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Heat_Fan89

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I'm interested in the P4a 5G but only for the screen size. Will this 5G phone work on a 4G network?
 

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Took the boys out to walk some trails. Came home and they still wanted to hang outside for a bit. Zeke fell asleep chewing a stick, lol. I continue to be impressed by this phone. Such a steal at 350.
That camera does take some detailed pictures. You can make out the hair strands on your dog. Btw, what breed is the chocolate brown dog? Is that a brown lab?
 
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I'm interested in the P4a 5G but only for the screen size. Will this 5G phone work on a 4G network?
Of course it will. The rumored screen size is 6.2" so it won't be much bigger than the 4a.
My 4a screen is a little bigger than the screen on my GS9 but the overall size of the 4a is a little shorter.
So I'd figure the 4a 5G overall size will be about the same or slightly bigger than my GS9.....which would be appealing to me.
 
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Vegastouch

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I took a couple pics of our dogs as well. Hope they look as good. This is in the shade in late afternoon.
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mclld

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I wonder how many people will be fine with flagships after using phones like this
 

Heat_Fan89

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Of course it will. The rumored screen size is 6.2" so it won't be much bigger than the 4a.
My 4a screen is a little bigger than the screen on my GS9 but the overall size of the 4a is a little shorter.
So I'd figure the 4a 5G overall size will be about the same or slightly bigger than my GS9.....which would be appealing to me.
Thanks, the only reason I asked is because on the Google Play Store they note 5G is "required" with the P4a 5G and the Pixel 5. Btw, beautiful dogs you have there. :cool:
 

nospleen

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That camera does take some detailed pictures. You can make out the hair strands on your dog. Btw, what breed is the chocolate brown dog? Is that a brown lab?

Yep! He's an English lab. They are the dog show version of labs. Shorter, stockier, block head compared to the American Lab. (like out yellow lab) We bought are yellow lab first, and then read how the English lab temperaments are better, more calm, ETC.

So we decided to get an English for our second one and he is a lovable maniac, but is way less behaved than our yellow, lol. He gets plenty of exercise but still manages to get into everything, but we love him!
 

mjschabow

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I wonder how many people will be fine with flagships after using phones like this

It’s tough because the 4a takes great pics. Even the 3a does. But then you look at the Note 20 Ultra. Almost $1,000 more. But has the best screen. Really great zoom features. 108mp is great in certain scenarios. Then add the other cool features like Dex. Tough decision for sure.
 
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Vegastouch

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It’s tough because the 4a takes great pics. Even the 3a does. But then you look at the Note 20 Ultra. Almost $1,000 more. But has the best screen. Really great zoom features. 108mp is great in certain scenarios. Then add the other cool features like Dex. Tough decision for sure.

My GS9 screen does look better than my 4a because it is a little brighter and more vivid color but when not side by side, i like the 4a screen. Still looks nice.
And that's just judging by the home screens. I didn't watch videos on both to compare.

I sent my GS9 off today to be traded in. It has a broken glass screen so I'll get $80 for it making the 4a $269.
 
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ackmondual

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Got mine today but not either of my two cases yet.
It was easy to set up putting my apps on the homepage where I want them.
The only problem I'm having is with the Poweramp music player getting my music to work with it so far.
Amazon music works good offline with it though with the same music I copied in there from the Micro SD card that was in my S9 that the PowerAmp won't play. Still trying to work that out.
Ditto, although I need to figure out how to create folders in the app drawer. Having one humongous list of apps (without the pages) is not what I'm used to.

Really like that my screen is bigger than on my GS9 yet the phones overall size is a little shorter.
This is kinda weird for me... comparing my previous, LG G4 screen side-by-side with my new p4A, it looks like the former is bigger. However, the latter is spec-ed to be bigger (5.5" vs. 5.8"). OTOH, the former is also spec-ed at having more pixels and higher pixel density ?

I suppose I'll get used to a slightly smaller looking screen.

Also, I was considering a Galaxy s9 for my next phone! 64 GB may not have been enough for photos and multimedia, but it does have a micro-SD card slot, which would take care of that!

Would be nice if the speakers were just a little bit louder.
Agreed. I'll have to do more accurate tests, but it seems like the alarm on my LG G4 was much louder.

Also, I'm playing a game where 75% volume level seems to be equivalent of 40% on my LG G4.

BTW, you can offer feedback on the volume of the Galaxy s9? Both for when in speakerphone mode, and regular talk mode? Someone I know is on the lookout for this feature.

