Galaxy S3: Apple Better Wake Up!

[Calidude]

Yeah I always find that argument a bit strange. We're humans, a finely evolved species with opposable thumbs. I don't know why people don't like using two hands to operate a device.

It would undermine their ridiculous notion of being busy, social, multitasking people.

A lot of people with big heads out there seem to think that they should have a free hand to say, walk the dog, or hold a coffee with another hand or a remote control for the tv or a keyboard for their computer. If they were presented with a larger screened phone, they would cry that it takes away from doing other things, as if they should always only have their phone in their single hand like a teenager or street hoodlum.

And a little of the Apple RDF turning their mind to mush.

 

[Technarchy]

Oh how conveniently short our memories are. I seem to remember Apple in '97, hat in hand on bended knee begging Microsoft for a $150M invested to keep solvent.

You remember wrong because you are uninformed on this subject.

Microsoft's $150 million was part of a settlement for a patent dispute that had been going on with Microsoft and Apple for a decade. The end result was a friendly, broad cross licensing agreement that extends to this day, and why Microsoft and Apple never have legal confrontations.

The discussion actually began under Gil Amelio, but it was Steve Jobs that closed the deal with amenable terms for both parties.

Now you know better.

 

[Technarchy]

Really? One of the most touted features of Mountain Lion and iOS6 was the Chinese support...

Irrelevant, and reaching.

China has a billion person population, with a GDP per capita of $5,400, compared to the USA's $48,400.

Assuming the Pareto principle, 200 million Chinese might be able to afford an iPhone while 800 million Chinese will be gobbling up junk android phones and Nokia devices, hence android having a larger market share that is not as profitable but looks really good on paper.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

You remember wrong because you are uninformed on this subject.

Microsoft's $150 million was part of a settlement for a patent dispute that had been going on with Microsoft and Apple for a decade.

You're kidding right? You're making it sounds like Apple allowed MS to pay them $150 million to settle.

At that time Apple were not even remotely in any position of power. By most accounts they were mere months (weeks?) away from bankruptcy. Microsoft could have easily stalled the negotiations and allowed Apple to go under and Apple could not have done a thing about it.

You've got it around the wrong way - Microsoft invested the money and as a result of that Apple withdrew their complaint and agreed to the cross-patent agreement. Microsoft in turn agreed to produce Office for the Mac for a minimum of 5 years.

Microsoft were at their lofty heights after their massive success with Windows 95 and Apple were in no position of power whatsoever.

I did not even think that even the most rabid Apple fan would try and turn that situation around in Apple's favour.

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Irrelevant, and reaching.

China has a billion person population, with a GDP per capita of $5,400, compared to the USA's $48,400.

Assuming the Pareto principle, 200 million Chinese might be able to afford an iPhone

Firstly, China has about 1.4 billion people and you probably have a couple of hundred million Mandarin speakers around the world outside of China which would also benefit from these features...

So you're claiming that Apple do not really care about emerging markets and then go on to state that there are 200 million potential Chinese customers of the iPhone?

Apple don't care about 200 million extra iPhone users?

 

[Wrathwitch]

I predict that:

1. In 2013, iPhone 5 sales will be shown to have been lower than expected and Apple will spin that as iPad Mini sales will make up for some of the losses.
2. The tech media will bash the iPhone's lack of size and design innovation.
3. Android and Windows Phone will increase their respective market shares.

Apple is still at it's pinnacle. I don't see your predictions coming to pass. Right now the cool aid is still very well preserved.

I don't see this prediction coming to pass.

My concern is the current lawsuit between Samsung and Apple. At least it is not one between Google/Android and Apple.

Apple has a decade to decline IF they continue to do NOTHING. However, they are still developing and innovating. Face it, it's not a bunch of chimps running that company either.

 

[Technarchy]

I did not even think that even the most rabid Apple fan would try and turn that situation around in Apple's favour.

Clearly...market capitalization past $607 billion

So you're claiming that Apple do not really care about emerging markets and then go on to state that there are 200 million potential Chinese customers of the iPhone?

If Apple were taken with win at all costs, gobble up market share by any means, they'd make contemporary junk phones by design. They don't, and android is cornerstone of the junk phone market.

When that flips, it will be a topic worth continuing.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Clearly...market capitalization past $607 billion

And how is their current market cap in any way related to my quoted text which was referring to Apple's position in 1997?

 

[matttye]

All of this back and forth market share, market value crap is laughable. Who cares about any of that other than shareholders? Average consumers sure as hell shouldn't!

