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I am hoping for Arya or Jaime. Either one would work for me. I would love to see either one looking into her eyes as they deliver the death blow. The utter betrayal from Jaime, or the "you have got to be kidding me, a Stark took me down" look.
I'm thinking Jamie might get finished off before he gets the chance. Who knows.
But yes Arya would give a completion after what happened to Ned Stark.
 

rhett7660

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I'm thinking Jamie might get finished off before he gets the chance. Who knows.
But yes Arya would give a completion after what happened to Ned Stark.

I have a feeling you are right, but that would be a sight to behold. He lays her down to bed her one last time and well..... She gets the sharp end of a dagger!

If the rumors are true about the number of remaining shows, it is going to be a rather quick season, which is somewhat disappointing. I hope they extend it by a few episodes so it doesn't feel rushed like most of this season did.
 

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I have a feeling you are right, but that would be a sight to behold. He lays her down to bed her one last time and well..... She gets the sharp end of a dagger!

If the rumors are true about the number of remaining shows, it is going to be a rather quick season, which is somewhat disappointing. I hope they extend it by a few episodes so it doesn't feel rushed like most of this season did.
I'm all for one and a half hour episodes like last night.
 

LethalWolfe

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Bran and Sam ‘conveniently’ talk about Jon for a minute. 80+ minutes and they still rushed things.

The "we need exposition and we need it now!" talk between Bran and Sam was a microcosm of this whole season. The need to push the plot forward outweighed the need to tell a great story. But this season and the next are what they are. GoT on Fast Forward at this stage isn't horrible, it's just not as good as the first six seasons.

Speaking of Bran, I think he's woefully under used, but he has to be for sake of the story. The paradox with making a character so powerful is that you are never able to have them use all the power you gave them.
 

Huntn

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I've also been thinking about Maggie the Frog's prophecy about Cersei's death at the hands of the "little brother". After weighing up all the options (which now include Jon Snow when you take the murder of Elia Martell's children into account) I'm pitching for Sandor Clegane being the one who finishes her off.
He's a favorite, one among many, as a complex character, bad and good.
 

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Well, it it takes indeed until 2019 for the last season, I have time to re-watch the previous seven seasons in order to understand the things that I missed the first time around.
Great show!
 
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Jamie and Cersei getting on next to their dead son (or was it their dad) seemed far lower than what they were doing in season 1.

I meant that Jamie and Cersei's brother-sister incest was "lower" than Jon and Dany's, using season 1 as an example. J and C know their relationship, but J and D aren't yet aware that they're nephew and aunt, so I give them a pass. In any event, I don't think we'll see any more sex between Jamie and his sister, since he's on her s-list and is probably riding north.

Interestingly, the last thing we heard Tyrion say to Cersei was that she's pregnant. If Tyrion believes that and regrets any role he might have played in the death of her other children, I wonder if his allegiance is now in question. Maybe that's why Tyrion was skulking Littlefiger-like when Jon entered Dany's chamber. If Jamie ends up seeing Tyrion again, it's possible that Jamie will have to make the case that Cersei's baby isn't his, or that there's no baby at all. And, since Bran knows everything, I wonder if we'll get to see what transpired between Tyrion and Cersei before he returned to Dany and crew.
 

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Good episode but again rushed which i guess is understandable with one season left.

Jon and Dany's relationship still bothers me, it feels forced but whatever.

Tyrion acting like he had just been friendzoned made me chuckle. I'm also guessing he will eventually defect once he learns Dany is pregnant.

The exposition of Jon's identity seemed anti-climatic given the buildup. It was basically a story time sequence. I dont think Aegon will get the throne either. Tenacious but not particularly smart.

Littlefinger's judgement was pretty good. Being killed by his own blade made it even more poetic.

Clegane showdown...The Hound in general gets my thumbs up. As does Ser Jamie.

Lastly the dragon...beautifully done. And Tormund is obviously not dead.

Fun season even if rushed
 

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Speaking of Bran, I think he's woefully under used, but he has to be for sake of the story. The paradox with making a character so powerful is that you are never able to have them use all the power you gave them.
He's not OP, IMO. That last episode showed one of his limits. He doesn't see everything. He needs a lead so he can know when and where to visit to see events that happened.
 

LethalWolfe

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He's not OP, IMO. That last episode showed one of his limits. He doesn't see everything. He needs a lead so he can know when and where to visit to see events that happened.

I'm not so sure how Bran decides to know something and not know something. For example, when Littlefinger presented the dagger to Bran, Bran said "chaos is a ladder" which is a line LF used years ago. When Bran was reunited with Sansa he talked about her wedding to Ramsay as if he had been there. Does Bran just decide to 'download' a person's life when he meets them? If so, then when Sam walked in Bran should've already known about the secret wedding before Sam told him. Bran 'divining' that info from Sam would've been much more in character than Sam having to tell it to him.

On a more strategic note, why aren't they using Bran's powers to constantly spy on their enemies? Other than because it's bad for the plot of the show, there's no reason Jon, Daenerys, Sansa, etc., shouldn't already know about Cersei's plan to break the pact, Euron sailing to pick up the mercenary army, Jamie (presumably) ridding north alone, where Yara is being held, etc.,. Heck, just have Bran take control of some animals in order to kill Cersei and Euron and be done with it.

