Google-Motorola "Phone X"

[daveathall]

This thread has convinced me about the awesomeness of plastic.

Going to replace the following with the plastic..

1. Glass cups => plastic cups
2. Fine China => plastic plate
3. Silverware => plastic forks, spoons, and knifes
4. Rolex watch => plastic casio watch with lots of functions
5. Bike => plastic bike
6. Tennis Racket => plastic racket
7. Jewelry (bling bling) => plastic jewelry with no bling

The discussion had turned to the durability and shock resistance of the two (Plastic and aluminium), not which was "awesome" or not. You did read it didn't you?

But lets take one of your discussion points anyway.

plastic casio watch with lots of functions

A Casio G Shock is marketed and generally thought of as highly durable and shockproof, now seeing as you particularly quoted that watch, you, will of course be able to tell us all, which all aluminium cased watch is more durable and shockproof than a G Shock?

From the rest of your list most of those that have an alternative in plastic are due to the fact that they are more durable. Admittedly, we used to have aluminium plates and cups in the army, but they were replaced because plastic was more durable. I am not sure if knives and forks can be made out of aluminium because they would bend, they can be made out of plastic though.

You aren't putting an iPhone in the same category as fine china, jewellery, Rolex watch etc are you? Ha, ha ha ha, no, not even you would do that.

 

[cynics]

1. The flimsy plastic battery cover is of the same flimsy plastic used in the frame.

2. Focus on where you said plastic bends with less force. Now apply that simple idea to my previously posted picture showing how that puts more pressure on glass during a fall.

3. 128. And by the way, there are tons of other reviews online saying the same thing.

4. Go buy one of each and test

5. You can compare because you already said plastic requires less force to be deformed.

6. I could say the GS3 currently has a problem with catching on fire... Anyone can pick bad ones out of the batch, and that is exactly what you are doing.

7. But by deforming the frame that much, it would clearly put more stress on the glass.

8. #3. Although you may not be ignoring it as you said you skimmed it. Plus as I mentioned in number 3, many credible online reviews say the same thing, that the iPhone 5 has superior build quality compared to the plastic GS3. So it looks as though everyone is really saying the same thing as me...

1. It more then likely is the same plastic so I agree with that. However its not utilized in the same way. Try to bend that plastic back in any other direction and it will be very very difficult.

2. It CAN bend with less force if you are comparing the back cover. Just like it aluminum can bend with less force. For many years and still currently electrical wire is made out of aluminum. It's just depends on the application its designed for. Although I don't own a galaxy phone I know they don't bend easily just like the iPhone. Neither are designed to be bent. The frame on a galaxy phone is rigid, its not like its made out of nerf.

3. We are talking strength of the device frames (why? I don't know lol). Premium feel is something I agreed that the iPhone 5 has. Which I wouldn't say its "amazing" or anything. What feels more premium an aluminum soda can or plastic soda bottle?

4. Lol no thanks.

5. Depends on how its constructed. Same applies to aluminum. Plus it just depends on where the force is put on the glass. Drop either face up and the glass is less likely to break then face down. If you put something with no give between glass and a hard object it might as will not be there. This is the point of phone cases. A softer material to absorb shock. Drop the glass from a phone on a concrete floor one with aluminum over the concrete one with plastic on the concrete. Which is a harder surface and more likely to break the glass? Now do the same thing with the aluminum and plastic on the glass instead of the floor.

6. There are thread after thread of galaxy's catching on fire like there are iPhone 5's bending. Google imagine search and there are hundreds of different pics of bent iPhones. Searching phones catching on fire I get more iPhone hits then anything else. But I agree that can happen with anything with a battery.

7. It will but if the glass doesn't break what's the difference. One phone is broken (iPhone) the other isn't (S3). Granted the iPhone may still be useable but most would consider that a loss.

8. Premium feel doesn't equal durability. Which is what we are talking about here. My tag watch has a premium feel, I don't take it camping lol.

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Btw I don't own either phone in question but I generally prefer (NOT ALWAYS) plastic. I do a lot of back packing and plastic is generally more durable and more importantly more durable per pound vs metal including aluminum. But not always, like a carabiner which is aluminum but an aluminum alloy which is a lot. And a flash light which I have bent and busted before.

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This thread has convinced me about the awesomeness of plastic.

Going to replace the following with the plastic..

