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Cnasty

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Sign me yo for this!
No buttons and front in display FPS

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-4-no-physical-buttons-features-leak_id116059
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This is the Pixel we have all been waiting for. Imagine if they bring their camera wizardry to this device AND another camera for wide angle?!!?

Yup, sign me up with a good trade in deal or something as we have seen the Pixel value plummet very fast.
 
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5105973

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The current FPS is the best I’ve ever used so I’m not happy about the in display one which is ok, but sometimes annoying on my S10+.

I’ll have to wait and see on this one.
 

jamezr

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This is the Pixel we have all been waiting for. Imagine if they bring their camera wizardry to this device AND another camera for wide angle?!!?

Yup, sign me up with a good trade in deal or something as we have seen the Pixel value plummet very fast.
yes! Dual cameras on a Pixel is going to be awesome!
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The current FPS is the best I’ve ever used so I’m not happy about the in display one which is ok, but sometimes annoying on my S10+.

I’ll have to wait and see on this one.
Hopefully it will be revision 2 from what is on the S10 :)
 
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michael9891

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yes! Dual cameras on a Pixel is going to be awesome!
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Hopefully it will be revision 2 from what is on the S10 :)
Would it be down to Samsung (if they make the screen) or Google on the ultrasonic FPS? Wouldn’t look good if Samsung make a much better one for Google!
 
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kwk1

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I like it, and I'll like it even more if that flat screen makes it to production.
Flat screen and 6gb of ram and I will get one.
My 6s plus is working fine so I can wait.
 
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tbayrgs

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That or adopt the OnePlus technology which is older and maybe not so cutting edge/secure but hot damn its fast and works every single time.

^This. The demos of the new one on the OnePlus 7 Pro show it’s damn quick and seems to be far more forgiving, using a larger sensor area.
 
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Oohara

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^This. The demos of the new one on the OnePlus 7 Pro show it’s damn quick and seems to be far more forgiving, using a larger sensor area.
I hope it's more forgiving with wet fingers too because the one on my 6T doesn't work at all if my finger is even a bit humid like after doing the washing up or if I get a drop of rain on it
 
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5105973

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I like it, and I'll like it even more if that flat screen makes it to production.
Flat screen and 6gb of ram and I will get one.
My 6s plus is working fine so I can wait.
Yes, flat flat flat. That’s what I miss when I use my S10+. It’s not horrible for a curved display. It’s an excellent refinement of the concept. It’s just that I would prefer that it were totally flat. I got to play around with the S10e one of the kids at school got. I admit to having a tiny bit of buyers remorse, until I played around with the camera and realized I’d have regretted more not getting the one with the zoom lens.

I do have to stop and consider, though, if I want to shell out more $$ even with a trade on of my 3XL to get yet another phone that lacks the headphone jack. I use my S10+ all the time and my Pixel 3XL honestly sits a lot being a photo frame. I don’t think it would be worth it to me to upgrade this year. My only complaint that I had about my 3XL was that it didn’t work properly with one aspect of my Amazon app. That’s hardly a reason to chuck it. I actually find the comical face on the notch charming and unobtrusive so...

I may sit this one out.

We shall see. I have notoriously poor resistance to phone releases. :p:rolleyes:
 
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Tig Bitties

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I hope Google doesn't copycat Samsung S10 design for the Pixel 4, that would be pretty weak. I want to see something truly original, and utilize for the first time the full power of the HTC design team they bought, not make a S10 wannabe. Not that I hate on the S10, it's cool I guess, but Google should be creating something fresh here.
 

kwk1

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Yes, flat flat flat.

I do have to stop and consider, though, if I want to shell out more $$ even with a trade on of my 3XL to get yet another phone that lacks the headphone jack. I use my S10+ all the time and my Pixel 3XL honestly sits a lot being a photo frame. I don’t think it would be worth it to me to upgrade this year. My only complaint that I had about my 3XL was that it didn’t work properly with one aspect of my Amazon app. That’s hardly a reason to chuck it. I actually find the comical face on the notch charming and unobtrusive so...

I may sit this one out.

We shall see. I have notoriously poor resistance to phone releases. :p:rolleyes:

Your phones are very new and very nice!
The notch doesn't really bother me, just the 4gb of ram (which may not even bother me in real usage), and having the iPhone for so long, I think the fingerprint sensor on the back of the Pixel 3 would bug me.
But who knows, if the Pixel 4 is gonna go for a huge price, I just may scoop up a 3XL after all.
Oh, I do read a lot of your posts which I enjoy, and it wouldn't surprise me if you got something new in the fall!:D
 

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Your phones are very new and very nice!
The notch doesn't really bother me, just the 4gb of ram (which may not even bother me in real usage), and having the iPhone for so long, I think the fingerprint sensor on the back of the Pixel 3 would bug me.
But who knows, if the Pixel 4 is gonna go for a huge price, I just may scoop up a 3XL after all.
Oh, I do read a lot of your posts which I enjoy, and it wouldn't surprise me if you got something new in the fall!:D
Thank you for the kind words.

Oh yes the 4GB of ram IS a pain point for my husband. He multi tasks a lot and it’s all well and good until he suddenly boom, he’s got too much going on and the phone slows or freezes.

I don’t run into as many problems as he does because I don’t use my phone that way. I have two hands and a phone for each, so if I want to multi task I do two or more tasks on the two phones (and sometimes my iPad mini gets dragged in as well or I have three phones working). I’m completely weird. And I would be really something as an octopus-human hybrid. :eek::D

I am actually really intrigued by the ASUS Zenphone 6. I once had a Hitachi G1000 with a rotating camera and I think it’s so cool that companies are once again experimenting with cameras like that.

