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Is it a big battery drainer? Do you have to sign up with the same macrumors login? Or is it separate and secure? Aka macrumors won't know your tapatalk log in?
It's a universal forum App.
You can sign up with Tapatalk and they will remember the forum accounts you log into and set it up as soon as you log in (you obviously have to do sign into the forums your into once) or you can skip tapatalk account and just manually sign up / sign in to your existing accounts.
It's not a battery drainer, it's probably the most widely used Forum browser on both Android / iOS / Windows Mobile etc..
I don't think I've viewed this forum in anything other than tapatalk for a few years now. I used it back when I had a Samsung S3 and a HTC Incredible S but I wasn't a member here in those days. It's a good app and worth the money if you still have to pay for it.
I don't think you got my point. I did not bring up anyones experiences. Nor did i negate anyones experiences.
My point was Samsung is adding 4GB of ram....not to correct anything. The whole flagship mobile space is moving to 4GB of ram in their flagship phones. Feck....even Motorola is rumored to be adding 4GB of ram in the Moto x 2015. Are they correcting anything?
Did you see the link about the 10 mobile phones with 4GB of ram now and to be released soon? 4GB is going to be the norm for flagship phones.
Stop being so defensive
For whatever reason, people are extra critical of anything Samsung does. They could put in 8 GB of RAM and they'll find a negative spin. The fact that people here feel Samsung should drop prices when they are offering more expensive hardware is ridiculous. We all like cheaper prices, but I haven't seen anyone here say Apple should be dropping their prices. The reason being, Apple is making lots of money, no need to adjust prices. Really? How should that stop anyone from having a logical assessment of what price you're paying for that less expensive hardware. Oh I forgot it's that magical user experience that so priceless compared to that completely unusable experience on the Note 4 and GS6/edge. What was I thinking?
So you're quoting a post which was referencing the issue of ram management on the S6/S6e which was raised to say that it's looking like ram management won't be getting a fix anytime soon in existing devices if Samsung have opted for 4gb in the S6 e+ which runs same software and has same cpu as existing S6e.
This is absolutely nothing to do with Apple, nothing to do with magical experiences as you framed it. Nothing to do with cost or pricing.
They only person turning things into the cliched fanboyesque argument is yourself by using tired cliches and old rhetoric.
However if you want to talk cost and pricing the market dictates pricing. The S6/S6e haven't sold as well as expected, Samsung's mobile profits have fallen again.
It is Samsung who are reducing pricing because it feels it needs to. So if Samsung feels it needs to - and it hasn't sold as well as expected, then it clearly was overpriced in what is an aggressive and competitive android market.
It's has nothing to do with Apple, or what Apple buyers are paying. Apple buyers are not buying Android phones so how can then they ever be the governors of market pricing of an android handset? (They can not). It's to do with the mass plethora of android alternatives which retail cheaper and offer similar experience and feature sets. End of.
Samsung's chief competition is not Apple. It's the myriad of other Android handsets / OEM's especially in developing markets.
Even in developed markets the competition is beginning to strain Samsung's pricing model. Person A wants to buy a 2015 5.7" phablet running android. They can buy a Note 5 32gb - QHD - 16mp camera - 4gb ram for what will likely be $700 off contract or Moto X Style 16gb with MicroSD, QHD - 21mp camera - 3gb ram for $399. 75% less than the expected Note 5 entry pricing. Even if the Note 5 is a better device overall many will see a device priced nearly twice as much and be turned away by that. That's where Samsung is struggling to garner ever increasing sales and is indeed seeing a reduction. The comparative 'worth' of Android handsets made by competitors offering stark pricing difference.
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It is funny to watch all the samsung hate in this thread and the Note 5 thread. I have seen people complain that the Note 5 doesn't have a SD Card or removable battery....."so I'm getting an iphone!" Yet the iphone doesn't have those things either. Apple gets a pass on their requirements for a new phone. Or they bring up the stock feel of Moto phones. Yet give them a pass on their horrible cameras and overall bad user experience and plastic build material. How are Motos sales compared to the rest of the Android OEMs? People don't want stock look and feel they want features that work.
People hold Samsung to a different set of standards then they do other OEMs. Everyone here complained about plastic Samsung phones....but then when Samsung upgrades to the best hardware of all the rest of the Android OEMs, still these same people complain and complain. It is really funny to watch them........yet they keep buying Samsung phones and keep complaining about them.
Don't like TW....don't buy a Samsung phone. Don't like Samsung's memory mangement......don't buy a Samsung phone.
It pretty simple really. Just stop complaining like a bunch of old women with nothing better to do.
