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Galaxy S5 sold 40 percent fewer units than Samsung predicted: WSJ
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You know I'd laugh at this but the sad part is I don't doubt that you actually believe it.
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There are people who actually think all Apple does is put other people's hardware in pretty boxes and sell it for a huge premium. So this doesn't surprise me at all.
Whole bunch of Safari lag/hang videos like mine on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/Qlc6JF3W3iI
Bunch of Safari tab reloads too with just Safari running with two tabs and nothing else:
http://youtu.be/dJNS3ucSak4
For comparison, my old 2012 Note II can have two browsers open in split screen with multiple tabs and it scrolls faster.
http://youtu.be/Qlc6JF3W3iI
Bunch of Safari tab reloads too with just Safari running with two tabs and nothing else:
http://youtu.be/dJNS3ucSak4
For comparison, my old 2012 Note II can have two browsers open in split screen with multiple tabs and it scrolls faster.
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No idea what your talking about. There is a link in the bgr article that will take you to their source, Reuters.
Go back and see where you went wrong instead of falsely accusing members of fabricating metrics for jollies like some of the other posters in this thread:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9830BM20130904?irpc=932
"Shares in Asia's most valuable technology firm, which depends on mobile devices for two-thirds of its profit, have fallen 13 percent over the past three months. That compares with a 3 percent drop in the domestic stock market."
Here is the author of the article if you want to discuss veracities:
Reporting by Miyoung Kim
Editing by Ryan Woo
Mobile division of Samsung made up 2/3 (66%) of Samsung profits in Q3 2003. Since their mobile division's profit has been declining, its now around 2/5 (43%) of total profit as in Q3 2014.
http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsams...se/downloads/2012/20141030_conference_eng.pdf
Thank you. Somehow I think it gets lost that the Electronics division is all there is to Samsung or that the Galaxy line up makes up the lions share of their phone sales.
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Is this post actually serious or is this just sarcasm and joking? I hope it is because I can't see a single suggestion here that represents reality.
They sell way more phones overall vs Apple in a market that is flooded with competitors using the same OS. Sounds to me like they are doing just fine in terms of market share. Apple and iOS is losing market share while they continue to sell more phones....hmmm so they are doing well against themselves year over year, but against the market as a whole they are not. They are also not where Samsung is losing market share too. It's clear Sammy is up against the likes of all the others, especially China. Apple is up against everyone.
He said the note 2 was way better than the iPhone. My response was then it should be outselling the iPhone hand over fist.
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Wow so why isn't the note 2 or 3 or 4 outselling the iPhone like crazy? Samsung must be doing something wrong to have such a superior phone and not sell
And I think the Note 3 and Note 4 are better than the current iPhones, but why aren't they outselling it? Perhaps it's because there's 1,234 different choices that compete with it outside the likes of the iPhone. Not just in terms of competitive features but yes, that and price.
Again, it's pointless to argue Model vs Model when it's clear the Samsung lead is being eroded by the likes of everyone but Apple. They are clearly just a bit of that erosion. The market share growth and phone sales numbers clearly show that.
They are doing well against their own numbers and creating growth against previous periods but overall Apple and iOS is being outpaced by the pack of others, not just the likes of Samsung.
Hey, if it makes a 42 page thread of happiness to look at the kind of phone sales have a bad time at it, that's fine. Me, if I'm an Apple fan for the sake of product loving, I'd be more focused on the reality of how they are doing in the market as a whole. Personally, I don't care as I have no need for a love towards just Samsung. I could go LG, Sony, or China Brands if I care to. They all use Android. Most all do more than just make electronics and phones too.
They aren't doing anything wrong. There just happen to be tons of choices, many of which cost less and offer just as much. Put iOS out there on other platforms and the iPhone hardware would likely see the exact same outcome.
Imagine what would happen to Apple Branded device sales if you put iOS on platforms that are available for $100-$300. Moto X, Sony, LG, and a few low end China Brands.....
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But this thread is about Samsung and their faltering s5 sales.
Why are you trying to derail this thread into an iOS vs android?
I can't find much data of Samsung Global probably because they treated their child company independently. Latest data is from 2012 where Samsung Electronics accounted 71% of Samsung Global Revenue (not profit).
their breath of supply is what they should leverage IMO. If I were leading Samsung on the mobile front I would be looking at what Apple has that they don't have and figure it out. It's the ecosystem. Apple is a master at tying a phone, tablet, soon a watch and a PC together. They leverage that and wrap their apps around them all. The downside for Apple is they don't dominate any of those markets. Their OS is just doesn't have the adoption they need to make it all really come to life.
Samsung doesn't have that either but they stand a good chance to leverage it with the big boy on the block - Microsoft, to help tie everything together. Microsoft would then do the same and perhaps ride along side for a while offering both a Windows platform an an Android Platform that would both offer better integration.
What's funny to me is no one at Microsoft is thinking this way. It's like they are lost. WTF is with them? They also stand a chance to do this but why aren't they?
That is very different to Samsung's own branded models and how well they sell though. There are lots of companies out there that supply ancillaries to others but sales are not necessarily determined by components supplied rather than units sold. I don't think anybody here is suggesting Samsung the company is in trouble, but we have a figure that their mobile division has suffered a set back in sales for 2014.
How many car companies make every single component in their cars rather than sharing systems and suppliers? None of the household brands that's for sure. Most Diesel Fords, Renaults, Seats, Citroens etc run Peugeot engines because it's a cheaper way of developing a product. The electronics industry is no different and it means the likes of Apple can outsource for quality components and maximise profits.
It's like losing 40% sales isn't a big deal even though Samsung must think so to reorganize their head of mobile division.
Worst case scenario is Samsung spins off/sells/shutters their mobile division.
Just like Nokia, Motorola, Ericsson, blackberry, and palm.
I think most people forget Apple has regarded itself as a software company first. The hardware is a means to an end.
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