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At the time that phone seemed like a brick and when I was able to go to a much smaller Treo it felt so liberating. And now here we are back to gigantic heavy phones again. With flippy cameras. The nostalgia is getting to me. :p

Anyway the ASUS appeals to me because it supposedly has a very nice LCD display, headphone jack and 5000 mAH battery that will give 2 days of service. I look forward to seeing full reviews.

The problem with me trying to branch out and try an ASUS is I don’t know that I could mitigate the cost with a trade in of one of my current phones. I trade in phones that are going out of their one year warranties and get fresh new phones for under $500 -$600 thanks to trade in deals.

Every now and then I’d do something crazy like get an “extra” phone like my Product Red iPhone 8 Plus at full price, no trade in, and got the extended warranty for it. :rolleyes: Or get too attached and not send in my trade in and eat the full cost (as happened when I kept my Pixel 2 “Snowball”—do NOT name your phones cute names). I also once went down a dead end on an HTC 10. I loved that phone but one year later it was worth only $40 on trade at its own site! :eek: Fortunately the HTC DNA that I loved seems to have gone to the Pixels anyway.

But for the most part I try to make things work via deals so that I keep this “hobby” within a reasonable “entertainment budget” per year. With smart phone prices climbing as fast as they have, it’s now expensive to branch out and try the former budget brands.

Samsung made it so ridiculously inexpensive to trade up from my S9+ to my S10+.

Meanwhile, trying something like the OnePlus 7 Pro would actually cost me more! Unless they have a good trade in program. I’d need to check that out...if I were interested. However, they made that display too curved for my tolerance level. That’s a trend that needs to die fast. :mad:

Apropos of nothing: I read this morning that Grumpy Cat, aka Tardar Sauce, has passed away. Sigh. :(
 
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Cnasty

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Good to see them possibly going with an under screen FP sensor as that is one of my main dislikes of the current pixel.

But please, no with these ghastly camera boxes!
 
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Awesomesince86

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Everyone is assuming an in-display fingerprint reader based on the leaked renders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use facial recognition similar to FaceID as the primary authentication on the Pixel 4. If I recall correctly, there have been mentions of face unlock in the Android Q code hinting at it.
 

pika2000

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Everyone is assuming an in-display fingerprint reader based on the leaked renders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use facial recognition similar to FaceID as the primary authentication on the Pixel 4. If I recall correctly, there have been mentions of face unlock in the Android Q code hinting at it.
Face unlock has existed in Android since like Ice Cream Sandwich (I think). The issue is that that technique relies on insecure 2D image. Apple was the only one having FaceID tech for now (Xiaomi I think tried it on their Mi8 Explorer, but nobody talked about it). I doubt Google suddenly gets that tech ready to go.

In-display fingerprint reader is not bad. With the tech keeps improving, I think it makes sense for greater adoption by Google.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Face unlock has existed in Android since like Ice Cream Sandwich (I think). The issue is that that technique relies on insecure 2D image. Apple was the only one having FaceID tech for now (Xiaomi I think tried it on their Mi8 Explorer, but nobody talked about it). I doubt Google suddenly gets that tech ready to go.

In-display fingerprint reader is not bad. With the tech keeps improving, I think it makes sense for greater adoption by Google.

Correction, Android has supported face unlock but in Android Q they added support for more sophisticated FacedID-like hardware. To me, this hints at a more advanced version of face unlock coming to the next Pixel line. May not be FaceID levels, but I bet its superior to the other methods previous Android phones have used.
 

Wide opeN

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Google has a chance with this phone to make a Quantum Leap. I hope for competition sake, they don't blow it.

I still say they need to bump their launch date up to like July. October is too late.
 

Cnasty

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I still say they need to bump their launch date up to like July. October is too late.

I agree with this as it is a stale summer period after the Galaxy lines have already launched, some time in between an iPhone launch, and opportunity for a big device release.
 
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Lava Lamp Freak

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Everyone is assuming an in-display fingerprint reader based on the leaked renders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use facial recognition similar to FaceID as the primary authentication on the Pixel 4. If I recall correctly, there have been mentions of face unlock in the Android Q code hinting at it.
Face unlock has existed in Android since like Ice Cream Sandwich (I think). The issue is that that technique relies on insecure 2D image. Apple was the only one having FaceID tech for now (Xiaomi I think tried it on their Mi8 Explorer, but nobody talked about it). I doubt Google suddenly gets that tech ready to go.

In-display fingerprint reader is not bad. With the tech keeps improving, I think it makes sense for greater adoption by Google.
Correction, Android has supported face unlock but in Android Q they added support for more sophisticated FacedID-like hardware. To me, this hints at a more advanced version of face unlock coming to the next Pixel line. May not be FaceID levels, but I bet its superior to the other methods previous Android phones have used.

This is precisely what Lew says will be the case, based on the new leaked model.

Strangely, this new leak is completely opposite of everything leaked so far: no hole-punch camera, no in-display fingerprint, with bezels, with buttons.

 
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michael9891

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I can’t wait to see the reactions if it has a thick top bezel. lol I don’t care as long as the phone has good features and a good screen.
 

Cnasty

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I can’t wait to see the reactions if it has a thick top bezel. lol I don’t care as long as the phone has good features and a good screen.

Remove the huge notch, give me a bigger battery, brighter display, in display FSP/face ID-like unlock and I am fine.

Not too much to ask. :)
 
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