Galaxy S3: Apple Better Wake Up!

[nuckinfutz]

Boy

I'm waiting for one of these threads to actually have some meat to it. It's the same template

Step 1

Start out by creating faux credibility to claiming how long you've owned an iPhone or other Apple product or how many devices.

Step 2

Trot out the anecdotes about how competitor x product is sweeping through friends. For added effect admit that you are envious or beginning to sway yourself.

Step 3

Toss out unsubstantiated rhetoric about features and fail to provide any context about how this is or isn't going to translate to the larger populace

Step 4

Proclaim you have no intention of creating a battle or a flamefest


There you have it. Forum 101

 

[Mac.World]

I'm sorry, guys, but this is an Apple forum full of Apple devotees, no? Don't post here if you don't want some commenting from us. You can go to one of the many Android-only forums if you can't bear the criticsm.

I responded to the thread, you started the war. I tried being reasonable, you took it too far.

Look below. This was your first post in here. You call this reasonable? This is called trolling, and far from constructive criticism or an intelligent argument.

Here you go to refresh your memory:

I am not tempted at all. Ugly design, worst excuse for software (TouchWiz is atrocious), and cheap build quality. I almost bought a One X, but Android personally has too many issues.

Specs do not make a device, the experience does. And I don't think any rabid Android fan could claim that an out-of-the-box GS3 can match an iPhone in terms of user friendliness, fluidity, elegance, and simplicity.

 

[zbarvian]

Yes, it is an Apple forum and we all own Apple products. But there were so many of us Android, Symbian, Windows and WebOS users requesting our own section of the board, that the Admin was gracious enough to give it to us. This way, the rest of the board remains Apple friendly and we don't have to post non Apple stuff there. We don't want to have to go to other forums to talk about our non-iOS devices and many of us have been here for years and prefer to comment on all of our owned devices in one place.

Now, for someone like you to just post negative comments in this section to start arguments is against the forum rules. It's called trolling. And if you persist, I will report you to the mods and they can take whatever action they see fit. Do you see any of us posting in the iphone forum with constant attacks and negative posts? Now, I shall not discuss anything with you further.

I'm not starting arguments, I'm posting my opinions. I don't only have negative opinions, you just disagree with my negative opinions and thereby start a flame war. Hardly my problem. But excellent, yes, good day sir.

 

[Vegastouch]

I doubt he has ever owned an Android phone, much less one running ics or jb, to be able to tell you any features. I'm not gonna post responses to this guy any more. In fact, if he keeps trolling with nothing but negative comments, I will report him.

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True and thanks for the correction on the Light flow app. i forgot that about it requiring root on North American S3's. Still, at least the stock LED notification works (even if you can't tell if it is an email, missed call or a text. You at least know you missed something.)

And don't expect JB any time soon on the S3. You know the carriers will dick around for 6 months before releasing it. (BTW, I was listening to Android Central podcasts and they confirmed Samsung already has an Alpha JB ROM for the S3. Looks like they are speeding up the OS updates.)

Stock LED's ive figured out that blue is email(i use the stock mail client w/ Yahoo). Not sure why that one is the only one that blinks though....hmmm. Red i think is a text...or a tweet...perhaps a GMail...lol.

Anyways, i dont think it will take the carriers long to get it out. T-Mobile got out ICS for the S2 pretty fast and since the GS3 is still new, it would benefit them to get JB out quickly so they can sell more of them. Especially if they do it by the time the new iPhone is going to come out.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Apple and iOS fans should know that Apple will never make a phone like the SGS3.


Just look at the Macs. Just this year they got USB 3.0.

If you want big powerful phones then you should switch and buy another phone, be out Android or whatever.

Stop asking Apple to give you something they will not give you. I understood this when I saw iOS 6, and that's why I bought the SGS3.

IPhones are nice easy little phones, but they are not super phones. Understand this and stop expecting a SGS3 iPhone.

At has nothing to do with business model and more do with usage. 4.8" is too large of a phone to operate comfortably with one hand.

USB 3.0 came to the Macs when it was included in Ivy Bridge for free.


At this point Galaxy lovers are somehow expecting us iPhone owners to ignore reality which is the iPhone outsells the GS3 by a large margin. This means that people had the choice to buy a large "Super Phone" as you call it and they chose the iPhone.

