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Mobile OSs Google Navigation just got clapped!!

cyks

cyks

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Seiga said:
Not trolling, just stating a fact. Where does it say on the iPhone that it contains a GPS chip? Android phones contain them, but iPhones don't. The OG droid had a GPS chip built in. Google maps and navigation is much more accurate than iPhones triangulation of the cell towers.

Apple can have all the fancy stuff added, but if it stinks at directions, then their software is no good.

Prove me wrong.
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Like I said, nearly ALL cell phones in recent years have GSP chips included... and yes, the iPhone is certainly on that list.

Please do a little research before stating your 'facts' (Google can be your friend here)...especially if your only proof is because Apple chooses not to print it on the back of the case.
 
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Seiga

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cyks said:
Like I said, nearly ALL cell phones in recent years have GSP chips included... and yes, the iPhone is certainly on that list.

Please do a little research before stating your 'facts' (Google can be your friend here)...especially if your only proof is because Apple chooses not to print it on the back of the case.
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Using cell tower triangulation is not the same as a Global Positioning Satellite. Yes, Google is my friend. This is the single reason why iPhone "GPS" is not as quick as Android.
 
nuckinfutz

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http://www4.anandtech.com/Show/Inde...age=9&slug=apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon

Anandtech said:
The iPhone 4 previously used a BCM4750 single chip GPS receiver, and shared the 2.4 GHz WiFi antenna as shown many times in diagrams. We reported with the CDMA iPhone 4 that Qualcomm’s GPS inside MDM6600 was being used in place of some discrete solution, and showed a video demonstrating its improved GPS fix. I suspected at the time that the CDMA iPhone 4 might be using GLONASS from MDM6600 (in fact, the MDM6600 amss actually flashed onto the CDMA iPhone 4 includes many GLONASS references), but never was able to concretely confirm it was actually being used.

MDM6610 inside the 4S inherits the same Qualcomm GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System) Gen8 support, namely GPS and its Russian equivalent, GLONASS. The two can be used in conjunction at the same time and deliver a more reliable 3D fix onboad MDM6610, which is what the 4S does indeed appear to be using. GPS and GLONASS are functionally very similar, and combined support for GPS and GLONASS at the same time is something most modern receivers do now. There are even receivers which support the EU’s standard, Galileo, though it isn’t completed yet. This time around, Apple is being direct about its inclusion of GLONASS. The GPS inside MDM6610 fully supports standalone mode, and assisted mode from UMTS, GSM, OMA, and gpsOneXTRA.
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Sheesh
 
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Netherscourge

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Google was already looking into adding turn-by-turn to their iOS map APP. In fact, right now all that stands in their way is Apple's iTunes app screeners.

(It'll just be an APP when Apple's Maps comes out in iOS 6, but rest assured, Google Maps will STILL be on our iOS devices - just as APPS)

And chances are, most of us will still use it a lot more than Apple's maps.
 
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vastoholic

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I bought Navigon about 3 or 4 years ago anyway. I don't need 3D view or fly over. The turn by turn was my most intriguing feature, but if those bugs exists in the final version and the maps aren't as detailed, then I'll keep using Navigon.
 
B777Forevar

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lol Arctic Ocean.

Looks like Santa relocated to New Delhi

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Bobby Corwen

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B777Forevar said:
lol Arctic Ocean.

Looks like Santa relocated to New Delhi

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Oh yeah, that's really gonna affect my day-to-day commutting and errands...

Youre talking to a guy who was happy when Mapquest came out. It did the job.

To me all that matters is that it is all integrated and works smoothly.

In Google maps when you zoom, there is a moment where the whole system loads the next level of resolution. In the iMaps demo at WWDC, the zooming seemed to be on another lever of vectorness. And if it can deliver that; smoothness and coolness, it is already better than Google Nav. Everything else is unnecessary extras.

The maps on Google seem to be more color coded for major and minor roads vs a more cleaner look on iMaps so far. I dunno about that or how important it is. But in the big picture, I think it's a non-issue. Again, I will have to test this in real life conditions if I feel I miss the Google Map style.

I think not.

One day all major cities will be a recreated 3D model that you can fly around in like spiderman with 1:1 real life accuracy.

Apple has moved us one step closer to that with Flyover, and have made Navigation that much smoother and integrated.

Google will rue the day that they didn't heed Steve's warnings.
 
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walie

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Bobby Corwen said:
Oh yeah, that's really gonna affect my day-to-day commutting and errands...

Youre talking to a guy who was happy when Mapquest came out. It did the job.