1. Glass cups => plastic cups
2. Fine China => plastic plate
3. Silverware => plastic forks, spoons, and knifes
4. Rolex watch => plastic casio watch with lots of functions
5. Bike => plastic bike
6. Tennis Racket => plastic racket
7. Jewelry (bling bling) => plastic jewelry with no bling

We are talking about durability and strength and you bring up fine china, glass and jewelry?

 

[sentinelsx]

This thread has convinced me about the awesomeness of plastic.

Going to replace the following with the plastic..

1. Glass cups => plastic cups
2. Fine China => plastic plate
3. Silverware => plastic forks, spoons, and knifes
4. Rolex watch => plastic casio watch with lots of functions
5. Bike => plastic bike
6. Tennis Racket => plastic racket
7. Jewelry (bling bling) => plastic jewelry with no bling

Folks, this is what happens when the internet gets to you and common sense flees.

 

[skratch77]

Folks, this is what happens when the internet gets to you and common sense flees.

1950 Mercedes all metal bumpers and panels---now all bumpers are made out of the same plastic as the gs4!!!

looks like Mercedes is junk too

 

[sentinelsx]

1950 Mercedes all metal bumpers and panels---now all bumpers are made out of the same plastic as the gs4!!!

looks like Mercedes is junk too

Not just Mercedes. That new Boeing or Airbus hauling us around the world is made with composite materials. I guess some people should start considering buying an old plane as well

 

[jrswizzle]

Personally, here's to hoping the next Nexus has a carbon-fiber polymer body with a sapphire screen - I'd pay the extra money, if any, it would cost.

 

[hyteckit]

The discussion had turned to the durability and shock resistance of the two (Plastic and aluminium), not which was "awesome" or not. You did read it didn't you?

Because durability and shock resistance is the only thing we should considered? What about heat resistance and tensile strength?


Like I've said, if wanted durability, I would replace my glass cups and fine china with plastic cups and plastic plates.

You guys are just making up silly arguments, so I'm coming up with silly responses.

People like Aluminum devices and find it to have a more premium feel to plastic. People are willing to pay more for Aluminum devices.

That is why most high-end laptops are made of Aluminum or metal alloy, while cheap laptops are made from plastic.

 

[hyteckit]

If you guys are so concern with durability, I suggest getting a phone with a tiny screen.

The glass screen is probably the weakest part of the smartphone.

A 3.5" screen is more durable than 5" screen.


Arguing about the durability of plastic or aluminum on a smartphone and ignoring the glass screen is silly.

If I drop my phone, I'm pretty sure the first thing I worry about breaking is the glass screen and not the plastic/aluminum body.

Have you guys not seen the hundreds and thousands of smart phone drop test? What often breaks? The glass screen.

What good a a freaking plastic phone if the glass screen is shattered?


If you want to argue about the durability of a smartphone, might as well argue the glass screen because that's most like the first thing that breaks if you drop it.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Latest rumor says Motorola may make this year's Nexus after all. Interesting. And with Google's commitment to putting in a great camera in the next Nexus, it could be cool.

 

[strausd]

1. It more then likely is the same plastic so I agree with that. However its not utilized in the same way. Try to bend that plastic back in any other direction and it will be very very difficult.

Except in a drop, it allows for a higher degree of deformation with less stress compared to aluminum of the same thickness.

2. It CAN bend with less force if you are comparing the back cover. Just like it aluminum can bend with less force. For many years and still currently electrical wire is made out of aluminum. It's just depends on the application its designed for. Although I don't own a galaxy phone I know they don't bend easily just like the iPhone. Neither are designed to be bent. The frame on a galaxy phone is rigid, its not like its made out of nerf.

Rigid to a point. But more rigid than aluminum? No.

And yes, materials can be designed and manufacturered in different ways to improve or decrease durability and strength.

3. We are talking strength of the device frames (why? I don't know lol). Premium feel is something I agreed that the iPhone 5 has. Which I wouldn't say its "amazing" or anything. What feels more premium an aluminum soda can or plastic soda bottle?

You are a total hypocrite. In the point above you mentioned how materials can be designed for different purposes, stating that the plastic on a Galaxy phone is of different quality essentially than the plastic used in a nerf gun (which you have yet to prove). And with making that point, now you will only apply the idea that materials can be designed for different uses when it fits your needs best. So go back and read where you said that materials are designed for different purposes, and remember that next time you contradict yourself. Because it is clear that the aluminum used in soda cans is FAR INFERIOR to that used in the iPhone 5.

