Google Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL

[Awesomesince86]

So just a little update for anyone debating Pixel vs iPhone...

after about a week with the iPhone I have to say it’s pretty great. Cameras, battery life, and hardware are all high points. Battery is frankly best I’ve used on any phone and it’s not close. I finish the day around 50% left and with 5 hours SOT.

However some iOS things have started to get on my nerves...

- Notifications are still bad. At least they’re bundled now but not having icons at the top I constantly have notifications that I don’t remember are there until I pull down the notification shade.
- Sharing menu still sucks. Anything shared through a 3rd party app is still confusing and inconsistent. It just works on Android.
- iOS is just boring. This isn’t really a knock because everything works well and it streamlined. But if you like to tinker with things, the options just aren’t there. This is something we all know but I didn’t think it would bother me. It’s odd feeling bored with a new phone after only a week.

anyway, still looking forward to the Pixel event. That should make it easier to compare these two. If Pixel can nail even respectable battery life, I’ll end up grabbing a Pixel 4 around New Years.

 

[Tig Bitties]

The new 11 Pro looks like a great phone, finally an iPhone with a great camera, and outstanding battery life, and Apple always designs and builds great hardware.

But iOS, ugh, man it looks and feels like the same old thing, year after year, after year. Notifications have sucked on iOS for years. And 3rd part apps, and no option to set specific apps as default, and so many thing in iOS just feel wrong and extremely outdated in the 2019 smartphone world. And certain stock apps just seem completely untouched and never updated by Apple for years, like they forgot about them. Phone app is a great expamsple, still no T9 dialer, and it hijacks your screen with an incoming call, where it should show up as a Banner / Heads Up notification, not take over your entire screen.

 

[Awesomesince86]

The new 11 Pro looks like a great phone, finally an iPhone with a great camera, and outstanding battery life, and Apple always designs and builds great hardware.

But iOS, ugh, man it looks and feels like the same old thing, year after year, after year. Notifications have sucked on iOS for years. And 3rd part apps, and no option to set specific apps as default, and so many thing in iOS just feel wrong and extremely outdated in the 2019 smartphone world. And certain stock apps just seem completely untouched and never updated by Apple for years, like they forgot about them. Phone app is a great expamsple, still no T9 dialer, and it hijacks your screen with an incoming call, where it should show up as a Banner / Heads Up notification, not take over your entire screen.

IMO a lot of the design and functionality choices on android vs iOS comes down to the following mindset...

Android wants to give you the option to pick what you think is best vs Apple who want make you use what they think is best (And have streamlined very well).

 

[mjschabow]

The new 11 Pro looks like a great phone, finally an iPhone with a great camera, and outstanding battery life, and Apple always designs and builds great hardware.

But iOS, ugh, man it looks and feels like the same old thing, year after year, after year. Notifications have sucked on iOS for years. And 3rd part apps, and no option to set specific apps as default, and so many thing in iOS just feel wrong and extremely outdated in the 2019 smartphone world. And certain stock apps just seem completely untouched and never updated by Apple for years, like they forgot about them. Phone app is a great expamsple, still no T9 dialer, and it hijacks your screen with an incoming call, where it should show up as a Banner / Heads Up notification, not take over your entire screen.

That's exactly why I got bored with iOS. And quietly, Android has added feature like being able to search for businesses in the stock phone app that have almost become must have for me.

I'm excited for the Google event too. My hunch is that I'll stick with my Note 10+, but it'll be cool to see what Google came up with.

 

[nospleen]

A Bunch of Pixel 4 Apps can Now Be Installed by You

A whole bunch of Google’s upcoming Pixel 4 apps leaked, thanks to a system dump from one of those early Pixel 4 XL units in the wild. After seeing apps like the updated Wallpapers, Pixel Launcher, and (voice) Recorder app detailed, many are now available to download if you are... #Apps #Google

www.droid-life.com

Finally, the swipe down from the screen to get to your quick settings and notification is in the launcher. Just installed on my 3a.

 

[Tig Bitties]

A Bunch of Pixel 4 Apps can Now Be Installed by You

A whole bunch of Google’s upcoming Pixel 4 apps leaked, thanks to a system dump from one of those early Pixel 4 XL units in the wild. After seeing apps like the updated Wallpapers, Pixel Launcher, and (voice) Recorder app detailed, many are now available to download if you are... #Apps #Google

www.droid-life.com

Finally, the swipe down from the screen to get to your quick settings and notification is in the launcher. Just installed on my 3a.

Me too, and loving that they finally added the swipe down for notification shade.

New wallpapers are cool too.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

It seems almost certain now that Pixel 4 won't have any biometric authentication besides face unlock. I'm curious how long it will take for apps, such as finance/banking, to be updated to recognize face unlock for secure use.

Is there any chance it'll automatically work with apps that allow fingerprint for authentication, or will there be new APIs that we'll have to wait for apps to add over time?

