024 holographic mind-reading ultrasmartphone. You won't be carrying it with you, of course, but as a picture frame in the livibg room or pron player in the bathroom, it'll still be honking along.
iPhone 6 in 10 years, on the other hand? Long dead, bent in horrible death from expanding battery following an automatic, irreversible update to iOS13.
iPhone 6 in 10 years, on the other hand? Long dead, bent in horrible death from expanding battery following an automatic, irreversible update to iOS13.
Thats my plan for at the very least two years (most likely 3) with the 6+. Although i don't disagree, a Gig is a joke but for me i rarely browse more than two tabs on my phone as opposed to my tablet, so i may be able to put up with it.
At the end of the day both phones will last for the next two years and both will continue to receive OS updates in that time period. Its highly unlikely that either will keel over so it boils down to platform and how much you're willing to spend.
I would say Note 4 but that is because I enjoy Android more and it doesn't force you to be stuck in a walled garden. Yeah, we have Firefox OS and Jolla but Android is the only one I feel which I believe is truly stable with ecosystem and only open platform. The only real flexible and mobile OS out which iOS and WP lacks in other areas. Android is a spiritual successor to Symbian and Windows Mobile. Just done better.
Plus, Note 4 has a removable battery and expandable memory slot. And the Note 4 is supposed to have longer battery life than 6 Plus which can add more life to it. Throw in a stylus for the inspiring artists. Being more flexible or versatile can add more life and better catered for future-proofing. My biggest concerns of my current phones is the lack of removable battery which will die out within two years. Samsung owners never worry about that. Pack another battery in there and keep it going...
I found a site that offers free ebooks. Yeah, pirated but I can get them as epub and recent ones. I can easily Bluetooth transfer one ebook to another Android. SJ once said "it's more fun being a pirate than joining the Navy." And The Woz created a device that can make illegal, free long distance calls. Apple was born out of hacking and piracy than the holier-than-thou mentality most people think. The ugly nerds that Android users get falsely judged by were the ones who moved the needle in the tech industry. Android simply is a hacker's dream. More options, more life. Lesser options, shorter life.
Plus, Note 4 has a removable battery and expandable memory slot. And the Note 4 is supposed to have longer battery life than 6 Plus which can add more life to it. Throw in a stylus for the inspiring artists. Being more flexible or versatile can add more life and better catered for future-proofing. My biggest concerns of my current phones is the lack of removable battery which will die out within two years. Samsung owners never worry about that. Pack another battery in there and keep it going...
I found a site that offers free ebooks. Yeah, pirated but I can get them as epub and recent ones. I can easily Bluetooth transfer one ebook to another Android. SJ once said "it's more fun being a pirate than joining the Navy." And The Woz created a device that can make illegal, free long distance calls. Apple was born out of hacking and piracy than the holier-than-thou mentality most people think. The ugly nerds that Android users get falsely judged by were the ones who moved the needle in the tech industry. Android simply is a hacker's dream. More options, more life. Lesser options, shorter life.
Ok so genuine question. I'm a week in to my two year contract with my iPhone 6 Plus and I'm beginning to wonder how the phone will last from now until the end of 2016.
My worry is that Apple haven't exactly made this thing future proof. Having worked at an Apple Store and being a previous iPhone user before this, I've seen first hand how horribly iPhones can age.
Nothing is "future proof", but the iphone 6 and 6 plus are clearly not going to last for three reasons:
- screen resolution even on the 6+ just barley at par
- RAM is laughable and will be a stumbling block as the OS gets updated and web usage gets more and more multimedia oriented
- Storage is stuck, so you cant add more later
The camera is what has best change of holding up as it is class-leading in practical usage. But that said, the 8MP resolution will become more and more of a hinderance as resolution of TVs desktop computers increases, because that is where these images are shared to and viewed
I have, but would want more memory than what is offered.
Thanks for the feedback all.
The 6+ is a solid phone, I'm genuinely quite happy with it. But on paper, the Note 4 makes so much more sense. Going to phone my network tomorrow and see if I have any exchange options.
At 401 ppi the pixels are not visible, any more resolution is basically a waste of battery life. I have no idea why you people want 500+ ppi, maybe on a pentile display but apples is not pentile.
4S come with super duper retina display. You, Apple already done years of research that human do not need anything above 300ppi. Apple why do you want to waste battery and go up to 400ppi. Apple your mind has gone konk and stupid stupid now.
Why do people keep saying this? I can see more things on my GPS/map apps for example with the higher resolution. I posted pics comparing my Note 3 to a Note 4. Sharper text, more of the map, more street names on screen, etc. Higher res is a GREAT plus for me.
Why do people keep saying this? Because Apple spends a lot of time seeding this idea in order to defend why it offers a less than best-in-class screen in a premium priced product.
Overblown apps on iPhone 6 plus. It's been 2 months since its release. So give developers at least 6 months to optimized new resolution for iPhone 6 plus users.
At least it's not like Android high end phones. The new Quad HD can't access certain apps in play store as well. I have issues with not being able to even download android apps for my LG G3 like Watch Disney for the kids since it doesn't support quad HD yet. And G3 was released late June/early July 2014. So like 4 plus months of no updated app to run on the G3 (and probably doesn't run on similar Nexus 6 or Note 4 as well).
At least it's not like Android high end phones. The new Quad HD can't access certain apps in play store as well. I have issues with not being able to even download android apps for my LG G3 like Watch Disney for the kids since it doesn't support quad HD yet. And G3 was released late June/early July 2014. So like 4 plus months of no updated app to run on the G3 (and probably doesn't run on similar Nexus 6 or Note 4 as well).
