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Frozone said:
Grits!!! :D The food talk is driving me insane! Now I want some nice buttery grits loaded with scrambled eggs, salt, bacon, and pepper.


Excuse me while I call the hospital to get a triple bypass...

Make that a quad bypass after last weekends Polish meal of cabbage soup, perogies, and kielbasa. I was asked by those at work if I had been cleared by the TSA after that meal. :D

Forgive me, but with grits - one might as well eat buttered sand!:D
 
Thanks Emerson and iGary. :D

Frozone ... posting it when I was drunk seemed like a good idea, but right now it doesn't seem quite as good. :p My eyes were red-rimmed and I look rather tired. (It's back on page 94).

iGary: I don't know much about hotels here except that I think hotel rates are generally high compared to most other countries, so I can't recommend any specific hotels. I can just recommend searching for the best rates on several online booking service. That's what I do when I travel. Perhaps you should bring Rob, so that he can pull you off of me if needed. ;)
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Excuse me while I call the hospital to get a triple bypass...

Make that a quad bypass after last weekends Polish meal of cabbage soup, perogies, and kielbasa. I was asked by those at work if I had been cleared by the TSA after that meal. :D

Forgive me, but with grits - one might as well eat buttered sand!:D

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That's like.....That's just.......Gah, i'm speechless!
 
gekko513 said:
Thanks Emerson and iGary. :D

Frozone ... posting it when I was drunk seemed like a good idea, but right now it doesn't seem quite as good. :p My eyes were red-rimmed and I look rather tired. (It's back on page 94).

iGary: I don't know much about hotels here except that I think hotel rates are generally high compared to most other countries, so I can't recommend any specific hotels. I can just recommend searching for the best rates on several online booking service. That's what I do when I travel. Perhaps you should bring Rob, so that he can pull you off of me if needed. ;)


The way I have it...we're only on page 69. Hehe, Funny number. :)
 
Grey Beard said:
OK Chip, and of course, all other dear readers who may, or may not find my dissertation pertinent to their situation. You can be thankful that my comment is brief if not terse.

(1) Face your fears, but do it anyway.
(2) Have faith in your own abilities.
(3) Listen to your 'inner voice'

And should Chip's or other Dear Readers hear that bell down the road, I'd urge them to read words far wiser than any of my random sarcasm. While this 1600's writing deals with the religious, those not following that path, read between the lines. It does contain profound insights.

Kevin
aka Grey Beard
(who ends his sermon here)

For whom the Bell Tolls


I think we all have heard those bells. Despite your protestations, I think you have lead a good life. For if you had not, you would not be as wise as your words have led us to believe. Through our pain, I do believe that there is comfort that is provided to others.

Our lives are filled with "should've, could've, would've" moments. You and I share untimely passing's (or maybe nearly so) of those that we cared about. The portrait you paint is one of a person that has seized the day - and enjoyed it to the fullest.

There are those like myself that have been caught between the twin swords of AIDS/HIV and growing older in a community that seems to relish in promiscuity and youth.

This past summer I had a customer that felt so good about the service I gave her, she gave me a hug or two that would pale for some guys. The guys I work with lamented that it was a hug wasted (she was model material); I looked it as an honest emotion between two people. It felt so good to be held with honest emotion, with no strings attached.

With each new dawn, I see my self better able to come to grips with what I have to face in life, and faced in life. And it is in no small part to you and others here.

The ability to have walked the shores of Lake Michigan on a warm October Sunday afternoon. To enjoy a Sunday dinner with the likes of Lee and Tim. Having a few brews as the White Sox beat the A's to be able to go on to the Series. To wake up the next morning with headlines like "Party likes it's 1959" - The Chicago Tribune.

Thanks to my sister and our October 2006 cruise, getting my first Passport. Maybe taking advantage of super cheap airfares to other countries, as I find them. A weekend in London would be nice. (I am lucky in that we can trade days off in the same week, which means that we can get 4 days off in a row.)

Kevin, I think you can see that I have chosen to take the bull by the horns. I now realize that I need to live each day as if it were my last. (drives my co-workers crazy with my mood swings <G>) As I pointed out in other posts; I have lost those that I care about in my 47 years to AIDS/HIV, drugs, suicide, heart disease, and so much more.

