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scem0 said:
... rich private white school ...
I don't think a rich private white school is less naughty than average. Things may have a prettier facade, but I thinks that's it.
 
gekko513 said:
I don't think a rich private white school is less naughty than average. Things may have a prettier facade, but I thinks that's it.

Yeah, I'd think they'd be about the same, but that goes to show you that children will do what children do no matter how hard you try to repress it. Children looking for naughty gay stories will read them whether they are at MacRumors or somewhere else.

Goodmorning, Lee. You slept through a storm, of sorts ;).

_Emerson
 
scem0 said:
Yeah, I'd think they'd be about the same, but that goes to show you that children will do what children do no matter how hard you try to repress it. Children looking for naughty gay stories will read them whether they are at MacRumors or somewhere else.

Goodmorning, Lee. You slept through a storm, of sorts ;).

_Emerson

Hi sweetie. Did you read my rant?

Try to behave yourself or I'll sit you in the corner. ;)
 
Yeah, I read your rant and I agree with you 100% - we need to stand up for what we are and fight for our freedom to be ourselves. I'm impressed with the whole band thing, what part of this band were you?

I always wish that I had learnt to play piano during elementary school or high school. I consider myself to have good rythm and timing in regards to music, but I've never pursued such things. I've been singing all my life, but I'm no good and I know it. Singing is like dancing though, it's not about being good, it's about enjoying yourself. I'm one of those people who can't listen to music without singing along.

_Emerson
 
scem0 said:
Yeah, I read your rant and I agree with you 100% - we need to stand up for what we are and fight for our freedom to be ourselves. I'm impressed with the whole band thing, what part of this band were you?

I always wish that I had learnt to play piano during elementary school or high school. I consider myself to have good rythm and timing in regards to music, but I've never pursued such things. I've been singing all my life, but I'm no good and I know it. Singing is like dancing though, it's not about being good, it's about enjoying yourself. I'm one of those people who can't listen to music without singing along.

_Emerson

I was the singer. And I won't send you a tape (god- we used cassettes back then) too many nasty guitars for you. :)

Umm- try GarageBand. I have friend who's addicted to it now.
 
Oooh a singer, I love that. I think it'd be safe to assume that you don't sound like Mariah? ;)

As for Garageband, that'll be one of the first things on my list of things to do once I get my powerbook. Hopefully they will come out on the 19th as rumored.

<crosses fingers>

I was hoping for an Intel-processor powerbook, but I'm not nerdy enough to care anymore. All I really plan on doing now that I'm getting out of 'Design and Technology' at my school, and into 'Design and Management', the only thing I plan on doing on my computer is listen to music, email, word process, internet, etc.

_Emerson
 
scem0 said:
Oooh a singer, I love that. I think it'd be safe to assume that you don't sound like Mariah? ;)

As for Garageband, that'll be one of the first things on my list of things to do once I get my powerbook. Hopefully they will come out on the 19th as rumored.

<crosses fingers>

I was hoping for an Intel-processor powerbook, but I'm not nerdy enough to care anymore. All I really plan on doing now that I'm getting out of 'Design and Technology' at my school, and into 'Design and Management', the only thing I plan on doing on my computer is listen to music, email, word process, internet, etc.

_Emerson

And a PowerBook will do nicely. :) No- I don't sound like Mariah. I'm a baritone. :)
 
Check out the end of 'My All' - Mariah sings in the baritone range :eek: - lowest recorded note, so I suppose it's possible, however unlikely, that you do sound like her. :D

I can't say I'm a big fan of baritones, sorry :(. The only baritone I can think of in all my iTunes is Gosh Groban. Having popera is kind of embarassing, but he really does have a nice timbre to his voice. His rendition of 'Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring' is excellent and 'To Where You Are' is a pretty decent song, despite the horrible lyrics. But baritones/bassos are actually kind of rare in (popular) music, so many tenors...

Actually, did you know that a Baritone stole the crown from Mariah for highest note ever recorded? Adam Lopez, a guy whose music is horrible, has her schooled when it comes to range. He sings down into the Bass range, and up into his whistle register above any person in the world. A medical wonder, for sure.

Ah, I'm feeling really good this morning, or evening if you are on my schedule. I got a really good jog in, I didn't take many breaks and it was the perfect temperature. I'll fall asleep soon, and be well rested for the club tonight :). I'm thoroughly excited for tonight. I'll most definitely be in a dancing mood.

On that note (a pun, exciting), I think I'll go to bed. Goodnight Lee, and all you freshly awoken people. :)

_Emerson
 
Am I hallucinating, or is scem0 BANNED? Banning him just isn't the right decision (definitely not one that will solve the gaythread's "problems", if any). Didn't he promise to keep it down?
I hope you (mods) consider undoing this.
 
noaccess said:
Am I hallucinating, or is scem0 BANNED? I think he promised to keep it down, so banning him just doesn't appear to be a good decision.
I hope you (mods) consider undoing this.
Now we'll start a petition thread for the Unbanning of scem0
 
leekohler said:
While I agree things got a little carried away in this thread and it needs to be toned down, this is the part of your post I vehemently disagree with. Coming from extremely conservative Ohio, I can tell you that being exactly who I am is what got me through it. If you haven't caught on by now, I can be quite the bulldozer. I could give a crap what anyone thinks of me and make no concessions just because an area is conservative. When I was in school in a small college town in Ohio, I made a point of being loud, out and proud. I spoke in classes and at protests and had a punk band. The band got quite graphic onstage as well-think of the famous Bowie/Mick Ronson photo from the seventies and magnify that times ten. That was during the Reagan/Bush years too. While I think many people were shocked, and the crowds at our shows were small at first- we ended up being so popular by the end of my time there that lines would form around the block for our gigs (even with tons of frat boys, no lie). My parents came to our very last show and were amazed. They said, "How in the world did you do this?" My answer was by being exactly who I am and not hiding a thing.