5. Depends on how its constructed. Same applies to aluminum.

Yet you didn't mention this in your last post and instead posted on the assumption that this statement isn't true. How convenient. And I would also like to remind you that Apple has talked extensively about their manufacturing process for aluminum. And even unibody designs and how making a unibody design limits the amount of total pieces, which increases durability. Samsung not only uses a weaker material, but they break it up into multiple breakable pieces. Sort of a double whammy to durability on Samsungs side.

Plus it just depends on where the force is put on the glass. Drop either face up and the glass is less likely to break then face down. If you put something with no give between glass and a hard object it might as will not be there. This is the point of phone cases. A softer material to absorb shock. Drop the glass from a phone on a concrete floor one with aluminum over the concrete one with plastic on the concrete. Which is a harder surface and more likely to break the glass? Now do the same thing with the aluminum and plastic on the glass instead of the floor.

A soft case is meant to take the force of impact away from the frame. Once the frame takes force, that can cause the frame to deform based on the impact. As the frame deforms, it puts pressure on what is directly inside the frame. What is inside the frame? The glass. So yes, while a soft case will help, a soft frame with no case won't.

6. There are thread after thread of galaxy's catching on fire like there are iPhone 5's bending. Google imagine search and there are hundreds of different pics of bent iPhones. Searching phones catching on fire I get more iPhone hits then anything else. But I agree that can happen with anything with a battery.

Mainly because at this point, the company who takes the most heat for any mistake is Apple. Samsung, LG, HTC, and Apple could all make the exact same mistake. But Apple will be the company who's name would get thrown around more. This is why you got those search results. But it doesn't take away from the fact that a bending iPhone from the factory is probably less than 1 in a million.

7. It will but if the glass doesn't break what's the difference. One phone is broken (iPhone) the other isn't (S3). Granted the iPhone may still be useable but most would consider that a loss.

How can you even make that comparison when both phones were not put under the same amount of stress? That is just illogical.

8. Premium feel doesn't equal durability. Which is what we are talking about here. My tag watch has a premium feel, I don't take it camping lol.

Maybe premium feel is what you are talking about. I am trying to discuss durability and build quality, not the feel of something. That is why my quote from #128 specifically said build quality.

Btw I don't own either phone in question but I generally prefer (NOT ALWAYS) plastic. I do a lot of back packing and plastic is generally more durable and more importantly more durable per pound vs metal including aluminum. But not always, like a carabiner which is aluminum but an aluminum alloy which is a lot. And a flash light which I have bent and busted before.

I've got multiple computer cases laying around here with multiple broken pieces. All the broken pieces are plastic. My Mac Pro and MacBook Pro held up much better.

Heck, when I dropped my 2009 MacBook Pro (while it was inside a sleeve that was inside a computer bag) because the bag strap broke, take a guess at which part of the MBP broke. And remember that like 95% of the outside is aluminum, and the other 5% is plastic. And yes, it was the plastic that cracked. It also broke a plastic hinge directly to the right of the crack. Guess what parts were fine? The aluminum. In fact, it was the aluminum that kept it together and kept it from falling apart. It would have been so much worse if the whole thing was a bunch of disconnected plastic pieces like the GS3/4.

We are talking about durability and strength and you bring up fine china, glass and jewelry?

You're talking about the feel of something, remember?


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If you guys are so concern with durability, I suggest getting a phone with a tiny screen.

The glass screen is probably the weakest part of the smartphone.

A 3.5" screen is more durable than 5" screen.


Arguing about the durability of plastic or aluminum on a smartphone and ignoring the glass screen is silly.

If I drop my phone, I'm pretty sure the first thing I worry about breaking is the glass screen and not the plastic/aluminum body.

Have you guys not seen the hundreds and thousands of smart phone drop test? What often breaks? The glass screen.

What good a a freaking plastic phone if the glass screen is shattered?


If you want to argue about the durability of a smartphone, might as well argue the glass screen because that's most like the first thing that breaks if you drop it.

Yes I agree, glass is generally the first thing to break. But why? I posted a picture earlier describing how the frame actually can determine how much stress is put on the glass when dropped.


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Latest rumor says Motorola may make this year's Nexus after all. Interesting. And with Google's commitment to putting in a great camera in the next Nexus, it could be cool.

