They were pretty ugly. At first I thought it was a QT compression or streaming artifact. Guess not.
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They were pretty ugly. At first I thought it was a QT compression or streaming artifact. Guess not.
midi out is huge... i understand though that it may be placing garage band outside of the "i" app range though... perhaps with version 2 we will get a more robust app... i dont know why im complaining anyhow, ill just continue to use protools... congrats for apple on the new app though...
Dude it's a great program from the looks of it..
But with no MIDI out...it blows on that end....
Otherwise it looks to be fun!!
According to Apple...
So yes it's for everyone...
G4scott wrote:
Yeah, but it's not just professionals vs. home users. I'm a home user... just one with a couple of sound modules.
The great thing about the Apple video apps is that you have
1. doozy consumer app (iMovie)
2. enthusiastic amateur app (Final Cut Express)
3. pro app (Final Cut Pro)
So I guess we have to wait for Logic Express for MIDI Out...
Yeah, but it's not just professionals vs. home users. I'm a home user... just one with a couple of sound modules.
The great thing about the Apple video apps is that you have
1. doozy consumer app (iMovie)
2. enthusiastic amateur app (Final Cut Express)
3. pro app (Final Cut Pro)
So I guess we have to wait for Logic Express for MIDI Out...
Heck, quite a bit of the music for sell on iTunes now is "really bad"... at least as far as I'm concerned.
At any rate, they could create a seperate section of the iTunes store just for "Garage Bands", and have iTunes users rate them.
Bands that don't get a high enough rating are removed from the store after a certain period of time. Garage Bands with high ratings and/or a large amount of downloads get a special mention.
As a musician, I think it's time we did away with the middle man (the RIAA & the entire recording industry). Why can't bands sell directly to consumers?
i was hoping this would be like logic express... c'mon apple... give me a nice tight little environment to make music and ill be more than happy to dump digidesign...
They have to leave space for Logic, which they own. If you have a need for MIDI out, then you have some decent amount already invested in hardware, everything won't be happening "in-box", and you're really meant to be buying Logic.
Of course I would love Reason integration, MIDI out, etc., but I also know that some of these features might mean the end of any real market for Logic outside of actual studio spaces. If there was something as easy to use as GarageBand with Reason integration, AU instrument support, MIDI out, etc., and it sold for $200, I would buy it. I don't know if it will ever exist, but I hope so.
I'll probably give this a go, but I can go only so far without decent synth modelling and tweaking.
Of course I would love Reason integration, MIDI out, etc., but I also know that some of these features might mean the end of any real market for Logic outside of actual studio spaces. If there was something as easy to use as GarageBand with Reason integration, AU instrument support, MIDI out, etc., and it sold for $200, I would buy it. I don't know if it will ever exist, but I hope so.
I'll probably give this a go, but I can go only so far without decent synth modelling and tweaking.
Keep in mind that this was designed to let basic musicians write/sample music. Midi Out is far beyond the novice level.
They packed a hell of a lot more punch than expected for a beginner app.
Get soundtrack if you need a pro app.
They packed a hell of a lot more punch than expected for a beginner app.
Get soundtrack if you need a pro app.
garageband cool but not for pros
I love apple because they do stuff like this. They give the opportunity for people to create things in such an easy way that they had never before thought possible. This is a great tool for kids aand parents to whip something together. It is also great for kids giving them a fun creative way to practice. I wish they had this when I was younger.
That said, it is not a professional studio tool although I'm sure a good engineer/musician with the skills could make some great stuff. It's just that their tools here are limited. iPhoto is great but I'm going to do any professional photo retouching in Photoshop. The jpeg export in iPhoto has a lot to be desired. Same for video. iMovie is great for whipping something together, but Final Cut Pro is the way for professionals. If I had kids and they showed an interest in Music and wanted to experiment, there's no way I'd let them in my studio to play on my ProTools/Ableton rig. But I'm sure I would get a warm fuzzy feeling inside if I walked past their bedroom and heard them creating something with a USB keyboard and an iMac.
Now if higher scale version (maybe a next generation eMagic thing?) has support for rewire, better MIDI, better editing, etc than maybe it could be pro.......sumer....
I love apple because they do stuff like this. They give the opportunity for people to create things in such an easy way that they had never before thought possible. This is a great tool for kids aand parents to whip something together. It is also great for kids giving them a fun creative way to practice. I wish they had this when I was younger.