Point is- I don't think we do ourselves any favors by trying to make others comfortable. Do I need to broadcast a video from my bedroom? No. But sooner or later, people are going to have to deal with us on our terms and agree to some sort of mutual respect. Life is too damn short to worry about what someone else may think of you. I believe we cheat ourselves and others when we try to make ourselves "palatable" to the mainstream world.

Whoa! Ok, I'm ranting. :) Love you guys!

I'm just a breeder, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Smack me down if I am wrong. But it seems to me that homosexuals absolutely need to come out of the closet and live "in our faces" if they want to someday be equal. It's been my experience that the people who are most likely to support gay rights are those who actually know gay people. Policy and philosophical debate just cannot compare to personal experience in terms of its power to change people's minds. I think that to stay in the closet is actually counterproductive for the "movement." The sooner you can start coming up to people and just saying straight up (no pun intended) who your are, the sooner those people start to see that you're not that different from them. If you live in secrecy the stereotypes and preconceptions never get challenged.
 
fklehman said:
I'm just a breeder, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Smack me down if I am wrong. But it seems to me that homosexuals absolutely need to come out of the closet and live "in our faces" if they want to someday be equal. It's been my experience that the people who are most likely to support gay rights are those who actually know gay people. Policy and philosophical debate just cannot compare to personal experience in terms of its power to change people's minds. I think that to stay in the closet is actually counterproductive for the "movement." The sooner you can start coming up to people and just saying straight up (no pun intended) who your are, the sooner those people start to see that you're not that different from them. If you live in secrecy the stereotypes and preconceptions never get challenged.
I would do that, but I live in little Mormon town USA. Although, I've heard rumors about other persons being gay and that, one of them I did know and he knew I was and all that. Anyways, its just more of the fact of who you know, and what can/may or may not happen. Otherwise I would wear a gay pride t-shirt around. But its the persons I know and that. People lose respect just because of the justifications on their own perspective ideas. Even if they aren't right, they still hold them to their own values and pressure and hold it against you. Make sense? That's just why I won't.
 
Hey what's up with Em being banned. I thought everyone kissed and made up.

We can't have the gay thread without Scem0!

Maybe we should all take up Chip's offer for the .Mac group. I also have a .Mac account so i could also set it up. Give me a week or two till my broadband is up at home and i'll post a thread with details (unless you could do it sooner Chip?)

Then we could all say what we want without censorship.

What do you guys think? I really think we should do this. Then this thread can be what we want it to be.

Edit:
Seems like i can set it up, sign up one person and they can refer others, so any volunteers? Lee? Chip? Kevin? iGary? And it looks like people in the group don't need to be .Mac members

Suggestions for names?

theGayWay ?
 
edesignuk said:
Before this does get out of hand, relax, he'll be back soon enough. It's nothing permanent.
I remember my first banning... Ahh how that day went by. I posted a topic that should have been else where, but they closed the sub-forum so I just posted it in Community, they banned me, I asked why, told them I didn't know that there was a reason they blocked the sub-forum where it should have been, so all in all, the ban was lifted from me.
 
fklehman said:
I'm just a breeder, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Smack me down if I am wrong. But it seems to me that homosexuals absolutely need to come out of the closet and live "in our faces" if they want to someday be equal. It's been my experience that the people who are most likely to support gay rights are those who actually know gay people. Policy and philosophical debate just cannot compare to personal experience in terms of its power to change people's minds. I think that to stay in the closet is actually counterproductive for the "movement." The sooner you can start coming up to people and just saying straight up (no pun intended) who your are, the sooner those people start to see that you're not that different from them. If you live in secrecy the stereotypes and preconceptions never get challenged.

Thank you.
 
" I dunno hey, bloody homos, going round upsetting all these religious nuts ...oh wait, carry on "

The above quote was taken from the political / religious forum and was posted by edesignuk yesterday, a MR mod, who I would surmise is supposed to lead by example. The emoticons didn't transfer but were they there to camouflage the true emotion of the post? If so, then I shouldn't be surprised at the mod's kneejerk action in the banning of scemO.

I, along with many others, I would opine, consider it 'unfortunate' but that is now history. It makes me think of all the other repressed minorities, from the present gays, back through to the Jews, Blacks and other religious groups thru history and that is a very sad fact of life.

While Emerson's posts were overt, I agree. Given the depth of feelings that were being expressed at that time, I don't think unexpected. I had read into the postings that all of our expressions were to be moderated. And yes, a pertinent pun. I do not know if any direct contact was made between the mods and scemO, but in what I believed to be enlightened times, and on a site I'd considered progressive, I am most disappointed in his banning, albeit short term or more perminent.

Kevin
aka Grey Beard
 
leekohler said:
Actually, (forgive me scem0) I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Everybody needs a time out once in a while. My little cutey will be back soon enough. ;)
He will, in a few days :)
leekohler said:
It's cool, he'll be back- you know I love ya edesignuk. :)
ok....that's good....I think ;)

:p
 
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