I am very excited for the next Nexus. I am starting to have the same feelings towards Google as you. I have my fourth replacement Nexus 4 on the way.

I am currently using my second one, which has some back light bleeding. So I ordered a replacement, and this new one has the exact same problem. I told Google I just want to send in this new one they most recently sent me so I don't have to waste time transferring my data to a phone with the exact same problem. But they told me I have to if I want to get another replacement. I absolutely hate their support.

 

[daveathall]

Because durability and shock resistance is the only thing we should considered?

In the context of the discussion taking place? Yes. You just moved the goal posts.

Like I've said, if wanted durability, I would replace my glass cups and fine china with plastic cups and plastic plates.

No, you never said that! You said you would replace a number of items because of the "awesomeness of plastic", you never mentioned durability at all.

Here is what you said;

This thread has convinced me about the awesomeness of plastic.

Going to replace the following with the plastic..

1. Glass cups => plastic cups
2. Fine China => plastic plate
3. Silverware => plastic forks, spoons, and knifes
4. Rolex watch => plastic casio watch with lots of functions
5. Bike => plastic bike
6. Tennis Racket => plastic racket
7. Jewelry (bling bling) => plastic jewelry with no bling

Like I've said, if wanted durability, I would replace my glass cups and fine china with plastic cups and plastic plates.

If it was durability that you wanted, why wouldn't you use aluminium?

so I'm coming up with silly responses.

Agreed. You do it quite often.

People like Aluminum devices and find it to have a more premium feel to plastic. People are willing to pay more for Aluminum devices.

I agree, (although others opinions vary) I find aluminium more tactile, I have never argued against this fact, others MMV, but that was not the discussion anyway until you brought it up out of the blue.



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[cynics]

Except in a drop, it allows for a higher degree of deformation with less stress compared to aluminum of the same thickness.


Rigid to a point. But more rigid than aluminum? No.

And yes, materials can be designed and manufacturered in different ways to improve or decrease durability and strength.


You are a total hypocrite. In the point above you mentioned how materials can be designed for different purposes, stating that the plastic on a Galaxy phone is of different quality essentially than the plastic used in a nerf gun (which you have yet to prove). And with making that point, now you will only apply the idea that materials can be designed for different uses when it fits your needs best. So go back and read where you said that materials are designed for different purposes, and remember that next time you contradict yourself. Because it is clear that the aluminum used in soda cans is FAR INFERIOR to that used in the iPhone 5.



Yet you didn't mention this in your last post and instead posted on the assumption that this statement isn't true. How convenient. And I would also like to remind you that Apple has talked extensively about their manufacturing process for aluminum. And even unibody designs and how making a unibody design limits the amount of total pieces, which increases durability. Samsung not only uses a weaker material, but they break it up into multiple breakable pieces. Sort of a double whammy to durability on Samsungs side.




A soft case is meant to take the force of impact away from the frame. Once the frame takes force, that can cause the frame to deform based on the impact. As the frame deforms, it puts pressure on what is directly inside the frame. What is inside the frame? The glass. So yes, while a soft case will help, a soft frame with no case won't.


Mainly because at this point, the company who takes the most heat for any mistake is Apple. Samsung, LG, HTC, and Apple could all make the exact same mistake. But Apple will be the company who's name would get thrown around more. This is why you got those search results. But it doesn't take away from the fact that a bending iPhone from the factory is probably less than 1 in a million.


How can you even make that comparison when both phones were not put under the same amount of stress? That is just illogical.


Maybe premium feel is what you are talking about. I am trying to discuss durability and build quality, not the feel of something. That is why my quote from #128 specifically said build quality.



I've got multiple computer cases laying around here with multiple broken pieces. All the broken pieces are plastic. My Mac Pro and MacBook Pro held up much better.

Heck, when I dropped my 2009 MacBook Pro (while it was inside a sleeve that was inside a computer bag) because the bag strap broke, take a guess at which part of the MBP broke. And remember that like 95% of the outside is aluminum, and the other 5% is plastic. And yes, it was the plastic that cracked. It also broke a plastic hinge directly to the right of the crack. Guess what parts were fine? The aluminum. In fact, it was the aluminum that kept it together and kept it from falling apart. It would have been so much worse if the whole thing was a bunch of disconnected plastic pieces like the GS3/4.


You're talking about the feel of something, remember?


