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Galaxy S7

spinedoc77 said:
I'm surprised seeing how hardcore you guys are to get new hardware that you don't have the same excitement about the OS. Marshmallow brings some cool stuff, the fingerprint sign in, Samsung browser with adblocking, just to name a few. Plus all the optimizations, security, etc they bring. For me the key feature is I hope wifi calling will be enabled with marshmallow.
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I already have wifi calling through TMO. I am excited about the new stuff. But there is nothing earth shattering about it tbh.
 
BlueGoldAce said:
Unfortunately, I can get the adblock for Samsung browser to work. Appears to be a app problem, as other users are indicating the same problem in their reviews.
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That's with marshmallow? Dang that's not good news, I had high hopes for this.
 
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I'm referring the third party app, compatible with Samsung browser 4.0, in the playstore. I'm sure the developer can just update the app.
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I thought Google pulled that app and it had to be sideloaded? In any event it doesn't work with lollipop from what I understood, but only with the new browser Samsung has in Marshmallow TW.
 
You guys tempting me to use my JoD to get this phone away from my Note 5.

I think I will, but will at least wait until Root is out for this phone, and maybe wait for the custom ROM scene to get rolling. There's no way I could ever use a stock virgin Android without at least Root, that's like a fish swimming in no water, it's just not good.
 
spinedoc77 said:
I'm surprised seeing how hardcore you guys are to get new hardware that you don't have the same excitement about the OS. Marshmallow brings some cool stuff, the fingerprint sign in, Samsung browser with adblocking, just to name a few. Plus all the optimizations, security, etc they bring. For me the key feature is I hope wifi calling will be enabled with marshmallow.
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No one is not excited about new updates, just that it's not a deal breaker to get it right away when all things are considered.

I'm excited to get MM for my s6. Eventually.
 
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So it looks like i was right. European release unlike t-mobile is sticking to the 8th march for pre-order arrival (carriers & samsung) sending out pre-ordered devices on the 7th for delivery on the 8th.

Store sales assuming they have supplies begin 11th, and in Europe we should be getting the gear VR shipped with our pre-order not as a mail in rebate ...
 
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spinedoc77 said:
Yeah, that one only works with Android internet 4.0 which hasn't been released yet for lollipop. I was assuming you were using it on a S6/S7 or something with marshmallow.
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I am using it on the s7 edge, with marshmallow. It doesn't work. There is suppose to be an option in the
Browser setting once the app is installed. There isn't, not sure what the deal is.
 
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epicrayban said:
Plus, don't older iPhones that get updates not get some of the biggest features of the latest OS?

Still, Apple's window for what devices they update beats anyone else. No question there.
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Yes and agreed.

Good points, one could argue core app updates of the Google services/apps bring a similar level of enhancements, compared to a new iOS update.
 
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BlueGoldAce said:
Yes and agreed.

Good points, one could argue core app updates of the Google services/apps bring a similar level of enhancements, compared to a new iOS update.
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Yeah that's a good point. So in certain ways Google core services may be faster than an entire iOS update. It almost makes it impossible to compare them at this point due to so many variables.
 
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epicrayban said:
Plus, don't older iPhones that get updates miss out on some of the biggest features of the latest OS's?
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Yes, it's called feature fragmentation which is worse than OS fragmentation. We all know Android ad blockers such as Adguard don't care if they're running on 32 or 64-bit Android but iOS ad blocking is restricted to 64-bit only because of profit$ by early obsolescence. If anything, previous iOS devices could benefit a lot more from ad blocking than newer devices.
 
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epicrayban said:
This is the reality of nearly all Android devices. This is an Android problem in general, not just a Samsung problem. Samsung certainly doesn't help themselves by being one of the slower OEMs at updating (Motorola, Sony, even HTC can school them, for sure), but this should be nothing new to people familiar with how updates work on the Android side of things.

Here's my take, and most will have heard this already. And this isn't necessarily directed at you, as I'm sure you've heard me say some of these things already, too, and/or know of them yourself. Just saying in general:

1) Nexus owners don't necessarily get updates on the first day either. Even current generation Nexus device owners may have to wait weeks because Google rolls them out in waves. They do this to prevent major issues (like the one that bricked iPhone owners last year). Of course, weeks is still better than months.

2) Stock Android is, for some (myself included), too stock. I'm not willing to sacrifice day to day useful features for a quicker update. I rather have, say, TouchWiz on my device and benefit from the extra features and tweaks that make my daily smartphone experience better and easier.

3) Ditto hardware. Nexus devices don't always offer the best hardware. With, for example, Samsung, I get hardware features and benefits that translate to daily gains. With the S7 in particular: leading class screen, battery size, and camera; waterproofing; expandable microSD; design and ergonomics. Etc.

