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Google Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL
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I'd take a forehead over an annoying notch any day. Plus, forehead equates with smarts which is what Pixels are known for and it makes it easier to tell right side up.
Thanks for posting your thoughts so far. I can't buy a phone that has no app support for face unlock (and lacks a fingerprint scanner), that's just a major fail and unacceptable to me. "Support in the coming months..." the classic answer from Google that I hate to hear. For $900, your phone had better have one of its key features fully complete at launch.
How are you finding the 4XL compared to your 3a XL in terms of stutter or lag? My 3a is lag / stutter city, it was set up as new when I first got it. I have a feeling the 855 and 90Hz screen are both fantastic and minimize any perceived micro stutter?
I was always confused why more companies didnt use software to hide the notch while still using the extra real estate for notifications. They should have all done what OnePlus did and thats black out the notched section so it just looked like a forehead but still use that area for notification icons.
So far, honestly no difference. My 3a XL is incredibly smooth.
Banking are the only apps that come to mind where no biometrics are a problem. I check various accounts multiple times a day and having to figure out certain digits each time is a step backwards.
I've also found the white to be less bright on this compared to my 3a XL.
The iPhone with FaceID did not have support from every app at launch either did it ?
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Isn't it a pre-order deal. Best Buy, Amazon and Google are all giving $100 Gift Cards with pre-order. What is wrong with that ?
It did...the API was prepared for either from the get go. Apple put some thought into it
It's just speculation on my part, but hardware sales is likely a very small piece of Google's revenue. If their goal is to have Android OS on as many phones as possible, and therewith Google services, it may not be in their best interest to put a significant dent in the sales of the OEMs that they rely on for propagation of their software and services.
They may fear that if they were to release a device that pulled a significant number of sales from Samsung, then Samsung might be more likely to consider Google a threat to their own business and begin to more seriously consider developing their own operating system, like Tizen.
Again just speculation on my part, because it truly doesn't make sense why they didn't include a larger battery or more storage, when those things wouldn't cost them a lot more money to source, and they're already charging flagship prices.
Android Q adds support for a Smart Stay-like “Screen Attention” feature
www.xda-developers.com
Settings > Display > Screen attention
Android Q adds support for a Smart Stay-like "Screen Attention" feature
Google is adding a feature to Android Q that's like Samsung Smart Stay, and it's called Screen Attention. It keeps your phone awake while you're using it.
Settings > Display > Screen attention
I really can’t see this being a reason. Hasn’t Samsung been trying to get Tizen off the ground for years, but Samsung knows that developers won’t bother to develop apps for it, so they’re sticking with Google.
I think the real reason is that Google is lazy and incompetent.
∆∆ I wouldn't say Google is incompetent, maybe just complacent. As all the other manufacturers.
They know the market is saturated. They know ecosystem is the way to go, a way to lock you in.
All things being equal, there is really nothing new to offer aside from random features and people are buying less devices so they are charging more. All my phones more or less do the same thing as the one I upgraded too, until they started removing the unnameable port...
Also, I guess why spend the money on R&D when people are buying less?
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I still might buy this thing but going to try to wait for the email from Google with a promotion.
They know the market is saturated. They know ecosystem is the way to go, a way to lock you in.
All things being equal, there is really nothing new to offer aside from random features and people are buying less devices so they are charging more. All my phones more or less do the same thing as the one I upgraded too, until they started removing the unnameable port...
Also, I guess why spend the money on R&D when people are buying less?
Edit again 😜
I still might buy this thing but going to try to wait for the email from Google with a promotion.
Early battery results. Keep in mind this is all in WiFi, no SIM in yet, but I was not in Airplane mode at all, so radios could still be searching or no?
For a device with UFS 2.1 and not UFS 3.0 storage it's surprisingly faster most of the time compared to iPhone 11 Pro.
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It supposedly does both physical SIM and eSIM so radio would be active otherwise eSIM OTA provisioning wouldn't work.
It supposedly does both physical SIM and eSIM so radio would be active otherwise eSIM OTA provisioning wouldn't work.
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Apparently the screen on the Pixel 4 only uses 90hz refresh when the brightness is over 75%. This has been confirmed by several tech sites.
What a joke. That tells me Google knows battery life is a problem and are throttling refresh so that it’s barely every used but so they can still advertise it.
What a joke. That tells me Google knows battery life is a problem and are throttling refresh so that it’s barely every used but so they can still advertise it.
I would think Google will fix this 90hz bug needing brightness to be above 75%. I expect the next few monthly security updates to have a lot of bug fixes.
It's not like Pixel phones only ones that launch with OS issues, new iPhone's have been known to launch with buggy iOS versions, takes a month or so for them to be ironed out by Apple.
It's not like Pixel phones only ones that launch with OS issues, new iPhone's have been known to launch with buggy iOS versions, takes a month or so for them to be ironed out by Apple.
I would much rather have that bug than the iOS 13 bugs I’m dealing with (horrible RAM management [Safari and other apps reload every time I leave the apps and when I turn the phone off, even for five minutes or less], the Mail app is literally broken, constant frame drops, and etc.). My phone is almost unusable and it’s been this way since iOS 13 was released. I’ve never been so frustrated with Apple (well, except several months ago when my two-year-old MacBook died after the logic board failed for the second time). It’s been the buggiest iOS release for me. I think Apple has released about 4 software updates since the iOS 13 release because it’s been that buggy. I have no idea when Apple will patch up the issues I’m having.
Apple isn’t perfect. I think a lot of Apple enthusiasts keep quiet about the day-to-day issues that iPhones can and do encounter.
You can force 90Hz in developer options to get around the bug/limitation. That likely drains battery more quickly, though.
This isn’t a bug. This is a deliberate move by Google. They likely saw battery life was bad with 90hz always on and decided to throttle it back to make battery respectable. If they do patch and fix it, I expect battery life to plummet.
Battery life so far has not been bad. But way too early to tell yet.
I'm having trouble with the keyboard in iOS. Selecting and cutting and pasting is just plain weird now. It's very hard to control text selection. I don't know if it's a bug or a new feature I just haven't figured out yet. My emails are sometimes weird. I dont know how to begin to describe it.
Anyway congratulations to everyone who has received their new Pixels. I am behind on looking at all the reviews that have been posted but I'll catch up eventually. I'm on my 3 XL at the moment and updating my Pixel 2.
It definitely feels a little nicer in the hand to use, compared to the 3a XL. Had my first experience of needing to use banking apps quickly today and no support for biometrics is simply not good enough.
I remember when I bought my last Pixel, I thought it might spoil things for when the 4 was released. And so far, I think I'm right. It's just not a different enough device to justify spending several hundred pounds extra.
I would be very surprised if this doesn't go back. But that's not to say it's a bad phone, because it's far from it. It's the great Pixel experience I've always liked. My worst fear was the battery but it's been alright so far. I just want something more different for all that money.
I remember when I bought my last Pixel, I thought it might spoil things for when the 4 was released. And so far, I think I'm right. It's just not a different enough device to justify spending several hundred pounds extra.
I would be very surprised if this doesn't go back. But that's not to say it's a bad phone, because it's far from it. It's the great Pixel experience I've always liked. My worst fear was the battery but it's been alright so far. I just want something more different for all that money.
Edge detection seems a little better on this. Only a quick pic, hard to get her to pose!
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