In regards to suicide, we as the survivors can not hold ourselves hostage to the pains that people we cared about - that drove them to that depth. In the end we can only live our lives to the fullest, in some strange way to show the others what could have been. A bitter sweet victory for sure.
 
From 'For whom the bell tolls'

Gentle People,
If anyone took the time to read the sermon, the quote that I think should be high lighted is:

No Man is an island, entire of itself;
Every Man is a piece of the continent,
a part of the main.

and dredging the pits of my memory;

I have loved me a man like my mama did,
I have loved me a man.
Tall and tender his hand like my daddy's were,
And a mind that understands.

A somewhat disjointed (does that mean 'no smoke') begining for a post that was to be about faith or the lack of it. The line; I have loved me a man, while thinking of my long passed on Buddy, caused me to realize that I have been 'in love' with a cadaver for thirty years. Morbid ? Damned right. His memory has been with me through good times and bad, often I'd not listen for a very long time. But, as the seasons pass, I know he'll return.

When he died, well bluntly committed suicide, he did so with a book in his hands. It was open at Romans 1, 24

==========================================================Therefore God gave them over in their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised, Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their woman exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with woman and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil, they disobey their parents; they are senseless , faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
==========================================================

My Buddy had recently come out to his parents, and they being of a religious bent, spat the proverbial dummy. My mate sought the comfort of his friends and as I was "too busy" to hear his call, I feel I was found lacking. He went around for a few days asking 'who would come to his funeral'

The rest as they say is history. It's actually a very big part of my history. From that day on, I could not accept that in the "early '70's" these teachings could take away a most beautiful and talented man. At just 21 years of age his short life was over. For a long time, so was mine.

I cannot, I will not follow any scripture that follows a doctrine such as that as detailed in Romans. I have over the years melded my own faith. An amalgam of Judaism, Shinto and Buddhism. In taking a little from each, I can learn the way we should all live (in a perfect world) the respect of ancestors and the respect of nature, and a belief, not so much as an after life, but in a reincarnate existence. Also the yin and yang, the karma and a balance that was missing before.

I have had all this in my heart and brain for so very long, and I hope that y'all will forgive me for sharing my shame on this thread. Oh, and for the curious, clowns do cry.

Sincerely,
Kevin
aka Grey Beard
 
Frozone said:
Haha, You should post a non-drunk one. :p I would hate for anyone to ever see me drunk. As crazy as I am non-drunk, I'd be OVA-Crazy while drunk. And OVA-Crazy in photos is just scary. LoL Post the photo! :p

Thought you did not drink....
 
scem0 said:
Same here. When I'm sober I do sluttyish things in clubs, imagine if I were drunk! I'd wake up in odd places with odd people. :p

_Emerson

One of the best times I had was 15+ years ago at a drug/alcohol free News Years Party. Looking at the photos from that night, one would think that everyone was three sheets to the wind...
 
Grey Beard said:
Gentle People,
If anyone took the time to read the sermon, the quote that I think should be high lighted is:

No Man is an island, entire of itself;
Every Man is a piece of the continent,
a part of the main.

and dredging the pits of my memory;

I have loved me a man like my mama did,
I have loved me a man.
Tall and tender his hand like my daddy's were,
And a mind that understands.

A somewhat disjointed (does that mean 'no smoke') begining for a post that was to be about faith or the lack of it. The line; I have loved me a man, while thinking of my long passed on Buddy, caused me to realize that I have been 'in love' with a cadaver for thirty years. Morbid ? Damned right. His memory has been with me through good times and bad, often I'd not listen for a very long time. But, as the seasons pass, I know he'll return.

When he died, well bluntly committed suicide, he did so with a book in his hands. It was open at Romans 1, 24

==========================================================Therefore God gave them over in their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised, Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their woman exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with woman and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil, they disobey their parents; they are senseless , faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
==========================================================

My Buddy has recently come out to his parents, and they being of a religious bent, spat the proverbial dummy. My mate sought the comfort of his friends and as I was "too busy" to hear his call, I feel was found lacking. He went around for a few days asking 'who would come to his funeral'

The rest as they say is history. It's actually a very big part of my history. From that day on, I could not accept that in the "early '70's" these teachings could take away a most beautiful and talented man. At just 21 years of age his short life was over. For a long time, so was mine.