 

[onthecouchagain]

All of this back and forth market share, market value crap is laughable. Who cares about any of that other than shareholders? Average consumers sure as hell shouldn't!

It's one of the few remaining talking points that iOS is "better" than Android. The list has grown significantly shorter for devoted iOS fans in the past year... Whatever floats their boat.

 

[LeandrodaFL]

I know exactly what the OP means, I may get a Galaxy S3 myself. Sure its Android, and not as good as iOS, but it still makes and receives phone calls, and thtas the most important. and another big issue is that the design of the phone is way better then the iPhone.

Appple should start releaseing multiple designs, but they wont. Their's is quite good, definetly among the best already, but perhaps no the best.

 

[zbarvian]

It isn't very difficult to predict what a hypocritical will say or do. In the intelligence hierarchy of primates these particular iphone defenders barely rate above a baby chimp.

I also predict that within 2 years Apple fans will proclaim that turn by. Turn guidance, 3d mapping, the split keyboard, the Notification Center and iMessenger was all created and developed by Apple.

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LOL. You were apparently unaware of the plethora of threads in which Apple lovers professed their disdain for all things plastic. Those same people are hiding in shame right about now.

You knew the flaw in your own argument, amigo. Use logic next time instead of trying to cover your ass with some obvious prediction and then using it to postulate some bull about my intelligence.

 

[Mac.World]

Text and watch a video at the same time?

It's one of the few remaining talking points that iOS is "better" than Android. The list has grown significantly shorter for devoted iOS fans in the past year... Whatever floats their boat.

Yep, I have been watching it happen, like a slow train wreck. But, rest assured the next iphone will breed a new generation of users proclaiming that THIS iphone is the greatest. Even if it does look absurdly out of proportion.

 

[rocknblogger]

I know I can sync my contacts and calendar from my Mac to the GS3.

Can I do push mail? I don't use my MAC email account. I have a regular non-GMAIL POP account with my own domain.

Can I set it up so whatever I delete on my GS3 also deletes on my iMac and Macbook Pro?

I also use my own domain for email. If you have your own hosting account then you should be able to set up your email as IMAP. That in fact is the difference between POP3and IMAP. You can set up an IMAP account on 5 different devices/computers and whenever you check your email on any of the devices it will automatically update the server so that when you go to another device you'll see exactly what you saw on the first device.

If you need some help setting it up you're welcome to PM me and I'll help you out. You can also check your hosting control panel for instructions on how to set up IMAP.

Just to be clear this is not device specific. You can set up IMAP on any device as long as your email provider (in your case your own hosting) gives you IMAP access.

 

[NJRonbo]

Rock,

Thank you. Appreciate that. If I go with the S3 I will indeed PM you about it.

Sad to see what this thread has turned into.

I suppose I was just inviting trouble -- but to be accused of purposely posting my question just to troll?! Can't believe some people here.

I was just hoping to get real-world comparisons between the iPhone and S3 and be able to gauge an opinion on which one to purchase.

I'll wait for the iPhone 5 announcement and make my decision then.

 

[destiny909090]

Apple

Irrelevant, and reaching.

China has a billion person population, with a GDP per capita of $5,400, compared to the USA's $48,400.

Assuming the Pareto principle, 200 million Chinese might be able to afford an iPhone while 800 million Chinese will be gobbling up junk android phones and Nokia devices, hence android having a larger market share that is not as profitable but looks really good on paper.

Apple production house is in china
Coz the cant afford USA labour...
Made in china designed by apple in ??

 

[blackhand1001]

I've looked at it and used it a bit
I am not envious at all

I still prefer my iPhone 4s

I prefer iOS
I prefer my batter life
I prefer my screen size over the S3
I prefer Apple's app store

I can see why some are enamored with the S3
And I may even get one from my work just to have one to play with
But my personal phone is and will remain an iPhone until it no longer gives me what I need

You do know that the s3 has better battery life than the 4s right?

 

[destiny909090]

Ios6

Currently when you get a call, you can either answer the call or decline it (or ignore it). In iOS 6, you get two new options. You can now swipe up on the Phone shortcut (similar to the Camera shortcut) when you get an incoming call, that allows you to either "Reply with Message" or "Remind me Later".
If you select "Reply with Message", you can use one of the preset messages such as "I'll call you later.", "I'm on my way.", "What's up?" or respond with a custom message to inform the caller than you can't talk right now.

