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The Game 161

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Galaxy S6 edge confirmed as 64GB storage as standard amount..just seen your post above oops
 

TommyA6

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You got to factor in the UFS 2.0 flash storage, and DDR4 3gb of RAM. Blogs are already posting crazy benchmark results. I'm not even a benchmark geek, but DAMN!!!!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...n-AnTuTu-and-outrageous-memory-speeds_id66653

That's the advantage of S6 being released 7 and a half months after the iPhone 6. Those thing just weren't ready (in the numbers Apple needs) when iPhone 6 was launched.

Also for the umpteenth time benchmark results =/= real usage speed.
 

Shanghaichica

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That's the advantage of S6 being released 7 and a half months after the iPhone 6. Those thing just weren't ready (in the numbers Apple needs) when iPhone 6 was launched.

Also for the umpteenth time benchmark results =/= real usage speed.

Will you say the same thing when Apple releases the 6S/6S plus 6 months after the S6?
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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That's the advantage of S6 being released 7 and a half months after the iPhone 6. Those thing just weren't ready (in the numbers Apple needs) when iPhone 6 was launched.

Yes, but I highly doubt the 6S will match that.

Also for the umpteenth time benchmark results =/= real usage speed.

Like I already said, I'm no benchmark geek. But it seems the UFS 2.0 and DDR4 3gb Ram makes a drastic difference. Samsung was serious about getting rid of lag this time around, which is most likely why they tossed out the micro SD slot.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Like I already said, I'm no benchmark geek. But it seems the UFS 2.0 and DDR4 3gb Ram makes a drastic difference. Samsung was serious about getting rid of lag this time around, which is most likely why they tossed out the micro SD slot.
Its very rare you'll see anybody ever admit their previous Galaxy devices lagged but having seen quite a few of the hands-on videos of the S6, there does appear to be slight lag or delayed response when navigating around. This could be because the units at launch were demonstration devices of course. The hardware can sound very impressive on paper and obviously needs the software to work in harmony so I hope Samsung have got this one nailed. I like the new premium appearance of the S6 and if the lag I used to encounter on my S3 is definitely a thing of the past on these modern devices then the S7 will certainly be a consideration on my next upgrade. :)
 

jamezr

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Yes, but I highly doubt the 6S will match that.



Like I already said, I'm no benchmark geek. But it seems the UFS 2.0 and DDR4 3gb Ram makes a drastic difference. Samsung was serious about getting rid of lag this time around, which is most likely why they tossed out the micro SD slot.
Samsung really stepped up to the plate with the S6 and S6E. They are truly innovating now with curved screens. They included top of the line hardware not seen in any mobile phones EVER!
I can't wait to get my hands on one.
 

cdm283813

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Would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially after reading your sig.

That's because the S6 is just that damn good. Shame that we have to wait until iPhone 7 to be impressed. Apple really needs to change their strategy when the competition does something this amazing. A S model won't cut it.
 

skratch77

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That's because the S6 is just that damn good. Shame that we have to wait until iPhone 7 to be impressed. Apple really needs to change their strategy when the competition does something this amazing. A S model won't cut it.

Apple was most likely going to use a speed mhz bump in the 6s and run a tri core in the iPhone 7 and now there like wtf Samsung we need to go quad core now
 

cdm283813

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Specs not but the iphone 6s will probably best the Galaxy s6 in benchmarks AND feel faster in real life usage.

Heck, there was no comparison between the Galaxy S5 and the iphone 6, the S5 felt sluggish out of the box.

The thing I noticed with Apple devices is that their already fast. Take the iPad Air vs iPad Air 2 performance difference. Can people really see a difference to make them spend $500 to $1000 on a few milliseconds or have more web pages open? Or see a app load up one second faster? Will it be worth it for iPhone 6 customers to upgrade if they see a small difference? Even my wife's iPhone 5 runs fine and she never complains about speed hence the reason why I'm able to upgrade my Android device every year.
But those S4, S5 customers and almost everyone else will see the difference with the S6. That might be more important than comparing a S6 to a iPhone 6. And let's not forget that the S6 Edge looks bad ass.
 

TommyA6

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Yes, but I highly doubt the 6S will match that.



