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Dave245

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As a counter balance I wouldn’t even entertain the S24 U to begin with to leave me with the choice of switching to the Pixel 9 Pro XL. But that’s just me. 😛.

You do you Dave.
Any particular reason? Is it the OS or the hardware? I actually like Samsungs camera and that’s the main reason. My main phone is my iPhone 15 Pro Max, but as a 2nd phone it’s been a Samsung Ultra for the past couple of years.

I did try the Pixel 8 Pro but ultimately it was the battery life that made me return it.
 

andy2141

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Fresh toys on deck today.

So far so good…first time with a foldable
 

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Dave245

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Fresh toys on deck today.

So far so good…first time with a foldable

What do you think about the Pixel 9 Pro Fold? I'm intrigued to hear from someone who is a first time fold user. I have never owned a foldable, in fact I've been critical of them, simply because I fear durability. Glass can only be folded so many times before it will break. I am however very intrigued by them and their bigger display.
 
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andy2141

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What do you think about the Pixel 9 Pro Fold? I'm intrigued to hear from someone who is a first time fold user. I have never owned a foldable, in fact I've been critical of them, simply because I fear durability. Glass can only be folded so many times before it will break. I am however very intrigued by them and their bigger display
Still very early days as I've only had the device for a few hours.

Early impressions are good though. Love the form factor over the XL. Will be using it a fair bit over the weekend, so I'll be able to give a better judgement in a few days. For now though, I'm going all in. Already struggling to find a decent mag safe case so need to get that sorted.

I got a three year warranty with the device so fingers crossed this will cover any issues should they arise.
 
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jajo.j

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I have used a Pixel 9 Pro as a secondary phone next to my iPhone 16 Pro Max for almost a week now and here are some of my impressions.

Like @psp123 wrote, this is surely a year of the Pixel.

The build quality is amazing and I love how the phone feels in my hand. Perfect weight distribution and I prefer the thicker bezel comparing to iPhone as it does not require the same aggressive palm rejection algorithms.

Display is the best of all Androids I have used. It is accurate and the calibration is excellent for photography. iPhone is still slightly superior here. I do notice some minor off-axis tint on the Pixel that I don't see on my iPhone (remains pure white no matter which angle I look at it). Also iOS seems to handle the calibration slightly better when doing different tasks. Games are more vibrant and punchy while photos and websites look "natural". On the Pixel, it seems the calibration is the same no matter what content the display is showing which means that games and entertainment looks a little duller. But overall, this is a display I can easily live with and it looks great.

Camera is a mixed bag. I still prefer iPhone (using regular RAW through a third party app) over Pixel in daylight or medium-low light. But for handheld shots in low light the Pixel is better. I can take better shots using the iPhone but that requires a tripod which is not really convenient at all times. In high resolution mode (50MP) the Pixel is superior in detail and overall quality. It is a great + to be able to shoot 50MP on all three lenses. Apple really needs to allow 48MP Regular RAW (not ProRAW) to compete with this. The only real issue I have with the Pixel camera is how it handles motion which is still much worse than iPhone. It is quite common that fast moving objects in low light looks very artificial (lost legs, heads or other disturbances). Also in some scenes I can see that the Pixel is messing with the photos using AI which can give very strange results. But overall I can use the Pixel for shots that cannot be taken using the iPhone. Also Pixel is superior on astrophotography which is something I really love. But then you need a tripod.

Software is also a mixed bag. Pixel undoubtedly has the best Android flavor for me. Stable, very clean design, no bloatware and overall it feels very mature. My main issue is notifications which are often delivered only when I unlock the phone (or wait hours). iPhone always deliver notifications instantly. It is sad that they still haven't solved these issues and this is probably the main issue that holds me back from using a Pixel as my main phone. It is also clear that Apple looks at their software as an eco system with many different kinds of products and they work seamlessly together. Google cannot match this and unfortunately I really appreciate that Apple takes care of the connection between all my devices so they work perfectly together (especially computer/phone/watch combo).

Battery life is unfortunately not as good as my iPhone - not even close. This is very strange as the Pixel has a bigger battery than 16 Pro Max and a smaller display that should use less power. I guess Tensor is not as efficient as Apples A18.

Performance is another area where the Pixel is quite far behind iPhone. Especially frame rate in games and heavy editing in Lightroom Mobile. Everything takes double the time of the iPhone and generates more heat than the iPhone.

Sound of the internal speakers is also superior on iPhone with a more rich sound. Especially voices sound much more natural on iPhone and more shouty on the Pixel.

I will keep my Pixel as my secondary phone/fun phone and use it a lot for photography. Hopefully in the future, Google can address some of the issues where iPhone is still superior. Then I am not sure which phone that will be my daily driver.
 

Evil Lair

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Just got my Pixel 9 Pro Fold yesterday. First time really using Android so working through a bit of anxiety and learning how things are different. The biggest disappointment after less than 24 hours is face unlock is utter garbage, and has failed at least 12-14 times. When it fails you can't fall back to the fingerprint sensor and have to put in the pin code. Also really don't like that its purely camera based and not lidar like iPhone so it can be fooled with a photo. Otherwise really loving the form factor. When going back to my old iPhone 11 PM, its the same feeling like when I got my first big screen iPhone 6S Max and then picking up the cute little iPhone 5. This really feels like the future happening now and Apple is just letting themselves get left behind even worse when they were ignoring big screens.