Took Apple to add this Feature after so long....

Nokia 1100 has this feature....

 

[NJRonbo]

You do know that the s3 has better battery life than the 4s right?

Interesting you bring that up.

My friend, who is a former iPhone 4 owner, just bought the S3.

Says the display burns up battery life significantly.

However, he is also saying that he has learned that Samsung is preparing a software fix for that.

Can anyone confirm?

 

[SurferMan]

Yeah I always find that argument a bit strange. We're humans, a finely evolved species with opposable thumbs. I don't know why people don't like using two hands to operate a device.

Actually never understood that, I would say I hold my GSII 50/50 exactly like my iPhone. Either one handed when browsing or checking email or quick messages, some games etc...or two handed if typing back longer reply like to an email or browsing as well, just depends. I mean it's just plain faster.... like I'm gonna sit there one handed and type multiple sentences or emails, as a business owner owning multiple businesses that would get old real fast. A quick "ok" "I'll be there" or whatever is one thing, anything else I've never used one hand for lol.

Actually the same reason I liked my fiances Kindle Fire over my iPad2. Sure the iPad2 was the better machine, no doubt about that at all. But the Fire size was comfy to hold two handed like it was just a larger phone or say even a book and that sized let you reach everything from the browser search to keyboard typing. Doing the same with the iPad and typing/browsing was more clumsy, unless all your fingers are 10" lol.

You do know that the s3 has better battery life than the 4s right?

Heck I've got a GSII and stock it was slightly better then my 4S (both of them), but with the custom Rom now not even close, it slightly edges out my 4 which obviously was much better than the 4S in use. Our replacement 4S was better than the 1st but still can't match my 4 or GSII. Not sure why people say that either as most any of the newer phones have better life actually in use than the 4S now, been proven plenty of times. My fiance and I are both fairly heavy users and the 4S is lucky to make it through the day if that, and since both of us can be out and about like crazy it's not like we can be plugged in always.

 

[alent1234]

try pushing a baby stroller or hold the kid with one hand and use a phone with both hands

 

[Wrathwitch]

try pushing a baby stroller or hold the kid with one hand and use a phone with both hands

LOL!! I think if I am pushing a baby stroller on the sidewalk near roads etc, the last thing I would be doing is trying to walk and TEXT at the same time. You don't need 2 hands to answer a phone.

Seriously.... wtf HAS society come to when you can't be bothered to stop your stroller safely to text if you have to? Or to ensure that your infant is properly secured before you text or email?

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Interesting you bring that up.

My friend, who is a former iPhone 4 owner, just bought the S3.

Says the display burns up battery life significantly.

However, he is also saying that he has learned that Samsung is preparing a software fix for that.

Can anyone confirm?

Coming from an iP4 to a S3 myself, YES the screen does use up more juice. I generally have it at 0% indoors and if I know I am going to be outside 25-50% depending on how bright it is out.

Tis the nature of the beast and I don't believe there IS a fix for that to be honest.

 

[SurferMan]

try pushing a baby stroller or hold the kid with one hand and use a phone with both hands

Ummm been there done that. Your point? Have no problem using my GSII one handed and I have avg sized hands, if you have really small hands though to where the 3.5" screen is the limit for you then I guess I can see where it would be an issue. What I was saying was if I'm on the couch or something and say browsing I use it two handed just like I used the iPhone two handed in that case.

 

[bluedoggiant]

Boy

I'm waiting for one of these threads to actually have some meat to it. It's the same template

Step 1

Start out by creating faux credibility to claiming how long you've owned an iPhone or other Apple product or how many devices.

Step 2

Trot out the anecdotes about how competitor x product is sweeping through friends. For added effect admit that you are envious or beginning to sway yourself.

Step 3

Toss out unsubstantiated rhetoric about features and fail to provide any context about how this is or isn't going to translate to the larger populace

Step 4

Proclaim you have no intention of creating a battle or a flamefest


There you have it. Forum 101

Are you implying his post is illegitimate? You can check his post history on these forums and you can see he was clearly an iphone fan back then, I think theres an argument to be made.

 

[alent1234]

my stroller costs more than a used car i owned a long time ago. like $1200 with all the accessories including a cup holder for my starbucks.

nothing much to do while walking the kid for an hour other than killing time on my phone. even though he knows how to unclip the seat belt he never does it

 

[teltras]

My screen is always at 25%.
The battery is very good my last charge was 48 hours ago and i have 65% remaining.