That said, it is not a professional studio tool although I'm sure a good engineer/musician with the skills could make some great stuff. It's just that their tools here are limited. iPhoto is great but I'm going to do any professional photo retouching in Photoshop. The jpeg export in iPhoto has a lot to be desired. Same for video. iMovie is great for whipping something together, but Final Cut Pro is the way for professionals. If I had kids and they showed an interest in Music and wanted to experiment, there's no way I'd let them in my studio to play on my ProTools/Ableton rig. But I'm sure I would get a warm fuzzy feeling inside if I walked past their bedroom and heard them creating something with a USB keyboard and an iMac.
Now if higher scale version (maybe a next generation eMagic thing?) has support for rewire, better MIDI, better editing, etc than maybe it could be pro.......sumer....
Yeah, I keep hoping Apple will do something incredible with Logic, but it hasn't happened yet.
GarageBand is a nice idea, but it doesn't fill my needs.
I just want an intuitive, attractive, yet powerful audio/midi sequencer. I've used Digital Performer, Logic, Cubase, and Metro, and none are exactly what I'm looking for. Sure, they are powerful alright, but all are a total b*tch to use.
The most intuitive sequencer I've used to date is Freestyle, but it doesn't support audio and does not work on Mac OS X.
You guys suck...
Seriously, how can you complain about this app? I understand it doesn't have every feature under the sun -- but neither does iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD, or even iTunes.
This is the most ambitious app Apple has released yet under it's iLife suite -- personally, I can't believe it's as feature-complete as it is, to be selling for $10 (which is basically is -- it's one-fifth of the $50 price tag) and given away free on new Macs.
It's not designed for folks who already have plenty of hardware synths -- it''s designed for people who have no synth and want to play with a software one. It's designed as an entry-level toy that will get people interested (and then they'll go buy Logic). It's designed as a tool that NO OTHER personal computer comes with. It's designed as a tool that it WAY more advanced than anything else with it's price tag. It's designed to be incredibly easy to use. It's designed to be fun and spark creative juices. It's designed for people to quickly throw down background music for their iMove or flash animation. It's designed to be a studio that is as portable as your PowerBook. And it looks to me like it absolutley kills on all counts.
Apple may SAY it's for everyone, but clearly it's entry-level. Even pros (like, Sheryl Crow in the video) can use entry-level tools sometimes.
Complaining about this is just silly. It's like complaining that the iMac isn't as powerful as the PowerMac G5. Get over it, or go buy Logic.
Quit your bitching.
Seriously, how can you complain about this app? I understand it doesn't have every feature under the sun -- but neither does iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD, or even iTunes.
This is the most ambitious app Apple has released yet under it's iLife suite -- personally, I can't believe it's as feature-complete as it is, to be selling for $10 (which is basically is -- it's one-fifth of the $50 price tag) and given away free on new Macs.
It's not designed for folks who already have plenty of hardware synths -- it''s designed for people who have no synth and want to play with a software one. It's designed as an entry-level toy that will get people interested (and then they'll go buy Logic). It's designed as a tool that NO OTHER personal computer comes with. It's designed as a tool that it WAY more advanced than anything else with it's price tag. It's designed to be incredibly easy to use. It's designed to be fun and spark creative juices. It's designed for people to quickly throw down background music for their iMove or flash animation. It's designed to be a studio that is as portable as your PowerBook. And it looks to me like it absolutley kills on all counts.
Apple may SAY it's for everyone, but clearly it's entry-level. Even pros (like, Sheryl Crow in the video) can use entry-level tools sometimes.
Complaining about this is just silly. It's like complaining that the iMac isn't as powerful as the PowerMac G5. Get over it, or go buy Logic.
Quit your bitching.
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I am EXTREMELY happy with GB--for people who aren't pros or who are just starting out and need something easy, this will definitely do, based on what we saw in the keynote.
And it's part of iLife, just $49...for all 5 apps! That means just $10 for GarageBand more or less. Can't beat that, THANK YOU APPLE!! I kept reloading the Apple Store until it was back online and bought iLife immediately.
Interesting note: I went to download the midiman driver for Panther, and that page was down for several minutes. Maybe a coincidence, but I'm betting a lot of people went to that page to download or to see if it'd be compatible with GB!
And it's part of iLife, just $49...for all 5 apps! That means just $10 for GarageBand more or less. Can't beat that, THANK YOU APPLE!! I kept reloading the Apple Store until it was back online and bought iLife immediately.
Interesting note: I went to download the midiman driver for Panther, and that page was down for several minutes. Maybe a coincidence, but I'm betting a lot of people went to that page to download or to see if it'd be compatible with GB!
Yeah, something like iJam?
But I guess Garage Band isn't so bad. I think the name reflects amateur or indie musicians in a home setting....makes sense.
