scem0 said:Do we need a MR cuddle fest?
_Emerson
iGary definitely needs some attention. He's crabby.
I think his back is hurting him.
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iGary definitely needs some attention. He's crabby.
I think his back is hurting him.
leekohler said:iGary definitely needs some attention. He's crabby.
It's been a long day in front of the computer dealing with idiot just out of college photographers who think they know better than to use the 5-page preset list I put together for their D2X's. They just continue to fiddle with the effing settings.
Hash smoking hippies.
I'm up for a big man sandwich cuddle anyday.
Man sandwhich? Sure.iGary said:I'm up for a big man sandwich cuddle anyday.
I'm hungry. The first thing that popped into my head when I read this was an actual sandwhich. A man sandwhich. With three pounds of different meat and just as much different chesses. I make some damn good man sandwhiches.
iGary said:It's been a long day in front of the computer dealing with idiot just out of college photographers who think they know better than to use the 5-page preset list I put together for their D2X's. They just continue to fiddle with the effing settings.
Hash smoking hippies.
I'm up for a big man sandwich cuddle anyday.
Ok- but only if you like lots of mayo.
(That's it- I'm banned!
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Wish I saw this on Friday since I was in Stafford, VA until lastnight...it would have been better than all that rain and a 8 hr. car drive each way
leekohler said:Ok- but only if you like lots of mayo.
(That's it- I'm banned!
Don't forget the salamis
All this Sandwich talk reminds me of this restaraunt that's really close to me:
Mandler's
The Original Sausage Company
Their slogan is "Our's is 9 inches Long".
I might have to get one of their t-shirts. They deserve to sell some just for being so dirty.
_Emerson
Mandler's
The Original Sausage Company
Their slogan is "Our's is 9 inches Long".
I might have to get one of their t-shirts
. They deserve to sell some just for being so dirty._Emerson
So my mother thinks I have AIDS. First time we talk about me being gay since I came out spurred out of a discussion about my stomach pains. I ask her were the meds are, she gives them to me, asks me if I've had sex, because diarrhea is a warning sign of HIV, and told me to get tested, regardless of the fact that I've never had sex. She said it might be best to stay away from relationships because "its only a matter of time".
Hrmm...first time we've talked about it, and she's telling me I'm going to die. This makes me sad. Sorry to be a downer, but it's somethign that's bothering me.
Hrmm...first time we've talked about it, and she's telling me I'm going to die. This makes me sad. Sorry to be a downer, but it's somethign that's bothering me.
Guitarius: Well you sure have a reason to be bothered. I would say that your mother's reaction is rude in many ways. On the other hand, at least she did talk about the issue. A lot of people aren't very educated when it comes to homosexuality in general and to HIV and AIDS. Perhaps you can use this as an opportunity to open a dialog with her if you have an interest in improving your relation.
Artful Dodger said:Wish I saw this on Friday since I was in Stafford, VA until lastnight...it would have been better than all that rain and a 8 hr. car drive each way
*yay!!!*
Guitarius said:
i think that it's a normal parents reaction - educated or not. when i told mum that i was a big fag, she said it was ok with her, as long as i wasn't bed hopping. i told her she was about 5 years too late with that advice, and she's always at me to get tested for everything. I think even when logic tells them that you'll be ok, parental instincts kick in and they go right to the worst possible scenario. I think it's important to remember that our parents grew up with gay/lesbians in the 70's and 80's when AIDS was the gay disease. So as soon as they hear that you're gay, they start to fear the worst. Hopefully, their fear will pass. My mum now pretends that she is ok with me being gay.
None taken. My entire family is crazy. Like...actually crazy. My grandma has been in and out of mental hospitals in her younger years, but has been doing well as of late. She's tried to kill herself many times, and almost succeeded once. She has alzheimer's, so she's heading downhill. My grandpa was a military man, and a drunk. No matter what, he always stuck by my grandma's side, so maybe he was crazy as well. My mom had to grow up in that house, so you can just about imagine what it did to her. Her sister is a lesbian, and kind of a bitch. Her partner is just as big of a bitch as her, and her ex-husband (my uncle) is a drunk. My dad was a druggie rock-star that did nothing with his life, and my step-father is the complete opposite. He's wound up way too tight. My whole family is crazy. I don't even want to get into my siblings. I need to get out of this house.MontyZ said:
Sorry to unload all that, but I just want you to understand where all of that comes from.