Like I already said, I'm no benchmark geek. But it seems the UFS 2.0 and DDR4 3gb Ram makes a drastic difference. Samsung was serious about getting rid of lag this time around, which is most likely why they tossed out the micro SD slot.

iPhone 6s will almost certainly have LPDDR4 (2 gigs probably). Don't know about UGS 2.0, but it's also possible.
As for CPU and GPU, A9 will most likely outperform the Exyjos in S6 ( and will also be made in 14 nm).
 

cdm283813

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Apple was most likely going to use a speed mhz bump in the 6s and run a tri core in the iPhone 7 and now there like wtf Samsung we need to go quad core now

Apple needs more than cpu and ram right now. Samsung designed a better looking device that comes straight out of a Star Trek movie. It's that initial wow factor and then the spec's hits you in the face.
Even if you managed to put the exact same guts in the iPhone 6s it's not the same as the S6 Edge. Samsung has out did Apple this time around and I don't see anyone challenging the design for months. A iPhone S model will not cut it. The S6 Edge even has the potential of hurting Apple Watch sales if current iUsers are on the fence. Heck; Samsung could make a curved watch with a dual edge to match.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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iPhone 6s will almost certainly have LPDDR4 (2 gigs probably). Don't know about UGS 2.0, but it's also possible.
As for CPU and GPU, A9 will most likely outperform the Exyjos in S6 ( and will also be made in 14 nm).

Would be nice if they included both DDR4 and UFS 2.0. This would make it more likely for Apple to include better multitasking and maybe homescreen widgets.

But I would put my money on it. Also, Apple will be directly competing with the Note 5/edge due to timing of release, which will be even more of a beast.
 

cdm283813

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iPhone 6s will almost certainly have LPDDR4 (2 gigs probably). Don't know about UGS 2.0, but it's also possible.
As for CPU and GPU, A9 will most likely outperform the Exyjos in S6 ( and will also be made in 14 nm).

And that's the problem. Show me an article that says that the iPhone 6/6 plus lacks in "real world speed" . Those upgrades don't matter as much in iOS land as it does with Android. It's the same reason why iPad's are losing sales each year. On paper the iPad Air 2 is a beast against the iPad Air but compare them side by side and it's not worth the upgrade.
You could put a 100 core cpu in a iDevice and it would make little difference. Apple is not interested in bogging down iOS and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple claims that iOS 9 runs faster on old hardware.
Paper spec's means little for iDevices which is good when it comes to performance. But the question is what's next? We already now iDevices are fast; tell me something I don't know. I don't see iPhone 6 customers upgrading just for 1 extra core and 1GB of ram. Apple sold tons of those phones but how do you get repeat customers with the competition stepping up their game?
 

TommyA6

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Apple needs more than cpu and ram right now. Samsung designed a better looking device that comes straight out of a Star Trek movie. It's that initial wow factor and then the spec's hits you in the face.
Even if you managed to put the exact same guts in the iPhone 6s it's not the same as the S6 Edge. Samsung has out did Apple this time around and I don't see anyone challenging the design for months. A iPhone S model will not cut it. The S6 Edge even has the potential of hurting Apple Watch sales if current iUsers are on the fence. Heck; Samsung could make a curved watch with a dual edge to match.

I'm sorry, but this is totally subjective. I still like iPhone 6 design more than the s6 (although the s6 has become the 2nd best looking phone on the market to me). The back of the s6 with that huge camera just doesn't look nice. Apart from that the phone looks great.

Also, why would s6 edge hurt :apple:Watch sales?? That phone is a gimmick at best, as it has the same functionality as the regular s6 (Note edge can at least show time or whatever on those side and even that is stupid).

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And that's the problem. Show me an article that says that the iPhone 6/6 plus lacks in "real world speed" . Those upgrades don't matter as much in iOS land as it does with Android. It's the same reason why iPad's are losing sales each year. On paper the iPad Air 2 is a beast against the iPad Air but compare them side by side and it's not worth the upgrade.
You could put a 100 core cpu in a iDevice and it would make little difference. Apple is not interested in bogging down iOS and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple claims that iOS 9 runs faster on old hardware.
Paper spec's means little for iDevices which is good when it comes to performance. But the question is what's next? We already now iDevices are fast; tell me something I don't know. I don't see iPhone 6 customers upgrading just for 1 extra core and 1GB of ram. Apple sold tons of those phones but how do you get repeat customers with the competition stepping up their game?


