Game of Thrones (HBO)

[rhett7660]

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I lost a little respect for Daenerys Targaryen when Jon Snow told her that he was the rightful heir to the throne. Though I can understand her being a little disappointed by the news, but I thought she would be more appalled when she found out that she was sleeping with her brother.

Nah,,, the sleeping with relatives, even close ones doesn't seem to be in issue in this universe. Heck, the conversation between Jaime and Tyrion was very casual when they were discussing Jaime and Cersei's love affair.

Daenery's didn't even blink and eye...

 

[Apple fanboy]

Spoiler

I lost a little respect for Daenerys Targaryen when Jon Snow told her that he was the rightful heir to the throne. Though I can understand her being a little disappointed by the news, but I thought she would be more appalled when she found out that she was sleeping with her brother.

Not her brother. Aunt. (Not that that’s fine either!).

 

[Krayzkat]

Spoiler

I lost a little respect for Daenerys Targaryen when Jon Snow told her that he was the rightful heir to the throne. Though I can understand her being a little disappointed by the news, but I thought she would be more appalled when she found out that she was sleeping with her brother.

Spoiler: correction

"....sleeping with her nephew."

 

[Apple fanboy]

Nah,,, the sleeping with relatives, even close ones doesn't seem to be in issue in this universe. Heck, the conversation between Jaime and Tyrion was very casual when they were discussing Jaime and Cersei's love affair.

Daenery's didn't even blink and eye...

A kid I went to school with once told us his parents were distant cousins.
We used to tease him terribly. Uncle dad and auntie mum was how we used to refer to them.

 

[trillionaire]

Nah,,, the sleeping with relatives, even close ones doesn't seem to be in issue in this universe. Heck, the conversation between Jaime and Tyrion was very casual when they were discussing Jaime and Cersei's love affair.

Daenery's didn't even blink and eye...

In typical Daenerys fashion, she was more worried about her throne than what they did. At the beginning she was a character everyone could love; fighting for the little guy, freeing slaves. Now she seems to be getting more and more like a mad tyrant than the breaker of chains. We'll see where the end of the series takes us.

 

[Apple fanboy]

In typical Daenerys fashion, she was more worried about her throne than what they did. At the beginning she was a character everyone could love; fighting for the little guy, freeing slaves. Now she seems to be getting more and more like a mad tyrant than the breaker of chains. We'll see where the end of the series takes us.

In only four more episodes

 

[ritmomundo]

Spoiler: Ep 8x02

Powerful episode. How does one who knows death approaches spend his final hours? I think we really got to see some of these characters at their truest.

Jaime knighting Brienne was great.

Sansa standing her ground with Dany.

Tormund’s story about the giant’s milk had me in stitches. I mean.. just..

I’m excited for the season’s first big battle, but simultaneously nervous to say goodbye to some of these characters.

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I lost a little respect for Daenerys Targaryen when Jon Snow told her that he was the rightful heir to the throne. Though I can understand her being a little disappointed by the news, but I thought she would be more appalled when she found out that she was sleeping with her brother.

In typical Daenerys fashion, she was more worried about her throne than what they did. At the beginning she was a character everyone could love; fighting for the little guy, freeing slaves. Now she seems to be getting more and more like a mad tyrant than the breaker of chains. We'll see where the end of the series takes us.

I think way back in season 1, Cersei told Ned that incest was common among Targaryens to keep their bloodline pure, so finding out Jon is related probably isn't a big shock to Dany. After all (according to the books), Dany's own parents, Aerys II and Rhaella, were brother and sister. I think her reaction in this situation was completely warranted, given the guy she has developed feelings for has a sudden and stronger claim to her throne. And conveniently the only people who can corroborate it are his brother and best friend. Suspicion must be running through her mind and wondering if he's being truthful or if it was his plan all along.

 

[C DM]

In typical Daenerys fashion, she was more worried about her throne than what they did. At the beginning she was a character everyone could love; fighting for the little guy, freeing slaves. Now she seems to be getting more and more like a mad tyrant than the breaker of chains. We'll see where the end of the series takes us.

Could be that overall things are mostly going down the more typical "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" type of path.

 

[zmunkz]

I think there’s always been a bit of the tyrant in her. It’s constantly her advisors holding her back from her more fierce instincts. To her credit she usually listens to them… Minus a few scorched Carls and Tarleys.

It seems to me that’s the essence of her arc. Is she the Mad Queen, or does she really seek peace and prosperity? The writers are clearly pressing the uncertainty in order to get a good payoff one way or the other, but I’m not sure which yet. My sense is she will overcome her tyrant nature, when it comes down to it (and by that, I think she has to die somehow to stop the Night King).