I cannot, I will not follow any scripture that follows a doctrine such as that as detailed in Romans. I have over the years melded my own faith. An amalgam of Judaism, Shinto and Buddhism. In taking a little from each, I can learn the way we should all live (in a perfect world) the respect of ancestors and the respect of nature, and a belief, not so much as an after life, but in a reincarnate existence. Also the yin and yang, the karma and a balance that was missing before.

I have had all this in my heart and brain for so very long, and I hope that y'all will forgive me for sharing my shame on this thread. Oh, and for the curious, clowns do cry.

Sincerely,
Kevin
aka Grey Beard


If I could I would give you the biggest hug ever right now. That brought tears to my eyes. :(


Thought you did not drink....
I don't. Don't plan too either. I was just saying "if" :p
 
Grey Beard said:
Gentle People,
If anyone took the time to read the sermon, the quote that I think should be high lighted is:

No Man is an island, entire of itself;
Every Man is a piece of the continent,
a part of the main.

and dredging the pits of my memory;

I have loved me a man like my mama did,
I have loved me a man.
Tall and tender his hand like my daddy's were,
And a mind that understands.

A somewhat disjointed (does that mean 'no smoke') begining for a post that was to be about faith or the lack of it. The line; I have loved me a man, while thinking of my long passed on Buddy, caused me to realize that I have been 'in love' with a cadaver for thirty years. Morbid ? Damned right. His memory has been with me through good times and bad, often I'd not listen for a very long time. But, as the seasons pass, I know he'll return.

When he died, well bluntly committed suicide, he did so with a book in his hands. It was open at Romans 1, 24

==========================================================Therefore God gave them over in their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised, Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their woman exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with woman and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil, they disobey their parents; they are senseless , faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
==========================================================

My Buddy has recently come out to his parents, and they being of a religious bent, spat the proverbial dummy. My mate sought the comfort of his friends and as I was "too busy" to hear his call, I feel was found lacking. He went around for a few days asking 'who would come to his funeral'

The rest as they say is history. It's actually a very big part of my history. From that day on, I could not accept that in the "early '70's" these teachings could take away a most beautiful and talented man. At just 21 years of age his short life was over. For a long time, so was mine.

I cannot, I will not follow any scripture that follows a doctrine such as that as detailed in Romans. I have over the years melded my own faith. An amalgam of Judaism, Shinto and Buddhism. In taking a little from each, I can learn the way we should all live (in a perfect world) the respect of ancestors and the respect of nature, and a belief, not so much as an after life, but in a reincarnate existence. Also the yin and yang, the karma and a balance that was missing before.

I have had all this in my heart and brain for so very long, and I hope that y'all will forgive me for sharing my shame on this thread. Oh, and for the curious, clowns do cry.

Sincerely,
Kevin
aka Grey Beard

Kevin, if you failed to notice - you bring out the worst in me. At least in responses to this thread. :)
 
Grey Beard said:
My Buddy has recently come out to his parents, and they being of a religious bent, spat the proverbial dummy. My mate sought the comfort of his friends and as I was "too busy" to hear his call, I feel was found lacking. He went around for a few days asking 'who would come to his funeral'

The rest as they say is history. It's actually a very big part of my history. From that day on, I could not accept that in the "early '70's" these teachings could take away a most beautiful and talented man. At just 21 years of age his short life was over. For a long time, so was mine.

I cannot, I will not follow any scripture that follows a doctrine such as that as detailed in Romans. I have over the years melded my own faith. An amalgam of Judaism, Shinto and Buddhism. In taking a little from each, I can learn the way we should all live (in a perfect world) the respect of ancestors and the respect of nature, and a belief, not so much as an after life, but in a reincarnate existence. Also the yin and yang, the karma and a balance that was missing before.

I have had all this in my heart and brain for so very long, and I hope that y'all will forgive me for sharing my shame on this thread. Oh, and for the curious, clowns do cry.