I'll tell you what I've been using....
Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 for PC.....
VERY NICE...But it's not on a MAC!!!
I have both...I want the Mac to be the work horse....
All I would need is midi out...nothing else...
Still can't wait to play with it...
CS...out
If the app allows people to waste time making bad music instead of watching TV, then I'm all for it.
The fact that it comes free with new hardware is great. But where were the hardware announcements? I though Macworld was about the Mac? Oh well. I'll get over this in five to six months.
instead of watching TV, then I'm all for it.The fact that it comes free with new hardware is great. But where were the hardware announcements? I though Macworld was about the Mac? Oh well. I'll get over this in five to six months.
Garage Band fits a niche that I've been looking for for a long time. My wife is a musician (2 CD's out); a pianist/singer/songwriter.
We've tried to find a simple, basic composition tool for her to get into the digital realm with; midi has just kicked our ass in terms of providing something that she, as a non-technical musician, can quickly understand, configure and do some work with.
All of the midi apps we have tried are much too complex.
Garageband will be perfect for her. And, once she's into it and understands how it works, she'll be ready to upgrade when they release the garageband 2 or garageband pro, which will contain a few more bells and whistles (such as midi-out).
But, the real head-scratcher for me was the lack of an announced interface for this device. I'm sorry, the mini-jack with a 1/4 inch adaptor is just not adequate. They need a simple usb/firewire based 2-track input with Microphone input and 1/4 input. This would have rocked. I assume some third-party will provide this...
But, as it stands, at $49, this is great.
We've tried to find a simple, basic composition tool for her to get into the digital realm with; midi has just kicked our ass in terms of providing something that she, as a non-technical musician, can quickly understand, configure and do some work with.
All of the midi apps we have tried are much too complex.
Garageband will be perfect for her. And, once she's into it and understands how it works, she'll be ready to upgrade when they release the garageband 2 or garageband pro, which will contain a few more bells and whistles (such as midi-out).
But, the real head-scratcher for me was the lack of an announced interface for this device. I'm sorry, the mini-jack with a 1/4 inch adaptor is just not adequate. They need a simple usb/firewire based 2-track input with Microphone input and 1/4 input. This would have rocked. I assume some third-party will provide this...
But, as it stands, at $49, this is great.
Looks very cool. I'm already getting antsy to play with it. It may not be a solution for professionals, but it sounds perfect for normal users looking for something to do with a few hours of spare time.
I'm personally looking for it to give me a beat to practice improv to. It could be a great practice tool for anyone playing an instrument (as John Mayer pointed out)
I'm personally looking for it to give me a beat to practice improv to. It could be a great practice tool for anyone playing an instrument (as John Mayer pointed out)
Geez, I can't believe the negativity. I'm a almost professional musician, I play all my instruments, have been at the whole musician thing since I was five, I use different Digidesign/Protools set ups, and like a previous poster who's also a musician I get a twinge to think there's idiots out there who'd think with Garageband they're a real musician... but they're NOT!!! However this app is GREAT for novices and dabbling... it's a cool app... it's NOT A PRO APP!!! And any moron thinking with one $50 app they are pro are going to in for a dose of reality likewise anyone thinking there should be one for $50... GET REAL (and get a life, whichever order you prefer).
This is a great app, even myself, who's struggles with the bear that is Protools or lesser foe Reason am looking forward to using this app. Why? IT'S BY APPLE!!! It's ease of use looks to be second to none, it'd be great as a sketchbook for musical ideas, etc. This app is a win-win people, stop grousing about it!
This is a great app, even myself, who's struggles with the bear that is Protools or lesser foe Reason am looking forward to using this app. Why? IT'S BY APPLE!!! It's ease of use looks to be second to none, it'd be great as a sketchbook for musical ideas, etc. This app is a win-win people, stop grousing about it!
OK...here's the interface I was hoping for...
M-Audio MobilePre USB Audio Interface
Anyone know if Garageband will record more than one track at a time?
M-Audio MobilePre USB Audio Interface
Anyone know if Garageband will record more than one track at a time?
yeah but this is essentially a $10 application. it doesn't even call itself a sequencer. why would anyone expect something that isn't a sequencer to well, have a sequencer in it? for those who say they need MIDI out why not invest in Logic Audio? no one says you need to buy Platinum. you can get Logic Audio for under $200 if you look around. i don't think you'll find a decent sequencer for $10. or go buy an issue of Computer Music magazine. they have a CD on every cover with a ton of free apps, even their own free MIDI sequencer with VST support and all!