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Galaxy S3: Apple Better Wake Up!
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Apple realized their mistake with glass front and back and are returning to metal and PLASTIC on the rear panel. Therefore this phone is gonna be a cheap POS, according to some posters. Oh, the irony. Of course, those opinions will now change and plastic will be acceptable OR those iphone lovers will say something like, "Well, at least the whole back piece isn't plastic. If it was, then it would look cheap." Guaranteed!
Have you guys noticed that iOS went down and Android went WAY up after Ice Cream Sandwich and the 4S came out?
Yep, its the beginning of the end for Apple unless they get back to innovating.
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If they realized their mistake I believe it would've been changed with the 4S. If the next iPhone rumors are correct then we are looking at an ostensibly rock-solid, super-sturdy unibody design with some small plastic paneling for wireless signals. And my fingers won't be touching the plastic, they'll be gripping that rigid, luxurious metal. Hah, but really, tiny plastic strips with metal > complete plastic of GS3. If you want to talk pretty, high-quality Android phones then mention the One X. I'll be the first to admit that it looks better than any iPhone I've seen and I bet it feels great. That's one fine smartphone.
You guys have to consider how many have not ever had an iPhone before. Also consider those who are still using older phones or dumb phones. I think the high end Android phones these days are taking many of those potential iPhone consumers away. IMO, this is where Apple should have it's focus on if they want to continue it's iPhone growth. Growth may have already reached it's peak or will this year.
Now concerning existing users, I don't see Apple too worried about a small percentage of iPhone users leaving for something else. I think a higher percentage would leave if Apple played the same game that Samsung and HTC are playing. Most iPhone users appreciate Apple's iOS, quality, support, and the upgrades.
Apple is still in it's own bubble and is one of the most respected brands globally. Others like Samsung and HTC have no choice but to compete more vigorously.
BTW .... I just got a red GS3 w/64micoSD recently and still have my iP4(16gb). Just based on screen size and space alone, I prefer the GS3. I really don't have a preferred OS, but if I had to choose one on the same hardware ... iOS would most likely be my choice at the moment.
Now concerning existing users, I don't see Apple too worried about a small percentage of iPhone users leaving for something else. I think a higher percentage would leave if Apple played the same game that Samsung and HTC are playing. Most iPhone users appreciate Apple's iOS, quality, support, and the upgrades.
Apple is still in it's own bubble and is one of the most respected brands globally. Others like Samsung and HTC have no choice but to compete more vigorously.
BTW .... I just got a red GS3 w/64micoSD recently and still have my iP4(16gb). Just based on screen size and space alone, I prefer the GS3. I really don't have a preferred OS, but if I had to choose one on the same hardware ... iOS would most likely be my choice at the moment.
Apple fans are hypocrites and Apple is doomed.
What other statements haven't already been beaten into the ground in this dark corner of MacRumors?
You can call it hackneyed, but the sales figures speak otherwise. It will only get worse when the long-screened iPhone comes out. Mark my words.
I'd say otherwise, but I can predict the future about as well as you can so we'll both just have to wait.
Not that it matters, but they arent going to. There are too many variations of even their own phones let alone other makers like HTC and Motorola running Android. If Apple made more than one phone of different sizes with different specs more more often than they do, they wouldnt have as big of numbers sold for one device either.
The Galaxy S3 has sold many phones in spite of many other options. In my household, we currently have 4 cell phone lines and 3 are Samsungs. Two GS3's, a Gravity?..or a Dart?(not sure)...and the other is a HTC Radar which is a Windows phone.
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LOL.
When Apple's "most disappointing phone" does greater numbers than all previous iPhones, according to Tim Cook...well...no rocket scientist is needed for the math on this one.
iPhone 5 is going to set sales records that even the 4S couldn't come close to.
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Some of you guys don't realize that the iPhone back is indeed PLASTIC with a thin layer of glass that, if you took off the panel, could easily be bent in two. Pretty much why you can replace it very cheaply. So is the front panel.