People may opt to go to iPhone because if devices are priced the same and the thing that previously made them prefer the Note series such as SD Card slot, big screen, removable battery - are no longer differentiators. With that in mind they may then decide that they'll give the iPhone a try instead. It is nothing to do with giving 'Apple' a free pass. That's a rather juvenile and shallow way of looking at it.
Likewise people are holding Samsung to higher standard than likes of Moto because they are charging nearly double the price in the same competitive android market. Because of that they should be held in that case to a higher standard.
Having a go at Samsung for horrendous ram management is not a bad thing - it's only by complaining about the bad things and reacting with both our wallets and as a community of users so that the media picks up on it - that will spur these manufacturers to address the flaws. Rather than just let complacency set in.
Being all blaise and telling people to just be quiet is actually the very epitome of giving a company a 'free pass' as you call it.
MRU.....lets keep it professional and keep the personal out of it. No personal attacks like in the past when I disagreed with you.
It has everything to do with giving Apple or other OEMs a pass. You're just not objective about Samsung anymore.
Samsung has a higher sales point because they have a better product. Moto lives in the budget mobile phone space. Samsung is in the flagship space. Different categories and different pricing models.
Look at some of the overseas OEMs they offer an even better product and pricing than Moto does.
That is hurting Samsung more than any other competition.
The mobile phone space is getting very saturated. The products and tech advances are reaching levels that even some of the mid range phones can do everything consumer's could ask of them.
It is one thing to bring up a product's shortcomings. It is another to complain about something over and over again and still buy the product.
You have a habit of making the wrong assumptions from reading my posts. I NEVER said be quiet about anything. I said if you don't like certain products.......don't buy them. Don't buy them to just complain about them repeatedly. That makes no sense.
Hey mru sorry for jumping around threads lol I should just pm you but I have some suggestions.
Try factory odining your edge,not a phone reset from the settings options but a full factory image blast.
Then when booted do not update anything and don't even sign into Google.
Side load your apps from the internet and get back to me.I'm willing to bet you will get a huge boost.I'm telling you it's between Google and the messed up connection linking and your weak 3g signal strength you have.I will admit my gs6 has worse signal then my gs5 and I think your cell is boosting its modem power to try its hardest to get signal.
That and the stupid Google services always connecting is killing your phone.now on to the ram,I'm sorry the edge might have more pre installed apps and you need to debloat it with root and see if that helps.
Good luck my friend !
Try factory odining your edge,not a phone reset from the settings options but a full factory image blast.
Then when booted do not update anything and don't even sign into Google.
Side load your apps from the internet and get back to me.I'm willing to bet you will get a huge boost.I'm telling you it's between Google and the messed up connection linking and your weak 3g signal strength you have.I will admit my gs6 has worse signal then my gs5 and I think your cell is boosting its modem power to try its hardest to get signal.
That and the stupid Google services always connecting is killing your phone.now on to the ram,I'm sorry the edge might have more pre installed apps and you need to debloat it with root and see if that helps.
Good luck my friend !
The point being they may have a better product than the competition but people are clearly choosing to not buy them as they once did. No one is says no they don't make a better phone, but when general consumer is presented with two devices offering similar specifications, both running android, but one is twice the price - it's easy to see why Samsung are not selling like they used to.
As for not being objective, I at least still own an S6e
and other than yes - poor ram management - I have no other gripes with it. I have stated nothing hateful or unobjective about Samsung in any of these threads. Indeed it's because of using so many other devices I see the impact of something like its software / ram issue impacts the device in comparison to others. Does it mean it's not one of the most aesthetic pleasing devices I've owned? No, does it mean I think the camera is bad? No... But both ram and battery life have been poor compared even to the likes of the Galaxy Alpha which for me multi-tasked and had better battery life despite smaller battery. I'm not going to ignore that. That would be giving the device a free pass.
Samsung are reducing the price of the S6/S6e and look set to introduce the Note 5 & S6e + at actually slightly lower price than it introduced the S6/S6e.
They are doing so because sales have not hit targets (down 8% over the S5 which most would agree failed to meet expectations itself) and clearly the higher price in a more android competitive market means they can not charge as much for the devices as they would like. That's good for consumers.
It's not that they shouldn't charge more, it's that by charging 'a lot more' than other devices it makes other devices more attractive. Samsung flagships have never been more expensive, and when every other Android OEM is biting at their heels - it's a case that they simply can't charge as high as they clearly were hoping.
Will that work? Will you drop me a pm of the stuff you turned off and disabled
Also do you means side load things like the gapps from the likes of gappsearly? I don't have things like chrome installed or Facebook or google maps etc. I disabled a lot of the Google stuff and Samsung stuff like S-Voice etc.. Too.
