You still haven't answered my question. Why is it that everyone here complains about a few niche people that appreciate premium feel and craftsmanship. They say these people are elitists. Yet at the same time they want their phones in pristine condition and want to upgrade yearly.
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Galaxy S4 with "cheap, plastic" back cover
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You still haven't answered my question. Why is it that everyone here complains about a few niche people that appreciate premium feel and craftsmanship. They say these people are elitists. Yet at the same time they want their phones in pristine condition and want to upgrade yearly.
You didn't ask me a question. I was responding to you, not everybody and i was just saying that nobody cares about the story behind the scratches on your phone when you go to resell it.
I've never seen the term elitist used in here. Better ask somebody else.
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iPhone 5C -- the new "cheap, plastic" iPhone -- is strongly rumored to replace the iPhone 5 entirely (while the iPhone 5S or 6 will be the higher end).
Brace yourselves, embracement of plastic is coming.
So don't worry Samsung-devotees.
Brace yourselves, embracement of plastic is coming.
So don't worry Samsung-devotees.
iPhone 5C -- the new "cheap, plastic" iPhone -- is strongly rumored to replace the iPhone 5 entirely (while the iPhone 5S or 6 will be the higher end).
Brace yourselves, embracement of plastic is coming.
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So don't worry Samsung-devotees.
Im not worried. I ve no desire to have an iPhone and iOS or having to use iTunes again.
I really don't get the iTunes hatred on this forum. Compared to many other programmes to manage music / audio / video / podcast content, especially on the mac - its still IMHO one of the best.
On my macs it has always been fast, stable and reliable.
On PC side of things I have little experience of it, but compared to the tripe of Real player 16 plus, windows media player and others - even if it was scraping the barrel - it would still be better than many other crappy, resource hungry, slow programmes on PC.
Even if you don't use iTunes Store for purchasing your content, it's still a decent robust media manager on the mac, and iTunes Match is still one of the best music matching services and YES I do have google play music to compare it to, and iTunes music match does a better job.
So yeah, why all this iTunes hatred?
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Average price here for an unsubsidised S4 handset is €599 which is $795.89 US Dollar.
The HTC One is about €549-589 and the BBZ10 is €549-599 - so they are all much of a muchness here, and all close to $800 USD.
On my macs it has always been fast, stable and reliable.
On PC side of things I have little experience of it, but compared to the tripe of Real player 16 plus, windows media player and others - even if it was scraping the barrel - it would still be better than many other crappy, resource hungry, slow programmes on PC.
Even if you don't use iTunes Store for purchasing your content, it's still a decent robust media manager on the mac, and iTunes Match is still one of the best music matching services and YES I do have google play music to compare it to, and iTunes music match does a better job.
So yeah, why all this iTunes hatred?
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Average price here for an unsubsidised S4 handset is €599 which is $795.89 US Dollar.
The HTC One is about €549-589 and the BBZ10 is €549-599 - so they are all much of a muchness here, and all close to $800 USD.
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I concur, I've used iTunes via my Macs for years. While some versions have been better than others, overall I think Apples done a very good job. Even though I also use Windows laptops, I've never put iTunes on one.
As far as the haters, that comes from those who either don't take the time to learn it, or those who have an abundance of unresolved anger.
As far as the haters, that comes from those who either don't take the time to learn it, or those who have an abundance of unresolved anger.
iPhone 5C -- the new "cheap, plastic" iPhone -- is strongly rumored to replace the iPhone 5 entirely (while the iPhone 5S or 6 will be the higher end).
Brace yourselves, embracement of plastic is coming.
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So don't worry Samsung-devotees.
Nah we all know Apple's plastic is special and different from Samsung's plastic. Apple has magic premium plastic. All the other plastic used on non-Apple products is the bad type of plastic. Didn't you get the memo?
Nah we all know Apple's plastic is special and different from Samsung's plastic. Apple has magic premium plastic. All the other plastic used on non-Apple products is the bad type of plastic. Didn't you get the memo?
Haven't heard anyone complaining about the polycarbonate MacBook and the plastic-backed iPhone 3G/3GS. But all hell breaks loose if Samsung uses plastics of any kind.
Touché.
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iTunes itself is fine as a music player, but the fact that you're so tied to it with iOS products is what's cumbersome and annoying.
In all honesty though, I have to say that the plastic iPhone 3G (my last before switching to a Note 2) feels far more reliable and durable than either the S3, S4 or Note 2. Sure, it's also made of plastic. But Apple used the material in quite a different way. The casing is clearly thicker and doesn't flex (like the back of my Note 2 does quite a bit), and let's not forget that the 3G/3GS also have a metal rim + metal buttons.