Which is very smartly done to make it feel "premium".
The good thing is that if they do go plastic on the back again, it'll make the phone much thinner and we won't have the whole antenna fiasco again because the signal will actually be able to go through.
Which is very smartly done to make it feel "premium".
The good thing is that if they do go plastic on the back again, it'll make the phone much thinner and we won't have the whole antenna fiasco again because the signal will actually be able to go through.
I don't think iPhone will ever go away but I think the iPhone v Android phenomenon that we are seeing now is almost exactly analogous to Mac v IBM/MS/Intel situation we had almost 3 decades ago:
Apple come out with a groundbreaking vertically integrated product in terms of software and hardware. Their competitors take inspiration from this and release a OS which runs across a large amount different hardware by different OEMs with licensing involving. Apple, arrogant about their success, keep their existing model and only incrementally improve their product. Market share of their competitors more flexible product increase almost exponentially whilst Apple is relegated to niche markets.
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You're conveniently ignoring the fact that the overall world wide market size for smart phones increased at a greater rate than iPhone 4S increased sales over the iPhone 4 sales...
You've also conveniently ignored the fact that the graph you produced does not break down the quarterly sales into the type of iPhone. Since Apple still sell the iPhone 4 and 3GS, those sales figures from Q1 '12 onwards represent the sales of 4S, 4, and 3GS and not just the iPhone 4S sales.
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And Apple has never, I mean never, been a company known for looking under every rock searching for a penny.
The highest rate of growth is in emerging markets; China, India, Africa and South America. These places are largely 3rd world; $5.00 Nokia and android junk phone paradises.
Apple is never going to get the same level of shanty town market penetration as android and Nokia. They are letting a 3 year old 3GS spear head their 3rd world ambitions. That's not a sign of a company concerned with market growth by any and all means.
You mean point out how the rumored iPhone design actually differs from most phones that are pure plastic-backed and reasonably praise an Android phone that uses plastic but uses it very well?
No, I don't think that's what Mac.World said "people like him" would do. It's not an all or nothing issue like you and Mac.World are claiming it to be. Nobody is saying that simply using plastic makes a phone feel cheap and flimsy! The HTC One X is an absolutely fantastic device inside and out, and I give major props to HTC for putting special attention towards refining the external build quality of the phone. They proved that plastic doesn't always mean cheap. And dare I even bring up the Lumia 800 and 900? Talk about stunning...
Still, that doesn't mean Apple gets a free pass. If the plastic sections of the new iPhone end up feeling cheap, then they should absolutely receive severe backlash for it. Still though, given Apple's (Jony Ive's) track record of thoughtful design, I'm optimistic that it will turn out fine.
It isn't very difficult to predict what a hypocritical will say or do. In the intelligence hierarchy of primates these particular iphone defenders barely rate above a baby chimp.
I also predict that within 2 years Apple fans will proclaim that turn by. Turn guidance, 3d mapping, the split keyboard, the Notification Center and iMessenger was all created and developed by Apple.
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LOL. You were apparently unaware of the plethora of threads in which Apple lovers professed their disdain for all things plastic. Those same people are hiding in shame right about now.
Really? One of the most touted features of Mountain Lion and iOS6 was the Chinese support...
It's exactly that kind of hubris and inflexibility which contributed to Apple's close call with death previously.
They need to continue to innovate.
Oh how conveniently short our memories are. I seem to remember Apple in '97, hat in hand on bended knee begging Microsoft for a $150M investment to keep solvent.
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I predict that:
- In 2013, iPhone 5 sales will be shown to have been lower than expected and Apple will spin that as iPad Mini sales will make up for some of the losses.
- The tech media will bash the iPhone's lack of size and design innovation.
- Android and Windows Phone will increase their respective market shares.
Yeah I always find that argument a bit strange. We're humans, a finely evolved species with opposable thumbs. I don't know why people don't like using two hands to operate a device.