Vast majority of iPhone 6 users won't be upgrading to the 6s, but the vast majority of iPhone 5/5s users will.
People don't upgrade their phones every year. Most smartphones are bought on 2 year contracts and therefore upgraded only every 2 years.

Also, Samsung Galaxy s6 isn't the only good looking Android phone around. HTC one M7/8/9 looks great and the design has been around for several years already.
 

jamezr

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I'm sorry, but this is totally subjective. I still like iPhone 6 design more than the s6 (although the s6 has become the 2nd best looking phone on the market to me). The back of the s6 with that huge camera just doesn't look nice. Apart from that the phone looks great.

Also, why would s6 edge hurt :apple:Watch sales?? That phone is a gimmick at best, as it has the same functionality as the regular s6 (Note edge can at least show time or whatever on those side and even that is stupid).

That is until Apple has an iphone with a curved display. Then its innovation huh? The fact that Samsung was the first with a curved display and is years ahead of the rest of the mobile space speaks volumes.
This type of innovation is revolutionary that can lead to bendable foldable displays.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I'm sorry, but this is totally subjective. I still like iPhone 6 design more than the s6 (although the s6 has become the 2nd best looking phone on the market to me). The back of the s6 with that huge camera just doesn't look nice. Apart from that the phone looks great.
I read that post and thought it was subjective opinion being strong armed as fact too. I like the look of both S6 variants but I still think there are aesthetic negatives that Samsung keep repeating. Like you said the camera on the back is pretty large and bulges more than any smartphone in its category. I still don't understand why the Samsung branding needs to be on the front as well as the back of the phone too? I think it is about time that was dropped as the identity should be strong enough to distinguish it from its competitors.

There are many plus points for the S6 and S6 Edge. I like that something new has been brought to this end of the market and think it is about time Samsung adopted premium feel materials. It wasn't long ago their Senior Product Designer poked fun at HTC and Apple for using metal, so it is surprising and welcome they have changed their minds. Good on them and nice to see they are not the only manufacturer to back track like Apple did with screen size etc. :p

Our major aims were usability, friendliness and a more humanistic design, Samsung’s Senior Product Designer Dong Hun Kim said. Although HTC has received praise for the brushed metal design of the HTC One M8, the S5’s lead Android rival, Samsung has claimed that metal phones are ‘heavy and cold’.

He added: "With plastic, the texture is warmer. We believe users will find [the device] both warmer and friendlier. This material was also the best at visually expressing volume, better at symbolizing our design concepts."
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...sign-suggests-metal-phones-are-heavy-and-cold
 

TommyA6

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Samsung really stepped up to the plate with the S6 and S6E. They are truly innovating now with curved screens. They included top of the line hardware not seen in any mobile phones EVER!
I can't wait to get my hands on one.

Such as??

Faster RAM, faster CPU/GPU, faster flash memory?? Every next gen phone does this every year...
 

TommyA6

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That is until Apple has an iphone with a curved display. Then its innovation huh? The fact that Samsung was the first with a curved display and is years ahead of the rest of the mobile space speaks volumes.
This type of innovation is revolutionary that can lead to bendable foldable displays.

Mmmm... NO

A curved display such as in note 4 and s6 is a gimmick, whether Apple makes it or not. A flexible/foldable display done right is revolution.
Plus, Samsung isn't the only one making phones with curved displays lol.
 

spinedoc77

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Mmmm... NO

A curved display such as in note 4 and s6 is a gimmick, whether Apple makes it or not. A flexible/foldable display done right is revolution.
Plus, Samsung isn't the only one making phones with curved displays lol.

The utility of a curved display is indeed not established. Personally the main utility of the S6 edge display is no more bezels, but in the pictures I've seen you can still see the bezels anyway. I have to reserve judgment until I actually see on in person anyhow. A foldable display...well let me just take my money out of my wallet now, I don't care who makes it, how big it is, I'll gladly prepay the entire amount right now and get my foldable phone in 3 years.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Mmmm... NO

A curved display such as in note 4 and s6 is a gimmick, whether Apple makes it or not. A flexible/foldable display done right is revolution.
Plus, Samsung isn't the only one making phones with curved displays lol.

