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The app refresh and slight choppy game animation are just minor quibbles. Samsung get several things right with touch Wiz too. It does not take away from the amazing piece of hardware that Samsung has created.

A thing that frustrated me about the Nexus 6 was it's awkward size. I can't belive I'm holding a 5.7 inch device with note 5. Material design is great but it does no favors on an amoled screen. It's one of the main reasons I rooted the Nexus 6. I couldn't stand all the white. The ability to change the look of the Note 5 with a dark theme is great.

Yeah The nexus 6 width I think more than anything else makes it feel so big by comparison to nearly all other smartphones bar Lumia 1520 / Blackberry Passport
 
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Is the theming only on TW? I've enabled the dark theme on my edge+ and absolutely LOVE LOVE it. I thought its was a lollipop thing. Thank God someone finally figured out we use our phones in the dark.
 
Just to add, being bothered by refreshes goes to user experience. And describing your user experience is a subjective thing. So I can't and won't debate it. There's simply no point. What you say, is your truth. End of story. It really does comes down to making a compromise on features. There's not a single phone that will check all boxes for everyone. I'm guessing most will put up with Samsung's aggressive RAM management for the high end hardware. The best display, premium design and materials, and top of the class camera. In fact, from my experience, I would argue the biggest deciding factor in choosing a phone is quality of camera first and foremost. Even before battery life. But please, go on about those refreshes and feel free to buy something else. It's your right as a consumer. Until the perfect phone comes along (it never will), compromise, that's always what's is been about.
It's strange then that the phones carrying the best cameras have not always been the best sellers. For example the Nokia Lumia range pushed the envelope for a number of years with Carl Zeiss glass and impressive sensors. You could say in that situation that Windows put people off, and I would agree with that because user experience trumps even hardware for the mass market.

You can have the best screens, the best camera and all the RAM you want but a more popular device with half the specs can come in and be more popular if the user experience is perceived as better.
 
But other than bashing the iphone, which seems to happen in a lot of non-iphone threads, you claim the biggest deciding factor is the camera. That the iphone 6 outsold all recent Samsung models are you suggesting that consumers think the iphone 6 is "best in class"? Reading between your own lines.

Well I think we can agree the iPhone has enjoyed top dog status for a very long time. Let's be honest, an android OEM would not get away with charging what Apple charges for the same hardware. So it's in a position where it's getting by in big part by brand name. But it was only recently that tech reveiwers became comfortable with saying that another phone camera was just as good as the iPhone's (Note 4.) So the general perception and word of mouth going around was iPhones have the best cameras. But with the GS6 and forward, reviewers are in concensus with declaring Sammy having the best display and camera hands down. So going forward I believe consumer perception will eventually match the reality of who actually has the best camera. Therefore leading to a change in choice of purchase. But I also believe Apple has some of the most loyal customers that simple don't care, and the big numbers Apple sees in sales are for the most part repeat buyers. Otherwise Apple's world market share would be a lot more than it is. It's not really growing as the sales number would make one believe.
 
Which dark theme are you referring to?
If I go into display settings you can download more themes. There are some free ones and some paid ones. There is a free dark theme in there that is superb, darkens the phone dialer, settings, messages, pretty much everything.
 
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It's strange then that the phones carrying the best cameras have not always been the best sellers. For example the Nokia Lumia range pushed the envelope for a number of years with Carl Zeiss glass and impressive sensors. You could say in that situation that Windows put people off, and I would agree with that because user experience trumps even hardware for the mass market.

You can have the best screens, the best camera and all the RAM you want but a more popular device with half the specs can come in and be more popular if the user experience is perceived as better.

Well I didn't mean the camera was the ONLY reason. Those Nokias are total bricks. And Windows was just way too new with no apps. The damage was done. MS took way too long getting on board with modern smartphones. The same way BB took way too long with a good touchscreen smartphone. Thats not to say a new OS doesn't have a chance. In fact Samsung is the only one who has a real chance at pulling it off with Tizen. Because Tizen will look and feel very much like something familiar to most people that have had a Samsung. That would be TouchWiz. As long as they have a majority of the most popular apps in the Tizen store, they'll be good. But I should stay on topic, my apologies to the mods and OP.
 