I also have to give it more time that it's only been a few hours, but I can't decide if I want to use the gestures going back home or back to the previous screen or back to using the buttons on the bottom.
However on the Pixel I don't think I can switch my buttons around like I could on my Galaxy to you have the back button on the right instead of the left.
I thought the Pixel 4A uses the home buttons, but I was wrong. It's more like the iPhone X in that regard. However, reading this, you do have the option to change to that! Reading further, not being able to customize the home touch buttons would be a turn off. I did that too on my LG G4... back button on the left hand side!

I think I can continue with the "swiping navigation gestures". In some places, going back means you need to swipe a different edge, since some popup or the app itself causes those areas to not register the initiation of the "back swipe". It's been really odd for me and I sort of miss the familiarity, but TBF, I've had to adjust every time I switched to a new phone... Nokia 6133 (flip phone) to a Samsung Galaxy s2, then to an Galaxy s4, then to an LG G4, and now this Pixel 4a.
 
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Heat_Fan89

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I'm weak. I just ordered my P4a from Google and took advantage of their 24 months zero percent finance.

What's funny is that I was considering an iPhone but their 24 months zero percent finance deal requires an Apple Card which requires an iPhone just to apply for the credit so since I don't own an iPhone I went with the better deal and that was Google's.
 
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It's not like the buttons take up a quarter of the screen lol. You could also hide them on Samsung phones and swipe up from the bottom to bring them up.
Also true with the LG G4 (and probably all the other LG phones and tablets). Sort of a "best of both worlds" where you can selectively set on a per-app-basis if you'd like it to always be there (for quick app exiting or switching), or to be hidden to maximize screen real estate space.

FWIW, even though it's easier to tap on a single, home button, if hidden, it is easier to switch out/go home with the p4a.

Speaking of which, I still like the additions Samsung put on Android as opposed to stock Android.
For instance, I can't change my lock screen pic on the Pixel like I did on my GS9. It has to be the same as the background apparently on stick Android.
Little things like that.
Some posts say otherwise, but I haven't been able to do that with a downloaded wallpaper. When I tap the "Set Wallpaper" button, it only lets me set it to home, home + Lock screen, but no option for Lock screen (only)

Another bothersome gesture I find I get lucky with using gestures is getting to the windows page where I have been before to either go directly to one or erase them. The buttons worked good for that, I get lucky with the gestures as I don't know what the actual gesture is to do that.
I'm beginning to get the basics behind that. Swipe up, but hold it there for a bit of time to activate the "app switcher" feature.


Anyone holding out for the 4a 5g? I wonder what obnoxious price it'll be listed at and if the radios will be any good.
I considered getting the p4a 5G version, but asking around, general consensus is 5G is only worth it if you don't have to pay extra for it.

I'm on T-Mobile, and my local store says the area we're at has gotten 5G, so just grab a compatible phone! However, it was brought to my attn that T-Mobile only carries 5G phones (which explains why I couldn't find the p4a on their site). Seems like they have an agenda there, and do want to push us towards 5G sooner than later.
 

BrettApple

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In case anyone was wondering. Portrait mode works great on goats! ?

The GCam port on my Samsung phones did not work with anything other than people (think iPhone Xr single lens) but the Pixel/Google's own sure does!

The wife got a good kick out of that.

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So far the portrait mode has been pretty decent about background detection but not quite 100%. Nor was my Galaxy S10 but it had a triple camera setup and primary used the telephoto lens for Live Focus vs the main and used primary to get additional depth data and that seemed to work very well in my use. Sometimes better than the shots I've gotten on the pixel but I still prefer the overall look better.

My old Canon T3i using an f/2.8 lens is far more natural so they've got a little ways to go.

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In case anyone was wondering. Portrait mode works great on goats! ?

The GCam port on my Samsung phones did not work with anything other than people (think iPhone Xr single lens) but the Pixel/Google's own sure does!

The wife got a good kick out of that.

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So far the portrait mode has been pretty decent about background detection but not quite 100%. Nor was my Galaxy S10 but it had a triple camera setup and primary used the telephoto lens for Live Focus vs the main and used primary to get additional depth data and that seemed to work very well in my use. Sometimes better than the shots I've gotten on the pixel but I still prefer the overall look better.

My old Canon T3i using an f/2.8 lens is far more natural so they've got a little ways to go.

