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Awesomesince86

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I'm not going to start a new thread just to ask this.

Can anyone see Google releasing a new flagship as soon as March as some rumours have suggested? With the release schedukt this year, it shows anything is possible with Google. But 5 months later?

I think its a long shot, but its obvious they want to shift their focus on Pixels so that has to start sometime. If the schedule that leaked a while back was actually true, it said they wanted to release a budget phone, a flagship Pixel, and a foldable this year. So it could be the year the set a new release timeline. Also, one of Google's head guys recently said something about the time and investment they've put into hardware will be shown to consumers this year. What that means is anyones guess.

So, I think its doubtful we will a flagship style phone until next fall, but not impossible. I know Max Weinbach, who has been pretty successful with leaks, has said hes heard from 2 different sources that Google will release a flagship Pixel 6 in Q1 of next year. However, he said these arent his usual sources and he has nothing else to back it up.
 
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Aneres11

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I turn vibration off when my phone rings. Find it annoying. Funny how everyone is different isn’t it. Opinions. ;)
Shame the haptics have stepped back from the Pixel 4 anyway although I found the ones on the 4a to be absolutely fine.
 

noobinator

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New android device first steps for me for years now:

1. Keyboard haptics off
2. Sounds off
3. Animations to 0.5x in developer options

I rarely have my phone make a noise or vibrate, including calls and texts. The only noise it usually makes is my alarm.
 
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Tig Bitties

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I'm on the phone for business a lot Mon - Fri, probably a good couple dozen phone calls a day, so in a work week easily 100+ phone calls weekly, at least. Which is pretty normal, nothing crazy. Business still requires that face to face or talking person to person, can't do everything just via text and e-mail. So a phone with a muffled SCUBA sound really sucks.

My Pixel 4 XL sounded great on the phone, just perfect. Disappointing that the Pixel 5 stepped way down here.

Haptics vibration are weaker too on this Pixel 5.

It's hard to describe, but the phone just feels sort of cheap, like really cheap, as almost an after thought by Google. or like they were thinking, ok this year 2020 with COVID, no new Pixel phone, and the few nerds that work on the Google Pixel team down in the basement at Head Quarters, probably said, nooo, just give us anything to release please, so Google threw a few pennies towards development, and this is what we got.
 
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nospleen

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I'm on the phone for business a lot Mon - Fri, probably a good couple dozen phone calls a day, so in a work week easily 100+ phone calls weekly, at least. Which is pretty normal, nothing crazy. Business still requires that face to face or talking person to person, can't do everything just via text and e-mail. So a phone with a muffled SCUBA sound really sucks.

My Pixel 4 XL sounded great on the phone, just perfect. Disappointing that the Pixel 5 stepped way down here.

Haptics vibration are weaker too on this Pixel 5.

It's hard to describe, but the phone just feels sort of cheap, like really cheap, as almost an after thought by Google. or like they were thinking, ok this year 2020 with COVID, no new Pixel phone, and the few nerds that work on the Google Pixel team down in the basement at Head Quarters, probably said, nooo, just give us anything to release please, so Google threw a few pennies towards development, and this is what we got.
Not to excuse the crappy speaker. But, wouldn't a headset be easier for work purposes? I couldn't imagine trying to fumble with my phone while typing, taking notes, etc.
 

Ludatyk

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I'm not going to start a new thread just to ask this.

Can anyone see Google releasing a new flagship as soon as March as some rumours have suggested? With the release schedukt this year, it shows anything is possible with Google. But 5 months later?
IMO, I don't think Google will release a new flagship going forward... well, perhaps until we get back to a sense of normalcy. And, that's going to take some time. I think mid-range phones will be their strategy and it kind of suits them. Pixels are known for Stock Android and Point&Shoot Camera Quality... as long as they can provide great performance in those two areas, they will do just fine.

Maybe, I'm looking at it from a U.S perspective. But I think when it all comes down to it... in order to be successful in the flagship space, they have to have a great relationship with carriers. Samsung is known to be in bed with carriers.. adding tons of bloat. But by doing so... carriers make an effort to sell Samsung devices. And, Apple gave Verizon the stage for the iPhone 12.

Why release a new flagship and it's not going to move the numbers like the other competitors? Better off... releasing mid-range phones.
 

Tig Bitties

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Put my SIM card back in my Pixel 4 XL and man this feels like the new premium Google flagship their newer phone and the Pixel 5 now feels like something from a few years ago in comparison.

The 4 XL screen looks sharper. The feel in hand is better and premium. The haptics better.
 

chad.petree

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Put my SIM card back in my Pixel 4 XL and man this feels like the new premium Google flagship their newer phone and the Pixel 5 now feels like something from a few years ago in comparison.

The 4 XL screen looks sharper. The feel in hand is better and premium. The haptics better.
Damn you kinda hate the pixel 5 lol. I love a high res screen, but I can live with it, the iphone 12 has kinda the same resolution, apple hasn't embraced qhd and no one complains.

It's a shame about the not so great haptics and the speaker doesn't bother me that much because I don't tlk on the phone that often and when i do I use the galaxy buds+ which have AWFUL microphones so everything feels like an upgrade, but I can understand why it bothers you so much, because you make LOTS of calls.