To me all that matters is that it is all integrated and works smoothly.

In Google maps when you zoom, there is a moment where the whole system loads the next level of resolution. In the iMaps demo at WWDC, the zooming seemed to be on another lever of vectorness. And if it can deliver that; smoothness and coolness, it is already better than Google Nav. Everything else is unnecessary extras.

The maps on Google seem to be more color coded for major and minor roads vs a more cleaner look on iMaps so far. I dunno about that or how important it is. But in the big picture, I think it's a non-issue. Again, I will have to test this in real life conditions if I feel I miss the Google Map style.

I think not.

One day all major cities will be a recreated 3D model that you can fly around in like spiderman with 1:1 real life accuracy.

Apple has moved us one step closer to that with Flyover, and have made Navigation that much smoother and integrated.

Google will rue the day that they didn't heed Steve's warnings.
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You do know that the android version of googlemaps used vector based maps in 2010 right?

You do know that as you say "one day all major cities will be a recreated 3D model...blah blah" googlemaps will have the same things right? In fact, they already have a head start on it

Or are you too busy buying the new 17" macbook pro to realize all this? Oh wait....
 
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Bobby Corwen

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walie said:
You do know that the android version of googlemaps used vector based maps in 2010 right?

You do know that as you say "one day all major cities will be a recreated 3D model...blah blah" googlemaps will have the same things right? In fact, they already have a head start on it

Or are you too busy buying the new 17" macbook pro to realize all this? Oh wait....
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Yes "walie" in all good faith, I understand that.

When I said superior vector based maps, I meant that they seem to zoom in and out faster. I never said that they were the only ones with vector technology.

In the demo it looked like the zooming in and out of resolutions seemed to be more dynamic and responsive than anything I have experienced in Google Earth or maps.

Are you saying Google Nav is that responsive when going from city view to block view?

I understand it has vector technology as well, but how responsive is it?

As for the future, we shall see about that.

As for the 17, we shall see about that too, but when I noticed that they don't even sell the old MBPs in 17 anymore, that was not a good sign. It's still not set in stone that 17 is extinct tho. But it's also looking scary.
 
chakraj

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Finally I will be able to have free Navigation on my iphone 4. I cant wait for IOS 6 to hit andf get the Navigation and Siri on my 4... Oh Ya!

All of you fragmented androids can kiss it, now that the iphone has some of the new features, you guys are so in the past.

Now that all IOS products will have the same features, un like you fragmented android people... In your face! :apple:

I am of course being facetiouse as the iPhone 4 won't have that function.
 
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takeshi74

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Seiga said:
Using cell tower triangulation is not the same as a Global Positioning Satellite. Yes, Google is my friend. This is the single reason why iPhone "GPS" is not as quick as Android.
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Your first sentence is the only correct statement. However, the rest is completely incorrect. If you can Google then you can find the iPhone's specs. Even if you can't they've been linked here for you. The iPhone's GPS receiver is a GPS receiver. You can't call something GPS if it doesn't use the GPS satellites for positioning.

You might be thinking that aGPS is tower triangulation but that's a common misconception. Again, you can't call it GPS if it doesn't use the GPS satellites. Again, learn to use Google and read up. Even your beloved OG Droid had aGPS and I quite found often found mine unable to get a fix because of its poor aGPS implementation.

The iPhone GPS is certainly quick.

Seiga said:
Not trolling, just stating a fact.
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If you're not trolling then you're hopelessly ignorant. You certainly don't know what fact means.
 
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Dkorda

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Seiga said:
Using cell tower triangulation is not the same as a Global Positioning Satellite. Yes, Google is my friend. This is the single reason why iPhone "GPS" is not as quick as Android.
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Wow some people need to do some research before they post.

iPhone and iPads with cellular radios (3G antenna) have GPS. WiFi only iPads DO NOT have GPS chips. What makes an iPhone/iPad find its location quicker is WiFi.. That's why it suggests you turn on your WiFi for better location information.

Thus the entire debate over location gate. All Apple was trying to do was locate you faster.. The only reason why your WiFi locations were stored on your device.
 
lordofthereef

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Bobby Corwen said:
Oh yeah, that's really gonna affect my day-to-day commutting and errands...
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You are shown concrete evidence of where your "superior vector based maps" contain erroneous information (and a pretty big mistake, at that) and you basically say "that doesn't bother me". :confused:

If something as huge as the Arctic Ocean is mislabeled, what makes you think all the "little things" are all properly labeled? I am literally... baffled.
 
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