 

[michael9891]

It seems almost certain now that Pixel 4 won't have any biometric authentication besides face unlock. I'm curious how long it will take for apps, such as finance/banking, to be updated to recognize face unlock for secure use.

Is there any chance it'll automatically work with apps that allow fingerprint for authentication, or will there be new APIs that we'll have to wait for apps to add over time?

Can anyone remember how long it took for Face ID on the iPhone to be accepted for bank authentication?

I know you can use optical Touch ID for banking etc and that's a far less secure method than ultrasonic or traditional FPS.

 

[noobinator]

Can anyone remember how long it took for Face ID on the iPhone to be accepted for bank authentication?

I know you can use optical Touch ID for banking etc and that's a far less secure method than ultrasonic or traditional FPS.

It was very quick on iPhone. I remember it being available at or shortly after launch.

 

[tbayrgs]

Can anyone remember how long it took for Face ID on the iPhone to be accepted for bank authentication?

I know you can use optical Touch ID for banking etc and that's a far less secure method than ultrasonic or traditional FPS.

Immediately. It required no changes by devs to have an app that was previously setup for TouchID authentication work with FaceID. The front facing terminology might not of been accurate (dialogue might still say ‘TouchID’ instead of ‘FaceID’) but it would still work.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Google Pixel 4 shines in an official-looking press render

It's set to be unveiled on October 15. An official-looking press render of the Google Pixel 4 has surfaced, corroborating previous leaks and giving us our...

www.gsmarena.com

 

[slitherjef]

Edit

Was beaten to the punch by @Lava Lamp Freak so deleted my post as it was pretty much a duplicate

 

[super chimp]

The new 11 Pro looks like a great phone, finally an iPhone with a great camera, and outstanding battery life, and Apple always designs and builds great hardware.

But iOS, ugh, man it looks and feels like the same old thing, year after year, after year. Notifications have sucked on iOS for years. And 3rd part apps, and no option to set specific apps as default, and so many thing in iOS just feel wrong and extremely outdated in the 2019 smartphone world. And certain stock apps just seem completely untouched and never updated by Apple for years, like they forgot about them. Phone app is a great expamsple, still no T9 dialer, and it hijacks your screen with an incoming call, where it should show up as a Banner / Heads Up notification, not take over your entire screen.

I use an iPhone X and One Plus Six and cant say I have any real preferences between iOS and Android. They both work most of time relatively pain free and that’s all I am really interested in.

 

[Mellofello808]

The new 11 Pro looks like a great phone, finally an iPhone with a great camera, and outstanding battery life, and Apple always designs and builds great hardware.

But iOS, ugh, man it looks and feels like the same old thing, year after year, after year. Notifications have sucked on iOS for years. And 3rd part apps, and no option to set specific apps as default, and so many thing in iOS just feel wrong and extremely outdated in the 2019 smartphone world. And certain stock apps just seem completely untouched and never updated by Apple for years, like they forgot about them. Phone app is a great expamsple, still no T9 dialer, and it hijacks your screen with an incoming call, where it should show up as a Banner / Heads Up notification, not take over your entire screen.

Totally agree. Recently got a iPhone xs as a company phone.

No stranger to ios, since I have an iPad, and bought every iPhone up until the X.

However I haven't used one as a daily driver since the iPhone 7+ days. It feels totally stuck in time as a is, and there is still cruft and annoyances from 10 years ago baked in. Meanwhile Android has evolved by leaps and bounds in just the past few years.

The things that they have added such as the gestures and face ID, just seem like a more annoying take on what they are replacing.

Made the mistake of updating to 13.1, and it is a buggy mess.


There is no way I will be going back to ios, unless they do a major overhaul.

 

[mrbob88]

Tons of Pixel 4 demo videos leaked/released today, you can check it out on 9to5Google if you haven't. Hoping that's not all we get at the start, otherwise it'll just be labeled as a gimmicky feature. Really hoping that Soli can detect more "minor" gestures and not need big sweeping gestures that Samsung has had since 2013.

Will be interesting to see how face unlock will work with the lock screen. As far as I can tell, the phone unlocks to the home screen right away. Same concern I had with iPhone X unlocking to the home screen, but they solved this with the swipe up.

 

[slitherjef]

Dual exposure camera mode?!

Exclusive: Google Pixel 4 camera will bring 'Dual Exposure Camera Controls', here's how it works

We've now learned that the Google Pixel 4 will offer "Dual Exposure Camera Controls" to help you take the perfect shot, regardless of lighting.

9to5google.com

 

[drinkingtea]

Tons of Pixel 4 demo videos leaked/released today, you can check it out on 9to5Google if you haven't. Hoping that's not all we get at the start, otherwise it'll just be labeled as a gimmicky feature. Really hoping that Soli can detect more "minor" gestures and not need big sweeping gestures that Samsung has had since 2013.