 

[AlliFlowers]

Apparently it's the epic battle(s) that required the time and money for this final season, so I'm expecting at least the Battle of Blackwater (which was my favorite). I'd rather they didn't just drag out battles, and I'm not keen on watching just to see who gets killed next, and whether whoever it is, is killed by a white walker or a Lannister.

And I will admit to crying when Brienne was knighted. That was just a beautiful scene. It's also nice to see Jaime realizing his humanity and humility.

 

[zmunkz]

(and by that, I think she has to die somehow to stop the Night King).

Or at least something that tracks along this thread, with her sacrificing. I need to go back and see what exactly the prophecies said about her babies back in season 1:

 

[ericgtr12]

In typical Daenerys fashion, she was more worried about her throne than what they did. At the beginning she was a character everyone could love; fighting for the little guy, freeing slaves. Now she seems to be getting more and more like a mad tyrant than the breaker of chains. We'll see where the end of the series takes us.

She made no bones about it, the iron throne is her goal and that's that. But I think deep down she knows Jon is right, it also explains the dragons warming up to him.

I would also like to say that the writing and acting in this show is just top notch. I don't think I've ever seen a better show in my life, it'll be sad to see it end.

Spoiler: S08E2

but judging from this last episode they're not long for this world lol.

 

[rhett7660]

She made no bones about it, the iron throne is her goal and that's that. But I think deep down she knows Jon is right, it also explains the dragons warming up to him.

I would also like to say that the writing and acting in this show is just top notch. I don't think I've ever seen a better show in my life, it'll be sad to see it end.

Spoiler: S08E2

but judging from this last episode they're not long for this world lol.

The knighting seen was outstanding. She didn't have to say a word and you could see everything you needed to see on her face. That was my favorite scene out of the episode. Of course, I really like her character so for her to finally get the acknowledgement and confirmation was something special. Great scene, which to me proves your point.

 

[ericgtr12]

The knighting seen was outstanding. She didn't have to say a word and you could see everything you needed to see on her face. That was my favorite scene out of the episode. Of course, I really like her character so for her to finally get the acknowledgement and confirmation was something special. Great scene, which to me proves your point.

That smile was priceless, never seen before and likely never again which makes it that much more special. There was nobody more worthy of knighthood.

 

[Huntn]

Spoiler

I lost a little respect for Daenerys Targaryen when Jon Snow told her that he was the rightful heir to the throne. Though I can understand her being a little disappointed by the news, but I thought she would be more appalled when she found out that she was sleeping with her brother.

I’m not sure, but he may be her nephew technically? Not sure, but maybe the horns blew before she had time to process that, she was much more jarred by this revelation from a succession standpoint. But even then, incest was very common in royal families to hold on to the wealth, so that kind of disgust may not exist from a medieval perspective.

 

[bambooshots]

I’m not sure, but he may be her nephew technically? Not sure, but maybe the horns blew before she had time to process that, she was much more jarred by this revelation from a succession standpoint. But even then, incest was very common in royal families to hold on to the wealth, so that kind of disgust may not exist from a medieval perspective.

You are correct; he is her nephew and she is his aunt.

 

[Apple fanboy]

You are correct; he is her nephew and she is his aunt.

Which in GOT is almost acceptable!

 

[ritmomundo]

Which in GOT is almost acceptable!

Or entirely acceptable (among Targaryens anyway,, and some Lannisters ). @0:45

 

[Roller]

She made no bones about it, the iron throne is her goal and that's that. But I think deep down she knows Jon is right, it also explains the dragons warming up to him.

I would also like to say that the writing and acting in this show is just top notch. I don't think I've ever seen a better show in my life, it'll be sad to see it end.

Spoiler: S08E2

but judging from this last episode they're not long for this world lol.

Yes, Dany's goal has been the Iron Throne — nothing less seems to satisfy her. It's her way of breaking the wheel, as she once said. What remains to be seen is how she processes Jon's revelation about his parentage: would she sacrifice herself for his and the world's sake? We also don't know what Jon thinks about it. Will he feel a duty to fulfill his destiny (assuming he survives), or will he say that he doesn't want to be king and essentially abdicate the responsibility to Aunt Dany, who is next in line? I think he was about to tell her when they were interrupted by the horns signaling the white walkers' arrival.

I suspect we'll see one or more major characters bite the dust next time, but there will be three episodes after that, so this isn't yet the battle to end all battles. And, judging by what was shown in the S8 trailer and by several pronouncements about the safety of the Winterfell crypts, I can't imagine that things will go well down there.

Although I'm sad that GoT will be ending, I believe it's the right time to bring the story to a close. I prefer to see series finish their run on top rather than overstaying their welcome. I'm hoping that the prequel will be just as good.

 

[Bug-Creator]

so this isn't yet the battle to end all battles.

It hardly could be, glorious victory or crushing defeat as there still is Cersei around.

