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jamezr

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Such as??

Faster RAM, faster CPU/GPU, faster flash memory?? Every next gen phone does this every year...
Not just faster ram but new standard not found in other smartphones.

Not just new flash memory for the hard drive but faster flash storage standard not found in any other smartphone.

Not just a faster processor but one they did not release in their flagship line globally. One that benchmarks faster than all other major smartphones.

Curved displays not found on any other major smartphone. Then the display is Gorilla Glass 4
 

TommyA6

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Pot meet kettle...

SJ on larger than 3.5 displays


Didn't he also say they would never make a tablet larger than 7 inches?

Didn't Steve say “No one is going to buy a big phone.”

Didn't Samsung mock Apple/Apple users for their non replaceable batteries, no SD card, and no waterproofing :eek:
Companies/CEOs say whatever suits their current situation/marketing.
 

jamezr

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The thing is, the s6 edge has no extra functionality compared to the normal s6. The display is just curved :eek:
The note edge can at least show time on that side, but calling that very useful is stretching it.
Really? So making the iphone thinner every year serves what purpose?

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Didn't Samsung mock Apple/Apple users for their non replaceable batteries, no SD card, and no waterproofing :eek:
Companies/CEOs say whatever suits their current situation/marketing.

Yes they did! They all do this to an extent. Thats why I posted the reply to the post I did.....
 

Shanghaichica

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Not just faster ram but new standard not found in other smartphones.

Not just new flash memory for the hard drive but faster flash storage standard not found in any other smartphone.

Not just a faster processor but one they did not release in their flagship line globally. One that benchmarks faster than all other major smartphones.

Curved displays not found on any other major smartphone. Then the display is Gorilla Glass 4

The way they described it during the announcement was something like an SSD in a computer. If that's true it would make me stop and look at this a bit more. I wouldn't even consider a laptop without a SSD now, so to have it in a phone would be pretty amazing.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Galaxy S6

Pot meet kettle...



SJ on larger than 3.5 displays





Didn't he also say they would never make a tablet larger than 7 inches?



Didn't Steve say “No one is going to buy a big phone.”

You didn't read the last sentence of my post then?

Good on them and nice to see they are not the only manufacturer to back track like Apple did with screen size etc. :p
 

epicrayban

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The thing is, the s6 edge has no extra functionality compared to the normal s6. The display is just curved :eek:
The note edge can at least show time on that side, but calling that very useful is stretching it.

I dont' think you've done enough research.

And again, Marquis Brownie said that the best feature of the Edge is just plainly using it. It makes viewing the screen more engaging, and it makes the slide-out menu gesture in Google apps more natural.

Subtle gains, but there's no denying Samsung is pushing technology, even if it hasn't been fully realized (foldable displays) yet.

Plus, it just looks great.
 

TommyA6

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Not just faster ram but new standard not found in other smartphones.

Not just new flash memory for the hard drive but faster flash storage standard not found in any other smartphone.

Not just a faster processor but one they did not release in their flagship line globally. One that benchmarks faster than all other major smartphones.

Curved displays not found on any other major smartphone. Then the display is Gorilla Glass 4

So basically what every other smartphone gets every year.

lpddr4 is just a new gen RAM, just as ddr3 was a couple of years ago. Apple wasn't able to put it in the iPhone 6, because it wasn't ready, simple as that (It will be in 6s). Just as, for ex., the galaxy s5 didn't have a SoC made in 20 nm and the iPhone 6 did. It just depends on the release date of the particular device.

You mean, just like the new iPhones outperform their competition? It's funny;When Apple introduced A7, the first mobile 64-bit chip, that beat the competition in terms of everything, it was deemed a mere "spec bump". Now, Samsung does the same (Actually A6/A7/A8 are custom designs by Apple, while Exynos is a stock ARM implementation) and it's suddenly a revolution? :rolleyes: Please
Again, Gorilla glass 4 wasn't ready for iPhone 6 (50+ millions of them in a couple of months)
 

jamezr

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The way they described it during the announcement was something like an SSD in a computer. If that's true it would make me stop and look at this a bit more. I wouldn't even consider a laptop without a SSD now, so to have it in a phone would be pretty amazing.
It is pretty exciting to think of the new standard in flash storage. Samsung is in a unique position because they make their own products.
I think they removed the SD card just because of this. Imagine the user experience of have this blazing fast new flash storage and the UI improvements it produces. No imagine accessing videos or music on the slower SD card? It might give the impression the whole phone is slow when it is not but just the slower SD card.
Anyway just my thoughts on it. :)
 

TommyA6

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Really? So making the iphone thinner every year serves what purpose?

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Yes they did! They all do this to an extent. Thats why I posted the reply to the post I did.....

It improves aesthetics, nothing more.
 

epicrayban

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I really don't understand why there is so much negativity on the Edge, especially on Samsung trying to release it. If it's not your cup of tea, there is the S6. I think it's great that they are offering two variants. You can pick what fits for you.

As for the Edge, why are people knocking it just because it doesn't have immediate and significant gains?