Will be interesting to see how face unlock will work with the lock screen. As far as I can tell, the phone unlocks to the home screen right away. Same concern I had with iPhone X unlocking to the home screen, but they solved this with the swipe up.

You will have the option to jump straight to the home screen or not. One of the leaked video shows this option.

 

[Macalicious2011]

The Pixel 4 will be worth the wait if you love photography.

Having moved from the Pixel 2 XL to 11 Pro Max, these are the shortcomings that are growingly annoying me.

-Google's dynamic range is considerably superior. This is glaringly visible in photos in conditions where you have sunlight and medium shadows. I have seen overexposed or lightly blown out parts of an iPhone photo that I wouldn't have if the photo was shoot using my Pixel.

-On the iPhone the operating window for portrait photos is incredibly narrow. You have to be within 8 feet or else it won't work. This is not ideal for large objects such as a car or group of people. Even when doing macro shots of smaller objects, the phone must be at a very fixed distance away. BIG minus point given that this is a £1,000 phone with three cameras.

-Photos are very true to life as if they were shot by a pocket camera. The lack of pop means that almost every photo needs editing.


Image quality is superb and video capabilities are second to none. However, as far as pointing, shooting and sharing, my Pixel 2 XL was a much more enjoyable camera.

Therefore, if photography is high up the priority list then I recommend you wait for the Pixel 4.

The good thing is that iPhones have good resale value and I might ditch it in the spring for a Pixel 4 XL if HDR and portrait photography doesn't improve.

 

[Awesomesince86]

The Pixel 4 will be worth the wait if you love photography.

Having moved from the Pixel 2 XL to 11 Pro Max, these are the shortcomings that are growingly annoying me.

-Google's dynamic range is considerably superior. This is glaringly visible in photos in conditions where you have sunlight and medium shadows. I have seen overexposed or lightly blown out parts of an iPhone photo that I wouldn't have if the photo was shoot using my Pixel.

-On the iPhone the operating window for portrait photos is incredibly narrow. You have to be within 8 feet or else it won't work. This is not ideal for large objects such as a car or group of people. Even when doing macro shots of smaller objects, the phone must be at a very fixed distance away. BIG minus point given that this is a £1,000 phone with three cameras.

-Photos are very true to life as if they were shot by a pocket camera. The lack of pop means that almost every photo needs editing.


Image quality is superb and video capabilities are second to none. However, as far as pointing, shooting and sharing, my Pixel 2 XL was a much more enjoyable camera.

Therefore, if photography is high up the priority list then I recommend you wait for the Pixel 4.

The good thing is that iPhones have good resale value and I might ditch it in the spring for a Pixel 4 XL if HDR and portrait photography doesn't improve.

It sounds like you have put the cameras on the pro max through more of a test than I have, but I find them very good. I’m definitely a point and shoot guy when it comes to taking pictures. I don’t edit them unless absolutely necessary. As someone who also had a Pixel, the biggest thing I noticed is the Pixels amazing ability to never take a bad shot of a moving object. My son rarely is still for pictures and they were always clear. The iPhone still takes blurry pictures every once in a while. However, having the 3 cameras that work so seamlessly together is a huge plus.

I would say currently that the pro max is a little ahead of the Pixel 3 but it’s close enough that I expect the Pixel 4 to retake the lead.

Also I’ve noticed that the iOS photos app is so far behind google photos in terms of facial recognition. Google phots almost always identifies the correct face once I’ve labeled them whereas iOS picture app fails if the person is wearing sunglasses or a hat or anything like that.

 

[jamezr]

Loving all the leaks. Can’t wait for this phone!!

Exclusive: Latest Pixel 4 spec sheets reveal ‘Pixel Neural Core,’ no buds in the box

We've exclusively obtained the official spec sheet for the Google Pixel 4, which includes a previously unknown detail, the "Pixel Neural Core."

9to5google.com

 

[mclld]

What is a Titan m security module? Do previous Pixels have security modules or is this some marketing jargon?

 

[Lobwedgephil]

What is a Titan m security module? Do previous Pixels have security modules or is this some marketing jargon?

Previous pixels have this as well, its will be for Face Unlock, similar to what iPhones have for Face ID. Previously was for their fingerprint sensor.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Everything on the spec sheet and release info looks great...except the battery on the XL. Thats just not big enough for a phone with a 90 Hz screen unless Google pulled off some impressive low-power feats.

 

[phillytim]

I've been seriously contemplating a move to Pixel 4XL, but Apple came in for the save with the 11 Pro cameras; so I just bought my 11PM this past weekend.

To be honest, that was a close one; I was willing to jump ship.

 

[mjschabow]

I've been seriously contemplating a move to Pixel 4XL, but Apple came in for the save with the 11 Pro cameras; so I just bought my 11PM this past weekend.

To be honest, that was a close one; I was willing to jump ship.

This. Dark Mode, battery life, swipe keyboard and camera. They checked all the boxes.