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Yes I agree, glass is generally the first thing to break. But why? I posted a picture earlier describing how the frame actually can determine how much stress is put on the glass when dropped.


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I am very excited for the next Nexus. I am starting to have the same feelings towards Google as you. I have my fourth replacement Nexus 4 on the way.

I am currently using my second one, which has some back light bleeding. So I ordered a replacement, and this new one has the exact same problem. I told Google I just want to send in this new one they most recently sent me so I don't have to waste time transferring my data to a phone with the exact same problem. But they told me I have to if I want to get another replacement. I absolutely hate their support.

Your twisting what I'm saying.

Deformation is shock absorption. Shock is what shatters glass. I posted a picture of a deformed phone with the glass actually bending! I used an iPhone as the example because there are no pics of permanently deformed plastic phones.

I've said multiple times in this thread the iPhone has a premium FEEL. And that's where the benefits stop. Remember that post? I said it blocks low power RF?

I said nerf, that is foam btw. How do I need to prove foam isn't plastic? I did not say nerf "gun" whatever that is.

I've said the aluminum used in an iPhone is closer to food grade aluminum compared to stronger aluminum alloys or cast aluminum like used in carabiners, firearms, automobiles, etc. Those aluminums do not bend, they break/crack.

I even said that deformation isn't a bad thing in the iPhones favor which is why I posted a picture of a bent iPhone with glass that wasnt broken.

I'm NOT talking about the feel of plastic being better. I never said that and even said aluminum feels better. Multiple times btw.

There is no correlation between FEEL and durability though. Do your cheap plastic case hold up? Probably not. When I was in the military we never had a problem with quality plastic cases and I guarantee you they saw much more abuse then any one person could do in a lifetime. Our computers were plastic and magnesium (toughbook). Firearms were aluminum alloy and steel, break/crack before they bend. Some of those things felt premium some did not, regardless they were all durable.

Maybe I said something that made you think I was talking about just the feel. I didn't mean too, I thought we were talking about physical strengths of plastic and aluminum.

 

[hyteckit]

I've said the aluminum used in an iPhone is closer to food grade aluminum compared to stronger aluminum alloys or cast aluminum like used in carabiners, firearms, automobiles, etc. Those aluminums do not bend, they break/crack.

I even said that deformation isn't a bad thing in the iPhones favor which is why I posted a picture of a bent iPhone with glass that wasnt broken.

And you know this because?

50 million iphone 5's sold and 100 reported issue with aluminum phone bending.

Sounds like a manufacturing defect of way less than 1%.

If it was a major problem, Apple would be losing tons of money from replacing the devices.

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In the context of the discussion taking place? Yes. You just moved the goal posts.

I didn't move the goal post. The goal post was already moved before I joined in the discussion.

In the context of the discussion, arguing about the durability of plastic as a benefit for smartphone is silly, considering the weakest part of the smartphone would probably be the glass screen.

That should be the context of the discussion.

Not plastic vs. aluminum, but how a plastic smartphone is somehow more durable than a smartphone made from aluminum.

I've seen many drop test where the Galaxy S3/Note screen broke and the iPhone 5 came out fine. Both the iPhone 5 and Galaxy were scratch and dinged up.

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iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3 Drop Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5q5TRuAsY

Aluminum is great. Suck it Aluminum haters.

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Heck, when I dropped my 2009 MacBook Pro (while it was inside a sleeve that was inside a computer bag) because the bag strap broke, take a guess at which part of the MBP broke. And remember that like 95% of the outside is aluminum, and the other 5% is plastic. And yes, it was the plastic that cracked. It also broke a plastic hinge directly to the right of the crack. Guess what parts were fine? The aluminum. In fact, it was the aluminum that kept it together and kept it from falling apart. It would have been so much worse if the whole thing was a bunch of disconnected plastic pieces like the GS3/4.

Funny thing. A similar situation happened to me. It was my first Aluminum PowerBook. Had a Ti-Book before it. My laptop strap broke and my laptop fell to the ground from about 2-3 feet. Nothing broke. Just a small ding on the corner.


MacBook Air torture test. Don't try this with a cheap plastic laptop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_0CN-12npY

I don't think any laptop made of plastic that is as thin as the MacBook Air would survive. I'm surprise the MacBook Air screen survived.

A thin plastic laptop would have cracked including the screen.

 

[cynics]

And you know this because?