OMG, sounds like you're living in an insane asylum. Well, the sooner you can get out of there and on your own, the better. I wouldn't take what your mother says seriously or to heart. Instead of her trying to make you seem crazy because you're gay, confront her on her own questionable mental health. Suggest she see a psychiatrist or get some kind of therapy. Give her this advice several times a week, or everytime she gives you bad advice.Guitarius said:
Guitarius said:
Does she know you've never had sex? I suppose if she does, she's quite misinformed about that whole messy AIDS thing, and equates AIDS as just another part of homosexuality. But it seems from outward appearances, at least based upon the limited info, that maybe she does care, unlike what others have suggested.
Nevertheless, therapy for both of you together might be a good idea.
OK Dave, you're not having too good a time of it recently are you. I agree with Aquajet in that joint sessions with a psychiatrist or the like is a very good idea. (not advocating the use of cannabis, much as it may sound) So you've told her you've never had gay sex, perhaps if the situation arises, talk to her about what gay sexual activities you have experienced. Hell, while you're at it talk openly about all sexual activity, gay and straight. A sympathetic shrink would be a good intermediary and as your Mam is also a medical professional if they establish a rapport you've hit first base.
Should your mother have a sense of humour, say that your gut pains are not an indication of pregnancy, and that immaculate conception is not a fetish on your dance card.
Where does you step dad it in with all this. I assume that they will have talked? If not, then she's bottling it up and to move on, discussion is a must.
Feel free to email or pm me should you wish.
Kevin,
aka Grey Beard
Should your mother have a sense of humour, say that your gut pains are not an indication of pregnancy, and that immaculate conception is not a fetish on your dance card.
Where does you step dad it in with all this. I assume that they will have talked? If not, then she's bottling it up and to move on, discussion is a must.
Feel free to email or pm me should you wish.
Kevin,
aka Grey Beard
The way I see it, Dave has 2 options. Make peace with his family or move away for good. The former being a very aggressive thing to do, because your parents won't hear anything unless you scream it in their ears with a megaphone. You know... that would be an option, bring a megaphone into the house and give them no choice but to comfront their immaturity. Whatever the choice you make, Dave, I'm confident that you'll come out a stronger person for it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger .
_Emerson
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scem0 said:The way I see it, Dave has 2 options. Make peace with his family or move away for good. The former being a very aggressive thing to do, because your parents won't hear anything unless you scream it in their ears with a megaphone. You know... that would be an option, bring a megaphone into the house and give them no choice but to comfront their immaturity. Whatever the choice you make, Dave, I'm confident that you'll come out a stronger person for it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
_Emerson
Rob moved away from Lousiana the first chance he got (went to college in Vermont). He loves his family, but did not see any place for him in the culture there.
On another note, I'm not averse to dark-haired blokes, either:
Rowwr.
I honestly don't think she believes I haven't had sex. Maybe it's just as well. Moving away and ridding myself of them once and for all isn't exactly an option. When the time is right, I'll talk to her again.
A good friend of mine is almost 30. He's been in a committed, monogomous relationship for 5 years. It's taken his parents 12 years to be able to accept it. I guess it just takes time. And I've got time. Just not as much as it might take.
A good friend of mine is almost 30. He's been in a committed, monogomous relationship for 5 years. It's taken his parents 12 years to be able to accept it. I guess it just takes time. And I've got time. Just not as much as it might take.
My Mom is fully accepting of my homosexuality, but she is afraid that I will be corrupted by the sex-oriented nature of the gay community. Bah... I need to have her read some transcendentalist essays so she understands what motivates me to think for myself. I make decisions based on logic and my own personal feelings. If I have sex with someone, it will be because it feels right, not because other people want me to, or because I'm part of a community that is a bit sex obsessed. It will be an act of love.
When I came out she made me read a book on staying pure within the gay community and she tried to make me read another, more sexually oriented book, but I refused because she needs to show a little more trust in me. I've done nothing to earn that kind of mistrust. I'm the last person in the world who would have unprotected sex with strangers, and she knows that.
I appreciate her protectiveness though.
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When I came out she made me read a book on staying pure within the gay community and she tried to make me read another, more sexually oriented book, but I refused because she needs to show a little more trust in me. I've done nothing to earn that kind of mistrust. I'm the last person in the world who would have unprotected sex with strangers, and she knows that.
I appreciate her protectiveness though
._Emerson
you know G.. if you give it enough time, she'll either get over it, or move on. at the end of the day, you'll always be her son fag or straight. just remember to always be yourself
DodgyThong said:you know G.. if you give it enough time, she'll either get over it, or move on. at the end of the day, you'll always be her son fag or straight. just remember to always be yourself
This is good advice. Guitarius, when you move out and go back to school it would be a good idea to put lots of space between you and your parents for the time being. Give them time to sort things out in their minds. And give yourself a break from all the negativity.
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