Well I think we can agree the iPhone has enjoyed top dog status for a very long time. Let's be honest, an android OEM would not get away with charging what Apple charges for the same hardware. So it's in a position where it's getting by in big part by brand name. But it was only recently that tech reveiwers became comfortable with saying that another phone camera was just as good as the iPhone's (Note 4.) So the general perception and word of mouth going around was iPhones have the best cameras. But with the GS6 and forward, reviewers are in concensus with declaring Sammy having the best display and camera hands down. So going forward I believe consumer perception will eventually match the reality of who actually has the best camera. Therefore leading to a change in choice of purchase. But I also believe Apple has some of the most loyal customers that simple don't care, and the big numbers Apple sees in sales are for the most part repeat buyers. Otherwise Apple's world market share would be a lot more than it is. It's not really growing as the sales number would make one believe.
Apple have a loyal fan base but it simply works! Software wise it is limited at certain things but the software won't freeze, have consistent lag or struggle with easy tasks.

The software is a big reason why I'm back as I love Samsung phones but the things that are simple failed too many times.
 
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I think it is quite amusing in this thread.....the people who actually OWN the note 5 are not complaining about app refreshes. But those that do not and might not get the phone bring it up constantly.

I am amazed at how this phone feels in my hand. It is right up there with my iphone 6 plus on ergonomics.
It is by far the best Android phone I have had to date.
 
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Apple have a loyal fan base but it simply works! Software wise it is limited at certain things but the software won't freeze, have consistent lag or struggle with easy tasks.

The software is a big reason why I'm back as I love Samsung phones but the things that are simple failed too many times.

It's really all personal preference. I left windows because the hardware was simply lacking. Give me a Note 5 running Windows 10 and I'll give it a shot again. But I really enjoy androids freedom to customize. Some feel Windows runs incredibly smooth (even smother than its.) I agree it's smooth, but I don't feel Android on my Note 4 is any worse.
 
Is the theming only on TW? I've enabled the dark theme on my edge+ and absolutely LOVE LOVE it. I thought its was a lollipop thing. Thank God someone finally figured out we use our phones in the dark.

No lots of other companies offer it too. HTC SENSE 7 has a stack of it as well ability to create your own, most Chinese / Asian handsets have had theme engines for years too and before lollipop.
 
Yeah The nexus 6 width I think more than anything else makes it feel so big by comparison to nearly all other smartphones bar Lumia 1520 / Blackberry Passport
Yeah, with the little time I've owned the Note 5, I've realized I'm over the size of the Nexus 6. Dont get me wrong, I do love the N6 for what it is but the size factor isn't for me anymore. I'm still undecided whether or not I'm going to keep the Note 5 but, I've definitely decided I want something a tad smaller than the N6.
 
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I think it is quite amusing in this thread.....the people who actually OWN the note 5 are not complaining about app refreshes. But those that do not and might not get the phone bring it up constantly.

I am amazed at how this phone feels in my hand. It is right up there with my iphone 6 plus on ergonomics.
It is by far the best Android phone I have had to date.

I was about to mention that, but I think some are just on a crusade to grab any negative point and ride it like there's nothing else to talk about. Like there's nothing bigger about Note 5 and what makes it stand out had and shoulders amongst the crowd. But the fact is, it's such a crushing deal breaker for some. Oh well hope they enjoy their mid tier camera and display. It's good to have choices. ;)
 
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That's actually my exact point too and possibly why it disappoints, because undoubtably if the new Touchwiz on the S6/S6e/Note5/Edge+ was optimised we would have the as close to perfect the devices we could wish for...

And I only did the test because it was asked by azhurvadal - if someone could run same test and post results :)
And I thank you for it.
I think other phones will have similar results, or at least better than TW.
From what I've read on some forums, those who are complaining about this are mostly people who compared Note 5 to other Flagship android phones through videos. And they do have a valid point.

I have one question for you who already own Note 5 : does the current app refreshing methods really bothering you on your daily usage?
 