I don't really think Apple has to wake up here. Any MBA could look at Apple's numbers are realize they are on the correct path for financial success.

 

[Vegastouch]

At has nothing to do with business model and more do with usage. 4.8" is too large of a phone to operate comfortably with one hand.

USB 3.0 came to the Macs when it was included in Ivy Bridge for free.


At this point Galaxy lovers are somehow expecting us iPhone owners to ignore reality which is the iPhone outsells the GS3 by a large margin. This means that people had the choice to buy a large "Super Phone" as you call it and they chose the iPhone.

I don't really think Apple has to wake up here. Any MBA could look at Apple's numbers are realize they are on the correct path for financial success.

I dont mind you saying that and it still could be true but can we wait till the new iPhone comes out to claim that. Many of those 10 million +(as of last month) GS3's that were sold were many people that got tired of Apple dragging their ass and not giving then what they want.
That being said, i expect the new iPhone to sell very well but will it be as well as it has before? I guess we shall see when you get the official specs and looks of it.

 

[Mac.World]

Stock LED's ive figured out that blue is email(i use the stock mail client w/ Yahoo). Not sure why that one is the only one that blinks though....hmmm. Red i think is a text...or a tweet...perhaps a GMail...lol.

Anyways, i dont think it will take the carriers long to get it out. T-Mobile got out ICS for the S2 pretty fast and since the GS3 is still new, it would benefit them to get JB out quickly so they can sell more of them. Especially if they do it by the time the new iPhone is going to come out.

Light flow updated just now! Works on non rooted American S3's. Happy days for lots of people.

 

[Sensamic]

I dont mind you saying that and it still could be true but can we wait till the new iPhone comes out to claim that. Many of those 10 million +(as of last month) GS3's that were sold were many people that got tired of Apple dragging their ass and not giving then what they want.
That being said, i expect the new iPhone to sell very well but will it be as well as it has before? I guess we shall see when you get the official specs and looks of it.

It will sell even more than previous iPhones. Why?

Because it will have a 0.5 bigger screen Many iPhone users have been demanding a bigger screen for a long time. That moment has finally arrived for them, so probably the iPhone 5 will sell much more than previous models.

Also it will have 4G.

This for the average user are great new features, but for those of us who know more about smartphones and mobile OS it's not enough, specially when you look at the competition.

Again: the iPhone is for the average user. Power users won't buy it, but those are a minority really.

 

[Wrathwitch]

Stock LED's ive figured out that blue is email(i use the stock mail client w/ Yahoo). Not sure why that one is the only one that blinks though....hmmm. Red i think is a text...or a tweet...perhaps a GMail...lol.

Anyways, i dont think it will take the carriers long to get it out. T-Mobile got out ICS for the S2 pretty fast and since the GS3 is still new, it would benefit them to get JB out quickly so they can sell more of them. Especially if they do it by the time the new iPhone is going to come out.

Red seems to be for social media but the flashing or steady red freaked me out so I turned those ones off!

Red=stranger danger!

 

[Vegastouch]

Light flow updated just now! Works on non rooted American S3's. Happy days for lots of people.

Cool, we'll see if it works properly now.

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Red seems to be for social media but the flashing or steady red freaked me out so I turned those ones off!

Red=stranger danger!

The only one that flashed for me was the blue.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

elegance

So how do these rabid Android users quantify "elegance" when making their comparison of iPhone to their "less magical" Android device devoid of unicorns and pixie dust?

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iOS 5 has the best notifications.

Haha, you mean the notifications that Apple pretty much just made an exact copy of from Android?

Regardless, the new notifications in Jelly Bean are much improved over iOS and previous Android releases but i'm sure Apple will "invent" them soon for iOS.

 

[NJRonbo]

Boy

I'm waiting for one of these threads to actually have some meat to it. It's the same template

Step 1

Start out by creating faux credibility to claiming how long you've owned an iPhone or other Apple product or how many devices.

Step 2

Trot out the anecdotes about how competitor x product is sweeping through friends. For added effect admit that you are envious or beginning to sway yourself.