My guess:
Winterfell will fall (and about 50% of the fireplace group with it), Night King will push his army south leaving whoever was in the crypt or hid somewhere else in pursuit.

 

[ericgtr12]

It hardly could be, glorious victory or crushing defeat as there still is Cersei around.

My guess:
Winterfell will fall (and about 50% of the fireplace group with it), Night King will push his army south leaving whoever was in the crypt or hid somewhere else in pursuit.

There's speculation that the Knight King won't even be at the battle of Winterfell (we'll notice they didn't even show him at the end of the last episode) that he is instead setting it up as a smoke screen (let some of his army take them on) while making a full on invasion of King's Landing. It's an interesting theory, plausible IMO.

 

[zmunkz]

I read that theory too. It makes tactical sense, but it would mean Bran was wrong. It would explain what the rest of the season is going to look like. I’m not in agreement with those who say ep3 will settle the Night King and ep4-6 will settle the iron throne. On the contrary, I’m quite convinced the Night King will be the final confrontation at the series end.

My guess is he comes to Winterfell for Bran, wins (whatever that looks like) leaving some to retreat to the Iron Islands (Jamie, Dany, Jon). Then I see the Cersi conflict unfolding as they wait for the second and final Night King conflict.

 

[trillionaire]

There's speculation that the Knight King won't even be at the battle of Winterfell (we'll notice they didn't even show him at the end of the last episode) that he is instead setting it up as a smoke screen (let some of his army take them on) while making a full on invasion of King's Landing. It's an interesting theory, plausible IMO.

That was my initial thought when I saw the last scene, since they didn't show him. Then again, he has been known to stay in the back, while all his "generals" lead the attack. The reason for this is most likely that his death would mean the end of the white walkers. If he's even killable.

It's great that there's so much speculation, but there will only be the one outcome, which is the one thought up by the show-runners. The anticipation is definitely part of the experience.

 

[ericgtr12]

That was my initial thought when I saw the last scene, since they didn't show him. Then again, he has been known to stay in the back, while all his "generals" lead the attack. The reason for this is most likely that his death would mean the end of the white walkers. If he's even killable.

It's great that there's so much speculation, but there will only be the one outcome, which is the one thought up by the show-runners. The anticipation is definitely part of the experience.

Twists are coming.

 

[Huntn]

Yes, Dany's goal has been the Iron Throne — nothing less seems to satisfy her. It's her way of breaking the wheel, as she once said. What remains to be seen is how she processes Jon's revelation about his parentage: would she sacrifice herself for his and the world's sake? We also don't know what Jon thinks about it. Will he feel a duty to fulfill his destiny (assuming he survives), or will he say that he doesn't want to be king and essentially abdicate the responsibility to Aunt Dany, who is next in line? I think he was about to tell her when they were interrupted by the horns signaling the white walkers' arrival.

I suspect we'll see one or more major characters bite the dust next time, but there will be three episodes after that, so this isn't yet the battle to end all battles. And, judging by what was shown in the S8 trailer and by several pronouncements about the safety of the Winterfell crypts, I can't imagine that things will go well down there.

Although I'm sad that GoT will be ending, I believe it's the right time to bring the story to a close. I prefer to see series finish their run on top rather than overstaying their welcome. I'm hoping that the prequel will be just as good.

It seems like the logical end for this series.

For the entire 7 book series (2 yet to be published) although a journey for a group of characters, the story seems to be centered on the Iron Throne, with the knowledge that it was a Targaryen who united 6 of the 7 Independent Kingdoms, the 7th through a marriage alliance with Dorne.

Daenerys journey, although she has been in the story from the beginning, the theme was not apparent from the start, which has been to take the throne back (her brother was the one, until he proved unworthy) she feels was stolen from her father, The Mad King. So I’ll be very disappointed if she were not to survive for the final conflict with Cersei Lannister.

And I admit, I’ll be very disappointed if Cersei wins, but honestly who knows with this author? One of several curve ball endings, It could be Gendry who ends up on the Iron Throne with Ayra as his Queen. But it would be a shame if Dragons were not in the final picture, but then you could ask, how would they stay in the picture?

It has been mentioned that the sex of Daenerys’s dragons are unknown, but it is suspect they can change sex, and it’s possible that her 2 dragons could reproduce, if they survive, maybe they are not subject to the same genetic diversity needs that other animals have to produce healthy offspring.

Also, I’m not clear on exactly who can master dragons. Blood of the dragon is referenced by Daenerys and her brother, the ability of their family to withstand fire, as possibly related to the ability to domesticate dragons, but also related to their Valyrian ancestry, yet they were 1 of 40 dragonlord families. So, my guess is they don’t necessarily have a lock on dragon riding.
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Targaryen