To me the worst thing about the phone is definitely the chipset, manufacturers made so many compromises this year because of the stupid 5g, the pixel 5 would be so much better even with last year's snapdragon 855, I keep running into stutters, lags ... it feels silly to have to wait to be able to send a picture after you take one because the camera needs like 2 seconds to process it, yesterday I was shortening a video a 40 second video I took and the phone took like 20 seconds just to be able to cut 15 seconds out of it and it got warm while at it, even posting videos to instagram takes a while, I kinda want to return it, I still have today to do it, but what should I get instead? I don't want to get the iphone 12 out of principle: 64 gb, no 120 hz screen, not great battery life and only face id during the pandemic and all for 876 eur...
 
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Tig Bitties

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In my opinion if you gave a non tech person that doesn't know about phones, you hand them both the Pixel 4 XL and Pixel 5, but didn't say the name and year of either phone.

I would think people would say the 4 XL is the brand new flagship from Google in 2020 and they'd say the Pixel 5 is an older phone from a few years ago.
 

Heat_Fan89

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Put my SIM card back in my Pixel 4 XL and man this feels like the new premium Google flagship their newer phone and the Pixel 5 now feels like something from a few years ago in comparison.

The 4 XL screen looks sharper. The feel in hand is better and premium. The haptics better.
The Pixel 5 has a 432ppi display vs the 4 XL which has a 537ppi display . That's a noticeable difference.

 
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cuzo

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I'm not going to start a new thread just to ask this.

Can anyone see Google releasing a new flagship as soon as March as some rumours have suggested? With the release schedukt this year, it shows anything is possible with Google. But 5 months later?
I seriously doubt google is trying to release any flagship definitely not a phone maybe a tablet or chromebook. The S7 is doing pretty decent for an android tablet so Google may want to try to compete in that space again but phone? Not a chance in the world.
 

Cryates

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Nice! It really is a good phone if you temper expectations. Pixel software is just so damn good.
Ha yeah. Performance in a non-issue for me and I've been happy with everything about the phone that I saw negative on the internet. I've been on a wild ride of phones over the last couple months, but I had went back to my iPhone in preparation for getting the 12 Mini. (I just want a small phone damnit). I do prefer the Pixel experience to iOS these days, and discovered the Pixel 5 was tiny for the screen size.

Like the speakers are totally fine imo, the display is killer, the weight is great, the feel of the back is awesome, the performance is buttery smooth (for my use), Touch ID ftw, battery seems to be great. No complaints on this one. My biggest complaint with the 4a was the stupid ambient light sensor causing the brightness to adjust constantly (even when not moving), and that seems to be rectified for me on the 5.
 

Awesomesince86

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Ha yeah. Performance in a non-issue for me and I've been happy with everything about the phone that I saw negative on the internet. I've been on a wild ride of phones over the last couple months, but I had went back to my iPhone in preparation for getting the 12 Mini. (I just want a small phone damnit). I do prefer the Pixel experience to iOS these days, and discovered the Pixel 5 was tiny for the screen size.

Like the speakers are totally fine imo, the display is killer, the weight is great, the feel of the back is awesome, the performance is buttery smooth (for my use), Touch ID ftw, battery seems to be great. No complaints on this one. My biggest complaint with the 4a was the stupid ambient light sensor causing the brightness to adjust constantly (even when not moving), and that seems to be rectified for me on the 5.

Yeah, it sounds like a perfect device for you. I'm still using it right now but mine will probably go back. I enjoy using bigger phones but the size of the Pixel 5 is getting more comfortable by the day. And of course the software and camera are amazing. My only issue is that coming from a S20 plus I just feel the drop in performance, build quality, speakers, haptics, etc. None are big issues but they add up for me. But those two phones arent meant to be compared really since one has an MSRP of $1200 while the other is $700. So the comparison isnt fair.

Overall, the Pixel 5 is a really good phone. I think at $600 it would be the perfect midrange device.
 

noobinator

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Just to show you how far we've come in 6 years. The Nexus 6 was released in 2014 with a 6" screen and here it is next to the Pixel 5. I remember the Nexus 6 at the time was a massive phone with a huge screen. Crazy that these both have the same 6" screen!

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Cryates

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Yeah, it sounds like a perfect device for you. I'm still using it right now but mine will probably go back. I enjoy using bigger phones but the size of the Pixel 5 is getting more comfortable by the day. And of course the software and camera are amazing. My only issue is that coming from a S20 plus I just feel the drop in performance, build quality, speakers, haptics, etc. None are big issues but they add up for me. But those two phones arent meant to be compared really since one has an MSRP of $1200 while the other is $700. So the comparison isnt fair.

Overall, the Pixel 5 is a really good phone. I think at $600 it would be the perfect midrange device.
For sure. Could have been $599, but if I have no complaints, and it still comes in at $80 cheaper than what I would pay for the 12 Mini (The only other option I'm considering; 128GB SIM-Free) then I'm not going to get too hung up on price.

That said, I'm still likely to order the 12 Mini on Friday to compare the two.
 
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chad.petree

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Ha yeah. Performance in a non-issue for me and I've been happy with everything about the phone that I saw negative on the internet. I've been on a wild ride of phones over the last couple months, but I had went back to my iPhone in preparation for getting the 12 Mini. (I just want a small phone damnit). I do prefer the Pixel experience to iOS these days, and discovered the Pixel 5 was tiny for the screen size.

Like the speakers are totally fine imo, the display is killer, the weight is great, the feel of the back is awesome, the performance is buttery smooth (for my use), Touch ID ftw, battery seems to be great. No complaints on this one. My biggest complaint with the 4a was the stupid ambient light sensor causing the brightness to adjust constantly (even when not moving), and that seems to be rectified for me on the 5.
The pixel got an update a couple of days ago and they tweaked the auto brightness and it maybe a placebo effect but i feel like it works MUCH better
 
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