Step 3

Toss out unsubstantiated rhetoric about features and fail to provide any context about how this is or isn't going to translate to the larger populace

Step 4

Proclaim you have no intention of creating a battle or a flamefest


There you have it. Forum 101

Absolutely Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Go look at my other posts here. I don't troll.

My post was legitimate and I do have concerns over which phone to buy.

...of course trying to defend myself to people like you is probably a waste of my time.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Absolutely Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Go look at my other posts here. I don't troll.

My post was legitimate and I do have concerns over which phone to buy.

...of course trying to defend myself to people like you is probably a waste of my time.

No I felt your post was better than the average but there's a lot of blind devotion on both sides.

I don't necessarily think iPhones are right for everyone either.

 

[aznguyen316]

Really liking my S3. Traded from a 4S. LTE is probably one of the bigger reasons why but I like messing around with things and android is perfect for that. jailbreak is great for it too, but still lacks in that department. The large screen is amazing too. I'm using isyncr to sync my itunes playcounts/ratings so no problems there. And the phone is damn fast.

I had a Droid Eris before my 4S so I've use Android for a bit. iOS is smoother and is easier to use IMO, but ICS isn't bad.. I can't wait for jelly bean update. OR for CM10 to come out of alpha.

 

[Mac.World]

4.8" is too large of a phone to operate comfortably with one hand.

You should quantify that statement with a "in my opinion" at the end. Because it isn't too big for me. Besides, is there some rule requiring one hand for all smartphones? Or is this just a standard rebuttal for iphone users to compensate for their little screens and phones?

At this point Galaxy lovers are somehow expecting us iPhone owners to ignore reality which is the iPhone outsells the GS3 by a large margin. This means that people had the choice to buy a large "Super Phone" as you call it and they chose the iPhone.

Incorrect. This means those that wanted a phone made by Apple had no choice. While those that wanted a Samsung had plenty. And Samsung alone sold twice the number of phones Apple did. And again, this is just another 'standard' iphone lover rebuttal. And it means nothing to users. Just like Samsung selling twice as many phones as Apple means nothing to the average user.

don't really think Apple has to wake up here. Any MBA could look at Apple's numbers are realize they are on the correct path for financial success.

As is Samsung. Difference is people are actually leaving their iphones for better devices. Up until recently, there wasn't a better phone on the market to the iphone. But Apple's lack of innovation, reusing the same design year after year, locking down the OS even further and keeping iOS the same dull row of icons for 5 years is wearing thin. Samsung and Google are the ones coming up with new fresh ideas. Apple is just copying them since ios5. Kinda sad really.

 

[Sdahe]

You can sync your S3 with Google just like you did with iCloud. I have my calendar and contacts sync with my iMac using Google. It's very simple to do.

I also changed my iphone 4s for a galaxy S3 and Im not coming back

 

[Technarchy]

I don't find anything remotely tempting about the GS3 or any orher android phone.

I abanonded android for a several reasons, and I see zero reasons to return.

 

[Mac.World]

I don't find anything remotely tempting about the GS3 or any orher android phone.

I abanonded android for a several reasons, and I see zero reasons to return.

Why we know. Enjoy your sandbox.

 

[NJRonbo]

I know I can sync my contacts and calendar from my Mac to the GS3.

Can I do push mail? I don't use my MAC email account. I have a regular non-GMAIL POP account with my own domain.

Can I set it up so whatever I delete on my GS3 also deletes on my iMac and Macbook Pro?

 

[zbarvian]

Android users are stupid because they want laggy, ugly, complicated phones. iOS users are stupid because they want simple, weak toys of phones.

Now move on people.

 

[nuckinfutz]

You should quantify that statement with a "in my opinion" at the end. Because it isn't too big for me. Besides, is there some rule requiring one hand for all smartphones? Or is this just a standard rebuttal for iphone users to compensate for their little screens and phones?


Incorrect. This means those that wanted a phone made by Apple had no choice. While those that wanted a Samsung had plenty. And Samsung alone sold twice the number of phones Apple did. And again, this is just another 'standard' iphone lover rebuttal. And it means nothing to users. Just like Samsung selling twice as many phones as Apple means nothing to the average user.