50 million iphone 5's sold and 100 reported issue with aluminum phone bending.

Sounds like a manufacturing defect of way less than 1%.

If it was a major problem, Apple would be losing tons of money from replacing the devices.

I know the iPhone isn't cast or an alloy? Is that what you are asking?

One, because cast or alloy can't be manufactured that thin. Two, it would break before it bends.

Like control arms on a car (that use cast aluminum) there is a mild amount of bending before it breaks.

Cast aluminum wheels.

Or like aluminum alloys in firearms crack. Smith & Wesson was disqualified in the 90's military testing for a sidearm due to aluminum alloy frame crack.

Broken AR

Aluminum alloy bike frame.

Forged aluminum can bend some! However its EXTREMELY unlikely an iPhone 5 is forged aluminum. That is cut out of a solid billet block, much to wasteful, way to expensive and way way to slow to manufacture plus to costly. And it still cracks.

Volk forged aluminum racing wheel

Btw once again I'm not saying aluminum is a bad material. You can find PLENTY of broken plastic things online too. I'm just showing that cast and aluminum alloys break, not bend. And they are designed for very abusive conditions. The iPhones aluminum is relatively soft.

Regardless, and this is the important part. We aren't talking about the iPhone bending. We are talking about the strength and durability of each material. I know the iPhones bending issue isn't a huge wide spread issue, nor did I say it was. Stop making it sound like I am by cutting snipits out of my post.

 

[F123D]

[/COLOR]iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3 Drop Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5q5TRuAsY

Aluminum is great. Suck it Aluminum haters.

Galaxy Note II drop test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA0r7tc6V5s

No problem here.

 

[hyteckit]

Galaxy Note II drop test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA0r7tc6V5s

No problem here.

Broke at 2 feet drop here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2xnWH724Ho

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I know the iPhone isn't cast or an alloy? Is that what you are asking?

You said "I've said the aluminum used in an iPhone is closer to food grade aluminum"

Food grade aluminum? Really.

50 milllion iPhone 5's sold. How many had issues with the iPhone 5's bending? I can see how some bend because they fell on it or put too much weight onto it. But I'm guessing the same about of force would have cracked the screen on a Galaxy S3.

 

[F123D]

Broke at 2 feet drop here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2xnWH724Ho

Nice video. All that abuse and the Note II still works.

 

[hyteckit]

Nice video. All that abuse and the Note II still works.

Yeah, if you don't mind a shattered screen.

 

[F123D]

Yeah, if you don't mind a shattered screen.

Are you saying the iPhone screen doesn't shatter when dropped? Plenty of "drop test" videos for that also.

 

[Dave.UK]

Broke at 2 feet drop here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2xnWH724Ho

At least compare like to like! Thats a torture test, not a drop test!

Heres the video for the iPhone 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYzYS3FBUqY

I like her comment about the iPhone 5
"If you dont want to use it with a case, then this probably isnt the phone for you"

Those videos tell me that the Note was more durable then the iPhone.

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Yeah, if you don't mind a shattered screen.

Again,

Listen to what she said
"Its got a broken screen, but that can be easily replaced. The important thing is that it switches on and still works - which it does"

 

[hyteckit]

Are you saying the iPhone screen doesn't shatter when dropped? Plenty of "drop test" videos for that also.

No, but the iPhone screen has a better chance of surviving because the Aluminum frame provides better structural integrity than plastic.

Even the iPhone 4 screen and glass back didn't shatter when toss down a flight of stairs twice.

The Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 foot drop. That's pretty sad.

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At least compare like to like! Thats a torture test, not a drop test!

Heres the video for the iPhone 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYzYS3FBUqY

I like her comment about the iPhone 5
"If you dont want to use it with a case, then this probably isnt the phone for you"

Those videos tell me that the Note was more durable then the iPhone.

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Again,

Listen to what she said
"Its got a broken screen, but that can be easily replaced. The important thing is that it switches on and still works - which it does"

Really? That's your argument? The Note 2 is more durable than the iPhone 5 because the iPhone 5 has scratches, but the Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 ft drop. I'm bettting the Note 2 will get scratched up too if toss across a rough concrete surface.

You are arguing that it's better and cheaper to replace the screen than buy a $5 iphone case after the torture test?

Haha....

How much does a Note 2 screen replacement cost? $300?
How long does it take to replace the screen? Hours? Days?