It simply boils down to whether or not you like iOS or Android better.
Apple will continue to push updates to the 6+ for at least 4 years. Samsung will probably update the Note 4 for at least 2.
The only major difference is the the resale value of the 6 Plus will be higher than the Note 4 in 2 years if that matters to you.
As usual the difference in how Android and iOS manage resources makes a direct spec comparison useless. So decide which OS you like better and go for it.
Apple will continue to push updates to the 6+ for at least 4 years. Samsung will probably update the Note 4 for at least 2.
The only major difference is the the resale value of the 6 Plus will be higher than the Note 4 in 2 years if that matters to you.
As usual the difference in how Android and iOS manage resources makes a direct spec comparison useless. So decide which OS you like better and go for it.
When you have best in class products such as Apple does, the product sells itself. (Including the screen)
The one thing that is certain about Apple products is that they do NOT sell themselves. Read the article called "Seeing through the illusion: understanding Apple's mastery of the media"
http://9to5mac.com/2014/08/29/seeing-through-the-illusion-understanding-apples-mastery-of-the-media/
Your post reflects the all too common sense going out of the window when it comes to the internet. "If it's published on the internet" it must be true and valid.
I have a bridge to sell you. Interested?
I do agree every fortune 500 company manipulates the media; as postulated. However no one forces anyone to buy anything. As I said in another post; this is not witchcraft, no spell has been placed on anybody. Apple built a superior product and provides what customers want and that is reflected in their stock price and market cap.
Certainly that article represents on a new spin on an old hackneyed topic.
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Your post has zero logic.
First the point is not whether something is on the internet or not. READ the article. Try and UNDERSTAND and ASSESS the contents....before you post.
There is no mention of witchcraft in there - there is detailed overview of a comprehensive media manipulation process.
EVERY big company manipulates the media, you claim? No - they all TRY to. Problem is most are amateurish and dont do it comprehensively. So the result is that they dont get anywhere near the effect. In fact many get no effect at all from it - they just look really insincere and obviously manipulative, so it gets ignored. What the article above does for you is lay out how one company takes this agenda and follows it consistently and properly. Its not magic or witchcraft - it's disciplined execution of a strategy.
"Superior" based on what? You said so? Ok - that's a highly objective assessment...
"Stock price" "market cap" - these are words you have repeated but you have no clue what they mean. Stock market does not rise because you have a superior product - it rises because of confidence in your ability to capture a premium return from your product - regardless of whatever that product is - this can mean you have patents to protect your product, your have a sales process, you haver retail distribution, you have low cost of manufacturing etc. I mean are gonna tell me McDonalds stock price and market cap reflects their ability to make the best hamburger in the world? Utter nonsense....
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Ok so genuine question. I'm a week in to my two year contract with my iPhone 6 Plus and I'm beginning to wonder how the phone will last from now until the end of 2016.
For starters I don't really care about resell value. After two years you're not going to get much either way and I usually pass my devices on to family members instead.
My iPhone has Apple Care+ and from experience I'm comfortable in the knowledge that any issues would get taken care of.
My worry is that Apple haven't exactly made this thing future proof. Having worked at an Apple Store and being a previous iPhone user before this, I've seen first hand how horribly iPhones can age.
This is where the Galaxy Note 4 comes in. Despite the lack of support my time with a Galaxy S4 has been great. The hardware is reliable and even now it feels reasonably zippy. My previous iPhones were showing their age at two years. I still use it occasionally as a lot of my content is still on there and the AMOLED display is just so damn vibrant. The overpowered Note 4 should get two years out of it comfortably.
Then it comes down to Android. Honestly I'm comfortable with both OSs, but it frustrates me when I can't do something as straight forward as share content directly to WhatsApp in iOS. Not to mention that two months after release some apps (such as WhatsApp) look comically blown up on the 6 Plus. Exclusive apps aside, the Android versions of the main apps I use work just as well if not better (thanks to their optimised size), I'm not really seeing the "polish" people bang on about. Small things like notifications are also handled better in Android etc.
To finish off this rather long post, just wanted to add that I really like my 6 Plus, it's a great phone. But I'm not sure how I feel about using it for the next two years.
tl;dr: both phones seem great but if it were you, which would you be comfortable using for the next 24 months?
Disclaimer: No, I am not being paid by Samsung to post this
stick with the 6 Plus, the better battery life and longer support guranteed by Apple and the future proofness of the Apple A8 will give you at least 3 years minimum out your 6 Plus, by February 2015, all applications and app updates that are submitted to the iOS App store have to support 64 bit code, so the apps that arent updated to 64 bit yet, will give 6/6 plus owners a 40% speed boost running the application in 64 bit mode then 32 bit mode, which is a dramatic speed increase from app updates alone(and not even software updates from Apple that will further improve performance)
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cant compare note 3 screen to 6 Plus screen, Note 3 uses pentile pixel layout screen and red and blue subpixels on the Note 3 are under 300 PPI, which is why you see such a dramatic difference going from the Note 3 to the Note 4 display, it is because both use pentile pixel layout, going from a 1080p panel to Quad HD panel with RGB Pixel layout you will not see no where near the difference in clarity or sharpness (you most likely cant even tell any differnce at all) because after a certain point you really cant make out any more pixels. (anything above 400 ppi really)
My question is why are you on an Apple site just trolling to create controversy? You like your products and we like ours, why can't we just leave it at that?
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