4) Most Android OEMs and carriers are pushing out those monthly security updates. Samsung just pushed out February's a few day's ago. They may not be exactly monthly and/or certain carriers may push them out slower after the fact (Tmobile hasn't been bad actually. I got the January one in early February, I want to say? If my memory serves me correctly). Also, your device in general is pretty protected already by the sheer fact that most (if not all?) malware/virus requires user approval to get onto your phone to wreak any sort of havoc. The best security feature is common sense. Only install from the Play Store. Avoid unknown sources/app installations. Don't click on weird links from suspicious email or unknown texts.

5) Google updates their core apps. And if you're heavily invested in Google (Gmail, calendar, Hangouts, keyboard, Google Now Launcher, etc.) you'll find these updates are actually quite frequent.

6) The extra long wait is usually due to approvals and quality control. And this leads to safer and more bug-free updates. Does it take half a year to QC an update? Heck no. For this point, I'm merely pointing out the silver lining.

7) Another silver lining: It's worth noting that today's Android that ships with most modern day smartphones is a stable, fast, reliable, and secure OS. Software updates back in the earlier years of Android mattered so much more because Android still had so much work to do and room to grow. That simply isn't as true these days; the differences aren't as great.


Again, these are just my thoughts and experiences. If one truly values timely software updates, Apple and Google Nexus are definitely the way to go. To me, it's not a deal breaker. Far from it. Updates are fully welcomed, but slow updates just aren't as important to me after you factor in everything else.
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I am afraid to me these are all just excuses. Both Google & Samsung are big companies and if they are unable to cope with timely updates then they should be putting more of their considerable resources towards this end.
 
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super chimp said:
I am afraid to me these are all just excuses. Both Google & Samsung are big companies and if they are unable to cope with timely updates then they should be putting more of their considerable resources towards this end.
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If the updates are practically yearly.... What's the deal? Same as iOS.

Don't forget, the carriers slow things down as well.
 
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super chimp said:
I am afraid to me these are all just excuses. Both Google & Samsung are big companies and if they are unable to cope with timely updates then they should be putting more of their considerable resources towards this end.
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I don't think you're fully aware of Google and Samsung's relationship with the carriers (it's nothing like Apple's relationships with them, just to put it simply), but fair enough. If lack of immediate updates is a dealbreaker for anyone, they're of course free to choose what they want.

We're on the same side; I want Google and Samsung to update faster and more reliably. But without a gigantic shift in the mobile and carrier industry, it just isn't happening. Some will be okay with this. I certainly am when all things are factored.

Updates are not the end all and be all of owning a smartphone. I'll never not be excited or want an update, nor would I ever argue for Google/Samsung to slow down (in fact, I argue for the opposite), but it just isn't a dealbreaker for very many good reasons. They're not excuses if there are actually day-to-day advantages to not owning an iPhone or Nexus device.

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mi7chy said:
Yes, it's called feature fragmentation which is worse than OS fragmentation. We all know Android ad blockers such as Adguard don't care if they're running on 32 or 64-bit Android but iOS ad blocking is restricted to 64-bit only because of profit$ by early obsolescence. If anything, previous iOS devices could benefit a lot more from ad blocking than newer devices.
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I also think this speaks to Apple's frugality of putting future-proof hardware into their phones. When they do put future-proofing hardware (like 64 bit processors that actually don't do much for today and last year's iPhones), then they're praised rightfully so. But when they don't, fans say the iPhone doesn't need it to run smoothly. Well, until software updates start getting too big or come with compromises.

I'd be frustrated as hell if an old device of mine got updated and ran slower/buggier because of it, especially if it meant I wasn't even getting the big features. I rather just have an old OS that runs smoothly.
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BlueGoldAce said:
Yes and agreed.

Good points, one could argue core app updates of the Google services/apps bring a similar level of enhancements, compared to a new iOS update.
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100% this. Google's core apps are updated amazingly frequently. And they range from small to big updates.

I much prefer this than waiting a full year to bring new features to iOS.
 
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Oh yeah....I'll post my impressions of the phone later, I just got it today.

I have the silver edge. It's beautiful, there is no denying that. It looks gold in some lighting situations, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's a beautiful color, and I'll be happy with it.

If your still on the fence, I'd recommend the black. This year's version is just gorgeous.
 
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BlueGoldAce said:
Oh yeah....I'll post my impressions of the phone later, I just got it today.

I have the silver edge. It's beautiful, there is no denying that. It looks gold in some lighting situations, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's a beautiful color, and I'll be happy with it.

If your still on the fence, I'd recommend the black. This year's version is just gorgeous.
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I think when I get it, I'll be following my gut instinct and go with the Silver. Do let us know if there's any reason Silver might be a bad idea!

Enjoy your phone! Post pics!
 
Geekbench scores for the Exynos variant .... So you still happy with the snapdragon ? ;)

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