Where were these same people to criticize Apple for their 64-bit architecture, which, unless I'm mistaken, isn't even making a huge difference today, never mind months ago when it was released.

What's the big fuss? This is how technology progresses and works, in small increments, where the final effect/result isn't always immediately realized. Apple is constantly praised for this when they introduce new things that aren't fully realized (Apply Pay took months to take off. So did Apple Maps).

Why can't the same credit go to Samsung?
 

zhenya

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It improves aesthetics, nothing more.

no no no. As phones become physically larger, the thinner profile unquestionably makes them easier to handle. Take your current phone, and put a case on it. That small increase in bulk from even a thin case (I use just a bumper) is significant.
 

jamezr

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So basically what every other smartphone gets every year.

lpddr4 is just a new gen RAM, just as ddr3 was a couple of years ago. Apple wasn't able to put it in the iPhone 6, because it wasn't ready, simple as that (It will be in 6s). Just as, for ex., the galaxy s5 didn't have a SoC made in 20 nm and the iPhone 6 did. It just depends on the release date of the particular device.

You mean, just like the new iPhones outperform their competition? It's funny;When Apple introduced A7, the first mobile 64-bit chip, that beat the competition in terms of everything, it was deemed a mere "spec bump". Now, Samsung does the same (Actually A6/A7/A8 are custom designs by Apple, while Exynos is a stock ARM implementation) and it's suddenly a revolution? :rolleyes: Please
Again, Gorilla glass 4 wasn't ready for iPhone 6 (50+ millions of them in a couple of months)
Really and didn't everyone brag about the iphone having the spec bumps?

Newer faster LPDDR4...not found in any other smartphone.

New SSD flash storage not found on any other smartphone.

Faster processor using smaller specs using less power

Gorilla Glass 4 with curved display.

These arent just spec bumps. Samsung set the new standard for smartphones.

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It improves aesthetics, nothing more.
No it makes it worse. What is the first thing most do to their new iphone? they put a case on it. Now its not thinner anymore.
 

TommyA6

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I dont' think you've done enough research.

And again, Marquis Brownie said that the best feature of the Edge is just plainly using it. It makes viewing the screen more engaging, and it makes the slide-out menu gesture in Google apps more natural.

Subtle gains, but there's no denying Samsung is pushing technology, even if it hasn't been fully realized (foldable displays) yet.

Plus, it just looks great.

It looks cool. That's it.
 

mclld

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Not sure why people care or seem so against it. I think the curved edges is meh, but guess what I dont have to buy it and even if I was to buy a new galaxy there is a regular version. People just like to complain though so no surprise
 

TommyA6

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Really and didn't everyone brag about the iphone having the spec bumps?

Newer faster LPDDR4...not found in any other smartphone.

New SSD flash storage not found on any other smartphone.

Faster processor using smaller specs using less power

Gorilla Glass 4 with curved display.

These arent just spec bumps. Samsung set the new standard for smartphones.


Those are all spec bumps. You can try and spin it anyway you want.
Faster SoC=spec bump
faster RAM= spec bump
faster flash=spec bump
Gorilla Glass 4=spec bump

Curved display=not a spec bump, but functionality remains to be seen
 

epicrayban

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Not sure why people care or seem so against it. I think the curved edges is meh, but guess what I dont have to buy it and even if I was to buy a new galaxy there is a regular version. People just like to complain though so no surprise

Exactly. Get the S6 then. Or if that's not your cup of tea, there's HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, OnePlus, Blu.... etc. etc.

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It looks cool. That's it.

That's it? You sure?

I think I'm going to listen to the guy who's actually used the device.

And, again, to you I say this:

I really don't understand why there is so much negativity on the Edge, especially on Samsung trying to release it. If it's not your cup of tea, there is the S6. I think it's great that they are offering two variants. You can pick what fits for you.

As for the Edge, why are people knocking it just because it doesn't have immediate and significant gains?

Where were these same people to criticize Apple for their 64-bit architecture, which, unless I'm mistaken, isn't even making a huge difference today, never mind months ago when it was released.

What's the big fuss? This is how technology progresses and works, in small increments, where the final effect/result isn't always immediately realized. Apple is constantly praised for this when they introduce new things that aren't fully realized (Apply Pay took months to take off. So did Apple Maps).

Why can't the same credit go to Samsung?


Honestly, it just sounds you're here to hate just to hate. Oh well. Not much anyone else can do about it. For others, the Edge is exciting and new.
 

spinedoc77

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No it makes it worse. What is the first thing most do to their new iphone? they put a case on it. Now its not thinner anymore.