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Nice shots! Your dog looks like he has a tattoo in his ear? ? Makes him look street tough in a way lol
 
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I'm weak. I just ordered my P4a from Google and took advantage of their 24 months zero percent finance.

What's funny is that I was considering an iPhone but their 24 months zero percent finance deal requires an Apple Card which requires an iPhone just to apply for the credit so since I don't own an iPhone I went with the better deal and that was Google's.

If I am not mistaken they still offer 24 months 0% option with iPhones even without an Apple Card. Its just a feature the Apple Card offers but Apple isn't going to turn down new business because people do not yet own an iPhone.
 

Heat_Fan89

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If I am not mistaken they still offer 24 months 0% option with iPhones even without an Apple Card. Its just a feature the Apple Card offers but Apple isn't going to turn down new business because people do not yet own an iPhone.
Thanks for the info. I just went to their website, selected an SE. My only two options are:

1) 24 months zero interest with an Apple Card

2) One time payment of $399
 

Jason2000

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Thanks for the info. I just went to their website, selected an SE. My only two options are:

1) 24 months zero interest with an Apple Card

2) One time payment of $399

You select pay cash. At the end where you enter payment info you have several options to pay. Apply for a Barclays card that gives you 0% interest (number of months depends on price), pay with CC or use Apple Card with 0%. Apple should probably make this a little more apparent.
 

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You select pay cash. At the end where you enter payment info you have several options to pay. Apply for a Barclays card that gives you 0% interest (number of months depends on price), pay with CC or use Apple Card with 0%. Apple should probably make this a little more apparent.
Haha, thanks for that info and I agree it could have been a little more apparent. I did apply and was approved for a Barclay's CC. However I didn't buy anything because 6 months zero interest applies to orders $499 or above and in order to get the max finance of 18 months you need to spend $999 or more. I believe with the Apple Card it's 24 months zero interest regardless of the amount? Not sure if it applies to any dollar amount.

Google does it differently where the amount doesn't matter so my P4a even with tax is costing me $15 for 24 months. And incase someone might be thinking why is zero interest so important? Yes I have the money to pay for the entire purchase with cash but I prefer to use the Banks interest free loan instead.

So today I got another CC and I kept my Google order. One day i'll eventually buy an iPhone. Today was not that day.
 
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Haha, thanks for that info and I agree it could have been a little more apparent. I did apply and was approved for a Barclay's CC. However I didn't buy anything because 6 months zero interest applies to orders $499 or above and in order to get the max finance of 18 months you need to spend $999 or more. I believe with the Apple Card it's 24 months zero interest regardless of the amount? Not sure if it applies to any dollar amount.

Google does it differently where the amount doesn't matter so my P4a even with tax is costing me $15 for 24 months. And incase someone might be thinking why is zero interest so important? Yes I have the money to pay for the entire purchase with cash but I prefer to use the Banks interest free loan instead.

So today I got another CC and I kept my Google order. One day i'll eventually buy an iPhone. Today was not that day.

I completely understand. Also just a note. According to that screenshot I shared the 6 months of 0% applies to items $499 and less. So go get that iPhone I know you want...lol.
 
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Heat_Fan89

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I completely understand. Also just a note. According to that screenshot I shared the 6 months of 0% applies to items $499 and less. So go get that iPhone I know you want...lol.
I saw that but I was considering the SE vs the P4a and the SE totals out far less than $499. I'll eventually get an iPhone but so far the better deal for me including financing is the P4a.

Edit: I didn't look at the page you referred to carefully enough, my bad. So it's 6 months interest free up to $499. I'm still going to go with the P4a as for me it's still the better deal and it has a bigger screen than the SE.
 
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I saw that but I was considering the SE vs the P4a and the SE totals out far less than $499. I'll eventually get an iPhone but so far the better deal for me including financing is the P4a.

Edit: I didn't look at the page you referred to carefully enough, my bad. So it's 6 months interest free up to $499. I'm still going to go with the P4a as for me it's still the better deal and it has a bigger screen than the SE.

Its a nice phone for $350. Mine arrived a few days ago. I am a little disappointed in performance coming from an iPhone 11 Pro but it is not a deal breaker. The camera is awesome. Have not decided yet whether to keep it or return it and wait on the Pixel 5. Or I could just stick with my iPhone and keep the 4a to play with. I have no plans to get an iPhone 12 Pro this year so that saves me some money. Actually this 4a is making me rethink ever spending $1000 on a phone again.
 
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