Thanks Grkm
Sales aren't what they expected for Samsung. Hopefully they take notice and add the features people want and not listen to the pundits.The point being they may have a better product than the competition but people are clearly choosing to not buy them as they once did. No one is says no they don't make a better phone, but when general consumer is presented with two devices offering similar specifications, both running android, but one is twice the price - it's easy to see why Samsung are not selling like they used to.
As for not being objective, I at least still own an S6e
Does it mean it's not one of the most aesthetic pleasing devices I've owned? No, does it mean I think the camera is bad? No... But both ram and battery life have been poor compared even to the likes of the Galaxy Alpha which for me multi-tasked and had better battery life despite smaller battery. I'm not going to ignore that. That would be giving the device a free pass.
Samsung are reducing the price of the S6/S6e and look set to introduce the Note 5 & S6e + at actually slightly lower price than it introduced the S6/S6e.
They are doing so because sales have not hit targets (down 8% over the S5 which most would agree failed to meet expectations itself) and clearly the higher price in a more android competitive market means they can not charge as much for the devices as they would like. That's good for consumers.
It's not that they shouldn't charge more, it's that by charging 'a lot more' than other devices it makes other devices more attractive. Samsung flagships have never been more expensive, and when every other Android OEM is biting at their heels - it's a case that they simply can't charge as high as they clearly were hoping.
Will that work? Will you drop me a pm of the stuff you turned off and disabled
Also do you means side load things like the gapps from the likes of gappsearly? I don't have things like chrome installed or Facebook or google maps etc. I disabled a lot of the Google stuff and Samsung stuff like S-Voice etc.. Too.
Thanks Grkm
I ment like side loading your favorite apps from searching for the apk files on the web because you won't be signed into Google and you won't have a play store.this way without logging in when the phone boots up for the first time we can see if its a connection with Google issue.
When you decide to root your better off finding a stock from that has already been bebloated.they have a bunch over at xda forums
I have turned off over 50 behind the scenes Google services lol I've only used chrome this morning and here is what's in my stats.
I also have most of Samsung's touch wiz apps up and running.I'm telling you people its Google's fault not Samsung.
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Samsung needs to start making devices that actually work. Like with battery life that doesn't require charging once or twice during the day. Or ability to use more than 3 apps at once (An iPhone with 1GB of RAM can keep twice as many in memory!). Or one that doesn't overheat so badly it destroys the internal gyroscope/accelerometer and makes it impossible to use Quick Charge. Or have a decent support system that doesn't rely on you sending your phone in to be repaired for 2 weeks because purple spots start appearing on the front camera.
Samsung has a long way to go, they finally did catch up with build quality, and they've outdone themselves on design. Everything else is a 1/10 (Support, Software, Usability)
Will it allow me to continue to use Google play music and such ? I thought as soon as you sign into any one Google app it basically signs you into all of them regardless including playstore I thought.
I can side load things like Tapatalk but if I can't use things like Google Keep, PlayMusic, Google Photos & Snapseed, Google books for reading (my most used Google apps) then it likely wouldn't help me.
I can use all these on other devices without issues which is the frustration.
I do always have Google Location History turned off as I know that's always been an additional battery drainer. I likewise turn Location/GPS to power save mode.
And I have tried not enabling Google Now and enabling it but there wasn't much discernible difference for me with it off or on.
That's where the fun starts.I log in and download and update everything.sync contacts and web sites and get youtube and Google music running with pay key then I manually freeze all those services and it keeps my Google music and youtube up and running with no play store or any other Google service running.
Your 'fun' sounds a lot like 'work' to me
I will hold out and see the reviews and moreover user reviews of the S6e+ to see if the extra 1gb solves much of the ram issues - and then likely just sidegrade my 6e to the + in possibly Nov, December. Enough time to garner any issues arising after a few months in consumers hands. If it doesn't I'll just hold onto my edge ... I've had many opportunities to sell it but I do love the design and fee of the device in hand. Even battery whilst not getting iPhone 6+ or Note 3/4 battery life levels - still lasts me a day plus with wireless charging it's not a big issue. I just wish I could get same level of battery as those reporting 5/6 hours but at the end of day even with 3-3.5 SOT it's still getting me through an entire day regardless.
I also plan on selling my Nexus 6 when the X Style comes out and will sell off my iPhone 6+ when the 6s+ comes out...
So I'm still sticking to same manufacturers and basically upgrading or sidegrading one device for another.
Then I still have my Lumia 930 and Sony Z3 to cover any other potential devices that come out of the blue and take my fancy
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