As is Samsung. Difference is people are actually leaving their iphones for better devices. Up until recently, there wasn't a better phone on the market to the iphone. But Apple's lack of innovation, reusing the same design year after year, locking down the OS even further and keeping iOS the same dull row of icons for 5 years is wearing thin. Samsung and Google are the ones coming up with new fresh ideas. Apple is just copying them since ios5. Kinda sad really.

No..I know few people with hands large enough to span the lower left to the upper right corners of the screen on a 4.8" screens but my use of the word "comfortably" can mean different things to different people.

Samsung has indeed sold twice as many phones as Apple but they did not sell the Galaxy models in any numbers close to what the iPhone sold in.

Haven't seen many people leaving the iPhone for "better" phones. The numbers of iPhones sold goes up each quarter. While Apple's marketshare may not be growing as fast as Android's they don't play in the really cheap market so that's understandable.

I've received very little complaint in person about the "boring" rows of icons. That's not really where the battle is for your typical consumer. It's mainly about the simple things ....protecting their data (iCloud backup) and making their data accessible in more places (icloud.com) and providing timely information (Siri)

All this chatter about "people are leaving for huge ass Android mega super giga phones" is a fantasy world concocted by disgruntled geeks online.

 

[Mac.World]

No..I know few people with hands large enough to span the lower left to the upper right corners of the screen on a 4.8" screens but my use of the word "comfortably" can mean different things to different people.

Samsung has indeed sold twice as many phones as Apple but they did not sell the Galaxy models in any numbers close to what the iPhone sold in.

Haven't seen many people leaving the iPhone for "better" phones. The numbers of iPhones sold goes up each quarter. While Apple's marketshare may not be growing as fast as Android's they don't play in the really cheap market so that's understandable.

I've received very little complaint in person about the "boring" rows of icons. That's not really where the battle is for your typical consumer. It's mainly about the simple things ....protecting their data (iCloud backup) and making their data accessible in more places (icloud.com) and providing timely information (Siri)

All this chatter about "people are leaving for huge ass Android mega super giga phones" is a fantasy world concocted by disgruntled geeks online.

You may want to look beyond your walled garden. Here's some data from all 4 main US carriers that you won't like (only 2 day old data. Funny though, this data doesn't appear to be concocted by disgruntled online geeks?) Samsung is gonna have a huge quarter, while the iphone will be lucky to sell 20 million iphones (worldwide). To be fair, the quarter before a new iPhone release is usually less than the quarter before it, but considering the lack of sales in Q2 for the iphone, this is definitely bad news for the what is the bread and butter of Apple. (BTW, not sure what you were taught in school, but last time I checked iphone sales have gone down each quarter in 2012 from 37 million in Q1 to 35 million in Q2 to 26 million in Q3. (Source: http://www.statista.com/statistics/12743/worldwide-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/ Facts would indicate your statement about iphone sales going up each quarter as not truthful.)

Link: http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2012/08/20/baird-smartphone-check-galaxy-s-iii-top-pick-sprints-iphone-price-stands-alone-android-tops-sales/

And more data.

Link: http://www.redmondpie.com/galaxy-s-iii-knocks-the-iphone-4s-off-the-top-spot-to-become-the-most-popular-smartphone-in-the-uk/

And again, stating opinion about the phone being to big as though it's a fact is just your Napoleon syndrome. I'm sorry if you aren't capable of handling a larger phone like the S3, but hundreds of millions seem to prefer phones bigger than the iPhone. And again, where did this need for using one hand come from? Conjured up by iphone lovers to defend their little phones is my guess.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

I prefer my glass and stainless steel, you can have your plastic. To each his own.

Wrapping a mobile device in glass is not very practical though is it?

Sometimes I think Apple goes for form over function a little bit too much.

 

[zbarvian]

Wrapping a mobile device in glass is not very practical though is it?

Sometimes I think Apple goes for form over function a little bit too much.

Nothing wrong with an attractive phone, though I do understand the frailty of glass on a mobile. Thankfully (knock on wood) I've yet to drop mine.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

and why iOS has such a large, continually growing market share? Seriously, don't just say "iSheep" or something stupid like that.

Really? iPhone market share of smart phones looks pretty stagnant to me...

It's certainly not something I'd pull out in a discussion of Android v. iOS to prove a point in favour of iOS.

Source:
Gartner via http://www.statista.com/statistics/...-market-share-by-operating-system-since-2009/