Some other things that have stood out:
-Alarms can be set to pause for a specified time. So nice when going on vacation!
-the app drawer and home screen combo makes so much more sense than how iOS handles things.
-Having the real, honest actual Firefox is so awesome, along with all the third party extensions like uBlock Origin.
-I can add my mp3 music just by transferring the files through a computers file browser. Amazing concept. /s
-Surprised by how many apps are also available from iOS. The only ones I miss so far are a couple Apple apps like Books, and Overcast.
-The crease is there and noticeable when the display is off, but you quickly learn to ignore it.
-May have just not found it yet, but no easy way to set timers in the control center.

Sometime today I'll transfer the sim card over and make this official. Really glad I waited and didn't get an iPhone that was e-sim only earlier so I can now easily switch back and forth. This will retire both my iPad mini and iPhone. Now just need to find either a thin case with a kickstand or both of those things as separate items (looking more likely).
 

jajo.j

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The biggest disappointment after less than 24 hours is face unlock is utter garbage

Yeah. I forgot to mention this in my post above.

Unlocking is really crap on my 9 Pro. With a screen protector, the built-in fingerprint reader is pretty unreliable and often require two or three presses to unlock. And face unlock is useless in anything but good light.

This is a real issue coming from an iPhone where unlocking is 100% seamless. I really wish they would bring back the real Face Unlock from Pixel 4 series.
 

hockeyfan81

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Yeah. I forgot to mention this in my post above.

Unlocking is really crap on my 9 Pro. With a screen protector, the built-in fingerprint reader is pretty unreliable and often require two or three presses to unlock. And face unlock is useless in anything but good light.

This is a real issue coming from an iPhone where unlocking is 100% seamless. I really wish they would bring back the real Face Unlock from Pixel 4 series.
you should re-register your fingerprint after installing it.
 

andy2141

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Wow I am jealous. How’s the transition?
Fine. I'm used to moving between devices and operating systems on a regular basis so it's been a doddle to be honest.

Still struggling to find a decent case though. I'm returning the merge grip one that I brought off Amazon. It's junk.

I think I'll have to go for the official Google one and either fit a magsafe ring or change my charging setup in the car.

Someone mentioned above about adding adguard to the DNS settings. I knew about this but never did it on previous phones. Turns out it's a life saver with Android. I can actually use Chrome on this device now.
 
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dk001

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This is a basic battery observation….

Currently use the 15 ProMax - work. And the S24 Ultra - Main.
Been testing the 9 Pro and 9 Pro Fold for the last month.

First the 9 Pro. Battery is pretty decent and on par with my main devices. Maybe a bit less but it easily gets me through a day plus.

Next the 9 Pro Fold. This one needs a bit of help. When I use it as my main I need to add a bit by evening time. I totally think this is due to the much larger screen. Not having apps designed for the screen size doesn’t help. If I use it folded the battery life is about 80% of the 9 Pro. Can squeak through a solid day.

Using Capacity Info as my measuring stick on the Pixels.
 
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Harthag

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it's a great phone but the build quality is poor at best

Could you elaborate? I've heard the opposite, people are praising the build quality from what I've seen.
He can't elaborate because he likely doesn't have one. The 9 Pro XL is the best built Pixel I've used (have had original Nexus phones, Pixel 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8). Cellular reception is miles better than the 8 Pro. It feels like a premium phone now. The display is finally a premium display. I always felt Pixel displays were bush league tier. Speakers are not as good as my iPhone or Samsung phones that I've had, but they are much improved over the 8 Pro I had.

The fingerprint scanner is finally ultrasonic and on par with my S24+. Face unlock leaves a lot to be desired, that's the only glaring issue I wish was addressed. Pixel 4 was ahead of its time, still my favorite Pixel.
 
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dk001

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He can't elaborate because he likely doesn't have one. The 9 Pro XL is the best built Pixel I've used (have had original Nexus phones, Pixel 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8). Cellular reception is miles better than the 8 Pro. It feels like a premium phone now. The display is finally a premium display. I always felt Pixel displays were bush league tier. Speakers are not as good as my iPhone or Samsung phones that I've had, but they are much improved over the 8 Pro I had.

The fingerprint scanner is finally ultrasonic and on par with my S24+. Face unlock leaves a lot to be desired, that's the only glaring issue I wish was addressed. Pixel 4 was ahead of its time, still my favorite Pixel.

Have to agree. Using the 9 Pro alongside my S24U and 15PM, it is solid, works, responds, and operates like a premium flagship level device. An all round quality device. It is more than I expected and am impressed.
 
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Technerd108

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I don't have the Pixel 9 Pro but I have had the P7P and P8P. The P7P was not the best built phone. The Pixel 8 Pro has very good build quality. Each generation improves build quality(along with cost).

So without even owning the Pixel 9 Pro I can pretty much guarantee the build quality is better than the P8P and should be commensurate with the competition in build quality.

Now Google needs to improve the performance of the Tensor add some color temperature adaptive color to the screens in software like Apple with True tone. Double or Quadruple the base PWM from 240. Add ufs 4.0 or better in storage. 3 day battery life.

Until we get a few more of those features above I will be waiting. The Pixel 9 seems like a decent upgrade from the 8. Google is on the right track. I just wish they would be a little more competitive on price.
 
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