Earlier in the season when Bran talked about himself as the Three-eyed Raven I thought he wasn't going to consider himself a Stark anymore (and maybe not even a man) as he had ascended to a higher plane and no longer concerned himself with these 'trivial' problems of mankind (similar to the position Doctor Manhattan takes in Watchmen). But when Bran sat next to Sansa and provided the key evidence to prove LF's guilt then I was like, "Okay, I guess Bran is going to remain active member of the Stark family." Which goes back to my point that Bran should be constantly spying on (and probably assassinating) their enemies at every possible turn.
 

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I'm not so sure how Bran decides to know something and not know something. For example, when Littlefinger presented the dagger to Bran, Bran said "chaos is a ladder" which is a line LF used years ago. When Bran was reunited with Sansa he talked about her wedding to Ramsay as if he had been there. Does Bran just decide to 'download' a person's life when he meets them? If so, then when Sam walked in Bran should've already known about the secret wedding before Sam told him. Bran 'divining' that info from Sam would've been much more in character than Sam having to tell it to him.

On a more strategic note, why aren't they using Bran's powers to constantly spy on their enemies? Other than because it's bad for the plot of the show, there's no reason Jon, Daenerys, Sansa, etc., shouldn't already know about Cersei's plan to break the pact, Euron sailing to pick up the mercenary army, Jamie (presumably) ridding north alone, where Yara is being held, etc.,. Heck, just have Bran take control of some animals in order to kill Cersei and Euron and be done with it.

Earlier in the season when Bran talked about himself as the Three-eyed Raven I thought he wasn't going to consider himself a Stark anymore (and maybe not even a man) as he had ascended to a higher plane and no longer concerned himself with these 'trivial' problems of mankind (similar to the position Doctor Manhattan takes in Watchmen). But when Bran sat next to Sansa and provided the key evidence to prove LF's guilt then I was like, "Okay, I guess Bran is going to remain active member of the Stark family." Which goes back to my point that Bran should be constantly spying on (and probably assassinating) their enemies at every possible turn.
He doesn't download everything about a person. He goes to specific moments in history and views them.

He probably just wanted to check on his family and see how they were doing. He wanted to see what happened to his father. He knew Littlefinger betrayed him so he looked at moments throughout LF's life. Just because he heard the conversation about chaos doesn't mean he knows everything LF ever did.

He didn't know about the wedding because he didn't just download Sam's life, and it didn't come to his attention until after because Sam didn't even know that was important until Bran gave him that critical piece of information.

He probably is watching Cersei, Jon, Dany, etc. but there aren't cell phones so there's no way to get word to him instantly. Maybe he'll send a raven assuming he even knows but it just happened. We'll have to wait and see what happens next season.
 
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He doesn't download everything about a person. He goes to specific moments in history and views them.

He probably just wanted to check on his family and see how they were doing. He wanted to see what happened to his father. He knew Littlefinger betrayed him so he looked at moments throughout LF's life. Just because he heard the conversation about chaos doesn't mean he knows everything LF ever did.

He didn't know about the wedding because he didn't just download Sam's life, and it didn't come to his attention until after because Sam didn't even know that was important until Bran gave him that critical piece of information.

He probably is watching Cersei, Jon, Dany, etc. but there aren't cell phones so there's no way to get word to him instantly. Maybe he'll send a raven assuming he even knows but it just happened. We'll have to wait and see what happens next season.
I hope he's not watching Jon and Dany. It was bad enough Tryion watching outside the door!
 

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Anyone still looking for some Game of Thrones action should watch "The Game Revealed" mini series on YouTube, worth a look! 7 amazing BTS videos (15 mins each).
 

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Love the series, some of the most memorable and lovable/hatable as necessary characters you can find - but find the books too ponderous and unfocused, think Martin has honestly found the limits of fictional world breadth that can comfortably be contained in a single series no matter how long - and comfortably exceeded them :confused: it’s more of a shame because the TV series has deviated so much from the book series and season 7 is almost an abridged version of events... guess I am going to have to slog through the books to get the full impact!
 

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I've given the matter a lot of thought and have decided nothing.

However....


I hope that Cersei really is pregnant and the show allows her to live until she delivers....a misshapen dwarfish child that looks just like her youngest brother. The shame of knowing it's her own genes will probably kill her.

i just want her to die a very slow death, and something truly excruciating! hahahahaha i would laugh lol

what i think will happen - Dany will mysteriously get pregnant by Jon Snow. cant wait.
 
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Huntn

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Love the series, some of the most memorable and lovable/hatable as necessary characters you can find - but find the books too ponderous and unfocused, think Martin has honestly found the limits of fictional world breadth that can comfortably be contained in a single series no matter how long - and comfortably exceeded them :confused: it’s more of a shame because the TV series has deviated so much from the book series and season 7 is almost an abridged version of events... guess I am going to have to slog through the books to get the full impact!

That is kind of my description, GoT, the best Cliff Notes televised version of a book series ever! The best outline of a story, with acted out exerpts, obligatory sex scenes, and the majesty of 30 second battles. :)

There is nothing better than the books, the narrative is rich and complex, an amazing story. However, as you probably know in it’s condensed way, the TV series has passed the books by. I’m not up to date on GRRM’s book writing progress, but my impression is that they may never be finished, but who knows? I’d have to go back and reread the last published book to orient myself properly if they ever are completed.

Speculation about GoT book from Summer 2017:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywoo...-finish-books-winds-of-winter-who-fears-death

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Six episode final season? Hmm. -_-
 
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