I can live with a scratched iPhone 5. I wouldn't be able to live with a Note 2 with a shattered screen.

 

[F123D]

No, but the iPhone screen has a better chance of surviving because the Aluminum frame provides better structural integrity than plastic.

Even the iPhone 4 screen and glass back didn't shatter when toss down a flight of stairs twice.

The Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 foot drop. That's pretty sad.

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Really? That's your argument? The Note 2 is more durable than the iPhone 5 because the iPhone 5 has scratches, but the Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 ft drop. I'm bettting the Note 2 will get scratched up too if toss across a rough concrete surface.

You are arguing that it's better and cheaper to replace the screen than buy a $5 iphone case after the torture test?

Haha....

How much does a Note 2 screen replacement cost? $300?
How long does it take to replace the screen? Hours? Days?

I can live with a scratched iPhone 5. I wouldn't be able to live with a Note 2 with a shattered screen.

Hand picking specific drop test videos proves nothing. We can go back and forth posting videos of broken iPhone and Galaxy screens.

If the Note II is as bad as you claim it is compared to the iPhone 5, tell me again which phone did you buy and currently own? Oh that rights, a Note II.

 

[sentinelsx]

No, but the iPhone screen has a better chance of surviving because the Aluminum frame provides better structural integrity than plastic.

Even the iPhone 4 screen and glass back didn't shatter when toss down a flight of stairs twice.

The Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 foot drop. That's pretty sad.

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Really? That's your argument? The Note 2 is more durable than the iPhone 5 because the iPhone 5 has scratches, but the Note 2 screen shattered from a 2 ft drop. I'm bettting the Note 2 will get scratched up too if toss across a rough concrete surface.

Yeah if you drop an iPhone from 30000 feet on a mattress or carpet down below at earth it will survive that too, because it is not just the height that matters, it is also the impact medium.

Good job twisting the facts by equating concrete with an aircraft's flexible carpet surface to show how your mighty iPhone is better.

My iPhone 4 and 5 which fell from a 1 foot height to my wooden floor and had a shattered back and now compressed aluminum corners respectively, would like a word with your hulk iPhone.

 

[hyteckit]

Yeah if you drop an iPhone from 30000 feet on a mattress or carpet down below at earth it will survive that too, because it is not just the height that matters, it is also the impact medium.

Good job twisting the facts by equating concrete with an aircraft's flexible carpet surface to show how your mighty iPhone is better.

My iPhone 4 and 5 which fell from a 1 foot height to my wooden floor and had a shattered back and now compressed aluminum corners respectively, would like a word with your hulk iPhone.

Aircraft's flexible carpet surface? What are you talking about? Did you even watch the video or you just pulling stuff from your behind? You think the iPhone 5 got scratched up from carpet? The iPhone 5 was drop onto rough concrete floor multiple times.

You must be one clumsy person to keep dropping your iPhones. I own every single iPhone except for the iPhone 5 and never many to damage one.


Check out the video below and they me how the Galaxy S3 fair with the iPhone 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36U-hOhTNIw

I would say the iPhone 5 wins by a mile.



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Hand picking specific drop test videos proves nothing. We can go back and forth posting videos of broken iPhone and Galaxy screens.

If the Note II is as bad as you claim it is compared to the iPhone 5, tell me again which phone did you buy and currently own? Oh that rights, a Note II.

I'm pretty sure I didn't buy a Note 2 for its durability. I bought it for the s pen.
I use an iPhone 4S as my daily phone. The Note 2 is my toy that I got bored with. It sits at home on the table doing absolutely nothing.



Check out the video below and tell me how the Galaxy S3 fair with the iPhone 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36U-hOhTNIw

Tell me how durable and awesome is plastic.

 

[hyteckit]

Show me a video of a galaxy S3 surviving being toss 12 ft into the air and failing onto concrete floor.

One drop test wouldn't prove much. But a big sample of drop test does.

The sample over many drop test, I can confidently say the iPhone 5 fairs much better thans the galaxy S3. The plastic in the Galaxy S3 doesn't provide the same structural integrity as the iPhone 5 aluminum casing.

The Galaxy S3 plastic bends and most of the force is transfered to the screen. On the iPhone 5, the Aluminum frame absorb most of the impact.

Amost every corner drop on a Galaxy S3 from about 4 feet basically shatters the screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4zQKeAEqsQ