As opposed to the Quick Charge 3.0 claim of 0 to 80 in that time. I guess a huge battery has it's disadvantages.
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As opposed to the Quick Charge 3.0 claim of 0 to 80 in that time. I guess a huge battery has it's disadvantages.
This is contingent on the assumption that the updates are really a good thing. This isn't always the case. I'm a long time iOS user, and yes, I get updates fast, but at the cost of bugs, reduced performance, and the like.
If I get a Note 6 and I'm stuck on a really stable M version for a long time (versus being updated to a not so stable N) why is there an issue?
Too much stock is put in OS updates in my opinion. Clearly there are circumstances where this isn't the case, but this is less and less of a dealbreaker for me going forward.
iOS updates, while fast, in the words of F.Gump, "are like a box of chocolates...."
anyway...just my thoughts.
People also failed to realize that a brand new Samsung Galaxy flagship phone will typically get an update within a year or less of its release, updating it to the new version of Android. Yes it may suck for people like us who are tech enthusiast, who want the latest version of Android right away, but if the current situation is not that different from an iPhone. And iPhone gets a major update once a year, and Samsung phones get a major update within a year roughly, sometimes more or less, and smaller updates in between. We also see that the note for an accessory, is supposed to have its update in the next month or two, meaning after the last 2 years the phone has been kept up to date on a yearly update cycle. The carriers may slow things down, and that's something that can only be changed if SAMSUNG eventually bypasses them. I believe Samsung has some weird deal with the carriers, that prevents it from being advantageous.
Yep. I forgot to add to my list, practically all modern day Android smartphones are running a version that is stable, fast, and reliable. Updates back then mattered way more because Android still had a lot of room to grow. That simply isn't as true anymore. Android is already a very functional, fast, stable, and secure OS. Updates are fully welcomed, but they just aren't deal breakers anymore when you factor in everything.
Bingo. I say the same to people that go on about updates all the time.
I still maintain apple's update structure is all around better than skinned android, when your phone feels old after 1 year
nexus is the best overall because frequent updates along with the ability to downgrade.
on apple you need to be careful about updating to .0 releases. Usually it is best to wait for .1 or even .2 or .3 because you can never go back.
And I keep my device at least two years! (and I wager most 'normal' people do) Then it can be passed down to somebody else while still getting support. My wife is happily on an iphone 5 latest OS and doesnt want a new phone, and it is in much better shape than the GS3 & GS4 (nonGPE edition at least)
Samsung is the best if you buy a new phone every year and thats what they really want
nothing in tech is obsolete (WRT Software) as fast as a skinned android phone - these phones should last years and years. The GS5 is still better than all midrange phones that are released today, but its support is effectively dead and is a bad buy versus a midrange phone. Where the iphone 5S is a good buy versus some midrange phone
nexus is the best overall because frequent updates along with the ability to downgrade.
on apple you need to be careful about updating to .0 releases. Usually it is best to wait for .1 or even .2 or .3 because you can never go back.
And I keep my device at least two years! (and I wager most 'normal' people do) Then it can be passed down to somebody else while still getting support. My wife is happily on an iphone 5 latest OS and doesnt want a new phone, and it is in much better shape than the GS3 & GS4 (nonGPE edition at least)
Samsung is the best if you buy a new phone every year and thats what they really want
nothing in tech is obsolete (WRT Software) as fast as a skinned android phone - these phones should last years and years. The GS5 is still better than all midrange phones that are released today, but its support is effectively dead and is a bad buy versus a midrange phone. Where the iphone 5S is a good buy versus some midrange phone
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I personally will no longer update my phone to new iterations of OS they didn't come with. In my experience it just means slower performance.
This is like asking if light bleed bothers you on an iOS device. It may be there, buy you'll only notice it if you look hard enough in a very dark room.
I love it when people can articulate what I want to say much more succinctly. Beats my long post!
Well said.
Cool. This would be my first time with the edge model so we'll see how it goes.
Well then let's go back another year. IPhone 5 will get ios 10 and gs4 was stopped at lollipop. The buggiest 5.01 version as well, not even 5.1 unless you have GPE
At that point, you get into the argument of which philosophy is better. The more updates that the iPhone gets as it gets older, the slower and less usable it becomes. You just have to read the forums to see several examples of this, so the question is, at what point is Apple updating the devices just to say that they do, and not to benefit the customer? While I'm not giving SAMSUNG excuse saying that not updating the phones is this the better route, you can't deny that the phone will continue to perform as it should on that update from that point forward, and not randomly get an update year later that makes it unusable. The reality of the situation is that the various devices, carriers, hardware and drivers make it hard for a company to keep all their devices updated, outside of companies like Apple with tight control. But that tight control has disadvantages, as well as advantages, and is a whole other argument.
Anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal. But my buddy is still happy with his s4, which performs well, while my aunt upgraded her iPhone 5's software, and constantly complains to me about it now.
Different philosophies and systems.
This is the truth. I have only owned one Nexus phone so far and that was the Nexus 4. I remember waiting 1-2 months sometimes for a KitKat update that others were getting several weeks before I did. When I was waiting for the Lollipop update, it took at least two months before my phone got it. Still much faster then the rest of the Android phones but this was a Nexus. They totally messed up the 5.1.1 update on the Nexus 4 and it ran at a snails pace. To do this day, my old Nexus 4 and 2012 Nexus 7 are running 4.4.4 where they are still very much usable. Many others also went back to 4.4.4 on those two devices.
Though I have a Note 5 and have a S7 Edge ordered on T-Mobile, I still want to also get a Nexus P and may very well do that very soon.
I will bet the user experience of IOS 10 on a IP5 will be the same as a S4 on lollipop.
You have a point though but I would argue the gs4 is more unusable with its out of date firmware than the iPhone 5 is in latest OS. Same goes for the nexus 5 which should be about the same age. The gs4 has arguably the best hardware too
Maybe....lollipop funs wonderfully on older devices. If it runs poorly, it's a touchwiz thing. You get what you sign up for. I personally believe Samsung may have turned a new leaf, but the s4 came from the company when it's attitude led to the S5....which I saw as a bloated, in optimized phone.
Android is made run the spectrum, be it a high powered or low powered device. iOS continues to get more and more power hungry, for whatever reason, resulting in a declining experience for older devices.
I would argue the Moto G from this year or last runs faster then the still more expensive iPhone 5.
I'm surprised seeing how hardcore you guys are to get new hardware that you don't have the same excitement about the OS. Marshmallow brings some cool stuff, the fingerprint sign in, Samsung browser with adblocking, just to name a few. Plus all the optimizations, security, etc they bring. For me the key feature is I hope wifi calling will be enabled with marshmallow.
Unfortunately, I can get the adblock for Samsung browser to work. Appears to be a app problem, as other users are indicating the same problem in their reviews.
Well ios is expanding capability coming from a very smooth and tight background while android is smoothing and tightening coming from a feature rich background I would argue, explaining why we see what we do.
I feel like stock Android is always increasing in performance while I can't say the same for 1+ year old Samsung phones. I would be just as careful about updating my flagship Samsung device from its earlier firmwares (assuming I can't downgrade) as I would about my iPhone. I want Samsung to share this same trait that stock Android does.
Good points, and I agree.
The lollipop to marshmallow update for the s6/note 5 seems to be bringing performance improvements....but that's only one example compared to the opposite for the last few years. Hopefully it's a new trend...
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