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I was about to mention that, but I think some are just on a crusade to grab any negative point and ride it like there's nothing else to talk about. Like there's nothing bigger about Note 5 and what makes it stand out had and shoulders amongst the crowd. But the fact is, it's such a crushing deal breaker for some. Oh well hope they enjoy their mid tier camera and display. It's good to have choices. ;)
I'm sure I am not the only one here reading your post and sniggering through my fingers at the irony between the start and end of what you have just written. Even your regular 'liker' must be mildly embarrassed by that one. :p :)
 
Well I think we can agree the iPhone has enjoyed top dog status for a very long time. Let's be honest, an android OEM would not get away with charging what Apple charges for the same hardware. So it's in a position where it's getting by in big part by brand name. But it was only recently that tech reveiwers became comfortable with saying that another phone camera was just as good as the iPhone's (Note 4.) So the general perception and word of mouth going around was iPhones have the best cameras. But with the GS6 and forward, reviewers are in concensus with declaring Sammy having the best display and camera hands down. So going forward I believe consumer perception will eventually match the reality of who actually has the best camera. Therefore leading to a change in choice of purchase. But I also believe Apple has some of the most loyal customers that simple don't care, and the big numbers Apple sees in sales are for the most part repeat buyers. Otherwise Apple's world market share would be a lot more than it is. It's not really growing as the sales number would make one believe.
I think this post doesn't represent the reality of the market. To each their own though.
 
I was about to mention that, but I think some are just on a crusade to grab any negative point and ride it like there's nothing else to talk about. Like there's nothing bigger about Note 5 and what makes it stand out had and shoulders amongst the crowd. But the fact is, it's such a crushing deal breaker for some. Oh well hope they enjoy their mid tier camera and display. It's good to have choices. ;)

There are many of us here who own near identical Samsung hardware as the Note 5 such as the S6 & S6 Edge - this is a discussion forum. We are not restricted to only discussing things 'you' want to talk about.

The Ram issue were discussing affects more than just the Note 5 it affects all Samsung's 2015 flagships.

Last time I checked those of us with other Samsung devices (S6 / S6 Edge) as far as I a aware have the same camera and similarly praised displays.

If you do not wish to discuss the topic that we are talking about - feel free to choose to ignore it.
 
I was about to mention that, but I think some are just on a crusade to grab any negative point and ride it like there's nothing else to talk about. Like there's nothing bigger about Note 5 and what makes it stand out had and shoulders amongst the crowd. But the fact is, it's such a crushing deal breaker for some. Oh well hope they enjoy their mid tier camera and display. It's good to have choices. ;)
Yeah some mention it and seem to have a personal crusade about it. They mention it so many times repeatedly yet. I used to have so much respect for some. But after seeing their personal agenda get in the way of any impartial un biased discussion.....not so much anymore. I think I am going to start doing this to phones I don't like in other threads. Just repeat over and over all the negative. This will be interesting.
 
Yeah some mention it and seem to have a personal crusade about it. They mention it so many times repeatedly yet. I used to have so much respect for some. But after seeing their personal agenda get in the way of any impartial un biased discussion.....not so much anymore. I think I am going to start doing this to phones I don't like in other threads. Just repeat over and over all the negative. This will be interesting.
Think you both need to take your own advice

Think this post is laughable

Pointing out a legitimate flaw is not being negative. ..it's pointing out a device's fault. How many here have said the note 5 isn't a great device?

Many have said it's a joke what the software still is
 
Can anyone tell the difference in picture quality?

Here's Shanghai Dumplings from the Note 5

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American breakfast with biscuit and gravy from the Nexus 6

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Can anyone tell the difference in picture quality?

There is a bit more grain in the rear of the image on the Nexus 6 - where the tomato juice / ketchup bottle is.

Then the Note 5 has over exposed area in back but generally more balanced and noticeably less grain, but its hard to compare when it's not same picture subject.


That dumpling looks disgusting, what is in that?

I assume it will be usual recipe of minced pork / scallions / ginger etc? I love Shanghai dumplings. :)
 
Yeah, with the little time I've owned the Note 5, I've realized I'm over the size of the Nexus 6. Dont get me wrong, I do love the N6 for what it is but the size factor isn't for me anymore. I'm still undecided whether or not I'm going to keep the Note 5 but, I've definitely decided I want something a tad smaller than the N6.

The upcoming Hauwei Nexus is supposed to be very similar in size and actual design to the Note 5.

This new Nexus will have a 5.7" screen the same as the Note 5. It will have a metal body like the iPhone 6 / One M8. It will have the rounded edges like the Note 5. And rumors say it will have a large 3400mAh battery.

Will officially be announced in October, and will be running stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow out of the box.
 
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