Most things can be considered a gimmick, until you actually use it and find it to be very useful.

Recent examples for me would be ......
Gear 2 Neo smartwatch
S-Pen on the Note 4
 

Sevanw

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That's the advantage of S6 being released 7 and a half months after the iPhone 6. Those thing just weren't ready (in the numbers Apple needs) when iPhone 6 was launched.

Also for the umpteenth time benchmark results =/= real usage speed.

Let's get one thing straight, nobody else had this (including Apple) because nobody else is a true OEM like Samsung. This is their innovation and engineering at work here. This is all their doing and nobody else. Everyone else has to wait for Samsung to innovate before using their new hardware (RAM, displays, Storage, etc..)
This is the advantage of being a true OEM and innovator.
 

Lava Lamp Freak

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That's because the S6 is just that damn good. Shame that we have to wait until iPhone 7 to be impressed. Apple really needs to change their strategy when the competition does something this amazing. A S model won't cut it.

Someone says that every year. Competition is great, and I hope Apple gives the iPhone a better camera this year, but I doubt there will be any major changes, such as a pressure-sensitive AMOLED display, until next year. I postulate that most iPhone users aren't dissuaded from purchasing the iPhone because it let them down spec wise. Users on this forum, yes. Everyone else, no.

The utility of a curved display is indeed not established. Personally the main utility of the S6 edge display is no more bezels, but in the pictures I've seen you can still see the bezels anyway. I have to reserve judgment until I actually see on in person anyhow. A foldable display...well let me just take my money out of my wallet now, I don't care who makes it, how big it is, I'll gladly prepay the entire amount right now and get my foldable phone in 3 years.

I was initially interested in the Edge, but after watching more videos, I think I'd rather buy the normal S6. Since the UI is the same as the normal S6, I think it would be annoying having the distortion at the edges, and I don't see a use for any of the supplied edge features. The main reason I initially liked the Edge is because it is slightly smaller than the normal S6.
 

jamezr

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I read that post and thought it was subjective opinion being strong armed as fact too. I like the look of both S6 variants but I still think there are aesthetic negatives that Samsung keep repeating. Like you said the camera on the back is pretty large and bulges more than any smartphone in its category. I still don't understand why the Samsung branding needs to be on the front as well as the back of the phone too? I think it is about time that was dropped as the identity should be strong enough to distinguish it from its competitors.

There are many plus points for the S6 and S6 Edge. I like that something new has been brought to this end of the market and think it is about time Samsung adopted premium feel materials. It wasn't long ago their Senior Product Designer poked fun at HTC and Apple for using metal, so it is surprising and welcome they have changed their minds. Good on them and nice to see they are not the only manufacturer to back track like Apple did with screen size etc. :p


http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...sign-suggests-metal-phones-are-heavy-and-cold
Pot meet kettle...

SJ on larger than 3.5 displays
Steve took the opportunity to rip on bigger rivals, saying that making a phone so big "you can't get your hand around it" helps, but that "no one's going to buy that." We're assuming he's likely talking about the latest crop of 4-, 4.3- and 5-inch phones that include the Galaxy S series, the EVO 4G, Droid X, and Dell Streak, even going so far as to call them "Hummers" (we take it you don't ever drive a Hummer, Steve?). Though ripping on the competition is to be expected, perhaps the more interesting takeaway here is that we can't realistically expect an iPhone much bigger than the 3.5-inch display they use today

Didn't he also say they would never make a tablet larger than 7 inches?

Didn't Steve say “No one is going to buy a big phone.”
 

TommyA6

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Most things can be considered a gimmick, until you actually use it and find it to be very useful.

Recent examples for me would be ......
Gear 2 Neo smartwatch
S-Pen on the Note 4

The thing is, the s6 edge has no extra functionality compared to the normal s6. The display is just curved :eek:
The note edge can at least show time on that side, but calling that very useful is stretching it.
 
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