I think thinner makes it better, fits easier in the pocket, easier to handle a larger phone. I also never put a case on my phone. Even my iPhone 6+ while I had it only had a skinomi full body protector on it, I relished feeling the nice unibody while I owned it. Even with the Apple leather case it was still pretty darn thin, and obviously thinner with a case versus something else with a case.
 

mclld

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The bumhurt is strong over the new Galaxies this is for sure, it blows my mind how people are insecure over electronic devices. I like new tech and it is weird to me how people try to downplay stuff just because it is from X company instead of Y, childish beyond belief. I am all for all these companies pushing things forward, imagine a tech world where this doesnt happen. NO THANKS! I prefer Android but I also like see Apple come out with new advances, stuff like this is only good for the end consumer because it make all these companies stay on their toes.
 

epicrayban

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The bumhurt is strong over the new Galaxies this is for sure, it blows my mind how people are insecure over electronic devices. I like new tech and it is weird to me how people try to downplay stuff just because it is from X company instead of Y, childish beyond belief. I am all for all these companies pushing things forward, imagine a tech world where this doesnt happen. NO THANKS!


This 100%. I hope Samsung going all out here will make Apple go all out with the 6S.

Competition is great.
 

TommyA6

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Exactly. Get the S6 then. Or if that's not your cup of tea, there's HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, OnePlus, Blu.... etc. etc.

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That's it? You sure?

I think I'm going to listen to the guy who's actually used the device.

And, again, to you I say this:




Honestly, it just sounds you're here to hate just to hate. Oh well. Not much anyone else can do about it. For others, the Edge is exciting and new.

Plenty of people were calling A7 a gimmick, spec bump or whatever. I see no problem in calling the galaxy s6 edge the same. Neither 64-bit nor the curved display are revolutionary.

Also, I'm not hating on s6/edge lol. I actually like the phones, unlike the s5.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Pot meet kettle...



SJ on larger than 3.5 displays





Didn't he also say they would never make a tablet larger than 7 inches?



Didn't Steve say “No one is going to buy a big phone.”


You didn't read the last sentence of my post that you quoted then? My point was they all do it and I mentioned Apple and screen size back-tracking. How did you miss that?

Good on them and nice to see they are not the only manufacturer to back track like Apple did with screen size etc. :p
 

epicrayban

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Plenty of people were calling A7 a gimmick, spec bump or whatever. I see no problem in calling the galaxy s6 edge the same. Neither 64-bit nor the curved display are revolutionary.

That's fair.

But you can at least appreciate that this is how technology works and always has, right?

Not every advancement is an immediate and gigantic gain. Even the internet itself, was a slow gain that took a few years. When it picked up steam, then it blew up and we now can't imagine our lives without it. I mean, if we wanted to, we could probably list 100s of examples of this.

Not every innovation has to be immediately revolutionary. Most advancements aren't. But they do pave the way...

Personally, I'm excited that the Edge can make slide-out menus easier to use or the screen experience more immersive. Doesn't sound too bad to me at all.

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Anyway, I think we've spent enough time getting side-tracked. Time to get back to the topic of the thread...

If the Edge is too expensive or too hard to come by (didn't Samsung say there would be shortages), I'd be pretty happy with the S6. The more I read and see videos of it, the more impressive it is.

I'm only worried about a couple of things:

1) Battery life. It's pushing A LOT of pixels. I know Samsung has rated the battery life to be longer than the iPhone, but I want to see real world usage results.

2) Touch Wiz. I've never really used TW before, and all this "lag" talk scares me. I'll have to see if the trimmed down TW really is what Samsung claims.
 

AAPLinc

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I dont' think you've done enough research.

And again, Marquis Brownie said that the best feature of the Edge is just plainly using it. It makes viewing the screen more engaging, and it makes the slide-out menu gesture in Google apps more natural.

Subtle gains, but there's no denying Samsung is pushing technology, even if it hasn't been fully realized (foldable displays) yet.

Plus, it just looks great.

Different strokes for different folks. I find the edge to look like a teenage tech toy (even though they look near identical, I think the S6 looks decent although iPhoneish) and by decent I mean better than the horrible Galaxy S iterations of the past. I feel that the curved display is something that will be cool for a year or two and then people will realize how impractical and useless it is and it'll vanish quicker than it appeared. A curved display is one of those things that they adopted because they're running out of ideas, it's a "cool" "wow" thing (to some), but really, I dont find it enticing at all. I can honestly say that a curved display would annoy me. Of course this is my opinion.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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The thing is, the s6 edge has no extra functionality compared to the normal s6. The display is just curved :eek:
The note edge can at least show time on that side, but calling that very useful is stretching it.

How is that stretching it when it not even avaiable yet?

I think the "select five favorite contacts and assign them a color" feature will be useful.

Quickly glancing through info like notifications, RSS feed, weather, and etc, without turning on the entire screen will also be useful on some occasions.

Swiping from the sides( which many reviewers noted) feels more natural than on a flat display.

And then there is how good it looks. Yes, that's a feature, especially since Apple and HTC have been getting so much praise for it and marketing that point. The edge is also one of the thinest phones. Thinner than the iPhone 6 and M9. That's a damn good design acheivement.

The edge is far from being a holy grail of inovation. But when given a choice, I'm pretty sure I'll be pleased with it. I really don't see it as a gimmick, edge will be here to stay until a newer screen tech is thrown to the public.

Depending on sales. There might not be a S7, just an S7 edge.
 
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