The hardest thing for me to overcome when I switched to Android and the Note 2 was how flimsy the build felt of the actual phone felt. I'm OK with it now and with a case on it's not a huge deal for me anymore, but I wouldn't mind the plastic being a tad sturdier + having a metal rim and buttons. Just for the quality feel.
So yeah, we can rip on Apple for going plastic now, but I'm pretty sure the cheapo i5 will actually feel better in the hand than any of Samsung's current phones. Sammy may have one up on the OS, screen size, and variation, but personally I still put Apple (and HTC) in the first place when it comes to the premium/quality/reliable feel of a device.
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute
No worries mate. Though I would certainly appreciate excellent craftsmanship and quality materials.Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute
There's a clip on YouTube that demonstrates the Galaxy backplate being quite literally bent double without breaking or leaving any ill effects. Now do that with an iPhone.
iPhone 5C -- the new "cheap, plastic" iPhone -- is strongly rumored to replace the iPhone 5 entirely (while the iPhone 5S or 6 will be the higher end).
Brace yourselves, embracement of plastic is coming.
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So don't worry Samsung-devotees.
Except plastic will be used for low-end iPhones, not in the new flagship model, as Samsung does for the S and Note series. Don't let that stop your endless crusade of trying to portray all iPhone users as being hypocrites though.
Reanimation, this is sounding like an excuse though. Basically, plastic is now acceptable, but the caveat will be that Apple only uses it on the 'cheaper' model? Or that Apple plastic will somehow 'feel' more premium?
Prior to this year, the Apple fans said plastic 'would never' happen, because Apple only builds premium products.
Funny how fast that tune has changed. Seems to be a recurring theme though. Remember how adamant Apple fans were that 'specs' didn't matter prior to the iPhone 5? Then when the benchmarks came out and the iPhone was fast, with good benchmarks, specs all of a sudden were important. Now that Apple is way behind the spec curve, specs don't matter again.
Sorry ReAnimation, but hypocritical is synonymous with many Apple fans on this board. Not saying you are, or that 'all' fans are, but I have seen its on this board numerous times. Simply put, aluminum is a cheap metal, much like making plastic is cheap to manufacture, but both offer merits, particularly company profits where plastic is used, and that is why Apple is now using both.
My first iPhone was the 4S, and truth be told I think I've used iTunes to manage my iPhone maybe 5 or 6 times. I manage all my content either on the iPhone directly or with iCloud.
I'm indifferent to iTunes but I don't see why some in club android have to impression that the iPhone is reliant on iTunes to function when I know for a fact you can live without using iTunes on PC at all
Apple tends to operate in a rather inconsistent basis when one observes them over time. I believe those who still think the iPhone is wholly dependent on iTunes are remembering the days when that was true. Apple rested on their laurels, got smug about the power they have over the ecosystem, and kept its customers using a USB / 30 pin cable to sync, update, and backup their iPhone.
The concept and practice of OTA was unavailable in the Apple kingdom till King Steve finally waved his magic wand and allowed it.
Fast forward to today where iTunes is no longer a mandatory part of iPhone use, there's a big difference. Personally I stopped using iTunes as my main resource for content as soon as that was possible.
From the OP: My S4 was on for about 18 hours yesterday and the battery was at 6%. I wanted to make a long call so I pulled the back off and slapped in another battery and carried on. I really like that feature. It might have taken me 10 seconds.
So many people overlook (accidentally or intentionally, who knows) that the plastic removable cover is more for function than form.
In addition to battery swapping, a removable cover made of a flexible material is much better for absorbing shock and preventing damage to the rest of the phone's internals.
Never said it was bad or good, just thought it was funny how he compared how a flexible plastic back could be bent and rebound compared to a machined aluminum frame.
I do wish Samsung would go more towards the active s style, I really liked that over their traditional glossy plastic.
I'd love that too. An S4 Active type outer build, but with capacitive back and menu buttons, would be great.
I have repaired tons of 3G and 3GS the plastic seemed to be a very cheap plastic that was brittle and prone to cracking. I've replaced shells for friends who baby the hell out of their phones witgh huge gawdy cases and boxes. iPhones have some great build qualities but Apple's plastics have always been kinda of shoddy. Even in their early laptops.
Now granted my experience is limited to repairing phones so I would see tons of problems but to me it just seems the plastic was a cut corner.