Sincerely,
Kevin
aka Grey Beard

Kevin, you and I can not even begin to try and place blame for a wasted life on ourselves. Having been there before, it transcends "normal" beliefs. Sometimes vengeance. Other times seeking sympathy for something unseen or even perceived.

All we can do is point to ourselves as being survivors during the the darkest of times - in order to give hope to those that may feel that hope has left them behind.

You and I are survivors in different ways. It is that we have survived that many can find some future comfort in - if they will only hear our words.
 
Frozone said:
Yeah, He should be a motivational speaker. :D He's definitely got what it takes.


At least for myself, he has led his life to a different drummer. Something that I am now only now beginning to realize on so many levels.

Kevin, I know that you have painted a short future for yourself. And I have indicated the desire to hoist a pint with you. If for some reason the God's do not grant us that pleasure to meet face to face - I will still be proud to be "home" with you hoisting a pint in honor of your your words and deeds (even though you think your deeds do not deserve that honor - IMO you will find that next "plain" of "happiness".
 
From my wrinkled little heart - Thank you.

Frozone said:
Yeah, He should be a motivational speaker. :D He's definitely got what it takes.
I'm very sorry Frozone, I'm limited to being a motivational writer. I've a degree of aphasia, and I can't find the right words and mix things up when I speak. But when I concentrate I can write OK, just a lot of corrections after proof reading. I wish the list had a spell checker. Even I can smile when thinking of me being a speaker, tears rolling down my face, soggy beard and sobbing my way through an address. Not a pretty sight.

But thank you very much for your kind words and thought. Looks like we'll both have tear soaked shirts today.

Kevin (with a reciprocated hug)
aka Grey Beard
 
Grey Beard said:
I'm very sorry Frozone, I'm limited to being a motivational writer. I've a degree of aphasia, and I can't find the right words and mix things up when I speak. But when I concentrate I can write OK, just a lot of corrections after proof reading. I wish the list had a spell checker. Even I can smile when thinking of me being a speaker, tears rolling down my face, soggy beard and sobbing my way through an address. Not a pretty sight.

But thank you very much for your kind words and thought. Looks like we'll both have tear soaked shirts today.

Kevin (with a reciprocated hug)
aka Grey Beard

Don't sell yourself short. You seem like myself, trying to hide our light under the bushel. The wealth of our experiences speaks volumes for many dealing with life.

I firmly believe that through my tough times (more of late), and my ability to weather the storms - some may find hope. As well as yours.

I am now just realizing a life of regrets - and trying to correct that. You on the other hand seem to have lived life to its fullest. Whether right or wrong in others eyes.
 
I would have liked to comment more on Grey Beards post, but I'm afraid it would send this thread straight to the "Politics, Religion, Social Issues" sub-forum.

It was certainly a thought provoking post.
 
Thanks Chip. I'm going off line for a while. I've been at the compter since 4.30 this morning and it's now 2.10pm, so I'd better go find some breakfast. Sorry again Frozone, no grits, they've put me back on a low fibre diet. The arseholes.
Kevin
aka Grey Beard
 
Grey Beard said:
I'm very sorry Frozone, I'm limited to being a motivational writer. I've a degree of aphasia, and I can't find the right words and mix things up when I speak. But when I concentrate I can write OK, just a lot of corrections after proof reading. I wish the list had a spell checker. Even I can smile when thinking of me being a speaker, tears rolling down my face, soggy beard and sobbing my way through an address. Not a pretty sight.

But thank you very much for your kind words and thought. Looks like we'll both have tear soaked shirts today.

Kevin (with a reciprocated hug)
aka Grey Beard

Well, writer or speaker, it's all the same. You can reach just as many, if not more, through writing as you can giving a speech. And, not only are you a great writer, but you seem to convey and express your feelings in a way which connects with others. So, speech or no speech, you still possess the root ability to motivate others.
 
gekko513 said:
I would have liked to comment more on Grey Beards post, but I'm afraid it would send this thread straight to the "Politics, Religion, Social Issues" sub-forum.

It was certainly a thought provoking post.


Maybe you should try...

Restraint is good....
 
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