Google Pixel Fold

[Ludatyk]

I would go with both of those over the Samsung Fold tbh. The Fold just misses with the outter display. It is almost useless except to read notifications. But to do anything I always had to open unfold the phone. That is a design flaw IMHO

I personally wouldn't state the outer display is almost useless, I can easily interact with it. I use the outer screen daily, but I do admit... it needs to be wider.

oppo design and samsung software is an ideal best foldable.

But I do like the Pixel experience... I just want to be able to tweak certain aspects of the software with Good Lock.

I really don't think that's fair at all tbh. You are looking at a pre-release edition without the final external finish and a rough video at that. Do the inner bezels look ugly? Absolutely. But to state that this looks worse than the N2 given we haven't seen a finished official product is ridiculous IMO. It makes more sense to wait for the keynote before planting down a flag.

The hardware of the GPF is superior to the N2. The inner screen is 7.6" (which is still too small IMO) vs 7.1". That's a huge difference. Both the GPF and N2 have compact outer screens.

How is it not fair? There's a short video of it along with photos. It's only a couple months away... we have the specs and the hardware design.

There's been leaks of how the software will look according to Android 12L... so, Google has been preparing for this for quite awhile.

You cannot judge it without having experienced the software. I have now experienced both (Samsung and Oppo) and they differ little from each other.

I've seen reviewers of the Oppo Find N... I don't necessarily have to experience the software to form an opinion on the matter.

Software just works well. Notifications arrive immediately, multitasking also works fine. But what more do you want?

I'm sure everything works just as advertised, but the aesthetics isn't what I particular care for.

 

[blairh]

The Pixel's hardware isn't superior at all. Why would you think that? The Snapdragon is more powerful, that's a fact. And you can't judge the rest because it's not out yet.

I literally stated the reason in post that you quoted. Give me a 7.6" inner screen vs 7.1" any day of the week. It's a massive advantage on the GPF IMO.

I'll reserve final judgment post-keynote. But what I've seen from Prosser looks terrific other than those inner top and bottom bezels.

 

[blairh]

How is it not fair? There's a short video of it along with photos. It's only a couple months away... we have the specs and the hardware design.

There's been leaks of how the software will look according to Android 12L... so, Google has been preparing for this for quite awhile.

That's a rough video mate. Come on now. You really think it makes sense to make final judgments and declarations now versus just waiting a few more weeks for the official keynote? I don't understand how you can even argue that point. Let's just wait until May 10th where we will see this thing properly. That is a shoddy video at best with a blurred inner screen, not final finish on the outer bezels, and a quick video at that. It's nonsense to make any declarations at this point.

 

[Ludatyk]

That's a rough video mate. Come on now. You really think it makes sense to make final judgments and declarations now versus just waiting a few more weeks for the official keynote? I don't understand how you can even argue that point. Let's just wait until May 10th where we will see this thing properly. That is a shoddy video at best with a blurred inner screen, not final finish on the outer bezels, and a quick video at that. It's nonsense to make any declarations at this point.

I'm including the photos as well.. not just the video. And I'm only critical of the inner display bezels, if it wasn't for that... I would surely go with Google Pixel Fold hardware design.

 

[Achillias]

I literally stated the reason in post that you quoted. Give me a 7.6" inner screen vs 7.1" any day of the week. It's a massive advantage on the GPF IMO.

I'll reserve final judgment post-keynote. But what I've seen from Prosser looks terrific other than those inner top and bottom bezels.

You don't make sense. It's all subjective, but a different screen size doesn't make a phone suddenly superior. I got both, and I find the 7.1 inch screen size better. But that says nothing about the overal hardware.

 

[joshwithachance]

At $1800 I don't see many people ACTUALLY buying one of these. The general public isn't even buying the Fold, which is an established product line... I personally don't like the design (those hideous bezels and weight of nearly 300 grams) either so count me out.

 

[blairh]

You don't make sense. It's all subjective, but a different screen size doesn't make a phone suddenly superior. I got both, and I find the 7.1 inch screen size better. But that says nothing about the overal hardware.

You actually don't have both. There are no foldables at this aspect ratio at 7.6". The Fold's 7.6" screen is not the same in any way to the GPF despite the same screen size.

IMO the GPF at 7.6" is far superior then the same aspect ratio at 7.1". I want that larger screen. In fact I wish it was even larger. I think the majority would take the larger screen size with the same aspect ratio. Hence why I'm saying the GPF is superior hardware to the N2. Plus you are getting stock Android 14 on day one and not dealing with using a Chinese phone internationally and the issues that can arise from that. (Which is well documented on the XDA forums.)

 

[Aneres11]

Plus you are getting stock Android 14 on day one and not dealing with using a Chinese phone internationally and the issues that can arise from that. (Which is well documented on the XDA forums.)

Yup totally agree. The Oppo running its software would steer me well away from it, no matter how good the hardware is. Yuk.

 

[jamezr]

I personally wouldn't state the outer display is almost useless, I can easily interact with it. I use the outer screen daily, but I do admit... it needs to be wider.

as i stated imho it is useless. I can read and look at notifications on the outer display.But that is about all it is good for.
In my experience with the fold 3 and 4 the outer display is too narrow do really respond to text messages or emails.

i found myself taking the extra step of having fully open the phone all the way every time I used it.

 

[jamezr]

You can quite easily spot the bezels in these photos, without needing Google's "official" images there. It doesn't look right in my eyes. I just don't get Google design team.

They don't have to reinvent the wheel. They enter this market quite late, and then they manage to deliver a product that looks even uglier than Samsung's first-generation Fold.

This design is really bad, and even if it has Google software on it, I would never want to spend that much on it. The expected MSRP is also high. It is now up to OnePlus to save the global market, but otherwise (except for Samsung) it will look meager again in my eyes.

well that doesn't make sense....it is all subjective right?

 

[Achillias]

You actually don't have both. There are no foldables at this aspect ratio at 7.6". The Fold's 7.6" screen is not the same in any way to the GPF despite the same screen size.

IMO the GPF at 7.6" is far superior then the same aspect ratio at 7.1". I want that larger screen. In fact I wish it was even larger. I think the majority would take the larger screen size with the same aspect ratio. Hence why I'm saying the GPF is superior hardware to the N2. Plus you are getting stock Android 14 on day one and not dealing with using a Chinese phone internationally and the issues that can arise from that. (Which is well documented on the XDA forums.)

You just show that you didn't read well. I have already indicated several times in this topic that I have the Fold 2, and here you are who ignorantly indicates "you actually don't have both". In addition, your statement is based on hot air. A slightly larger screen on a foldable doesn't make it a superior device, period.

Do you know how stupid that sounds. That would mean that an iPhone Pro is by definition worse than an S Ultra, because the screen is larger. That really doesn't make sense. I know what I'm talking about because, unlike you, I have 2 foldables.

 

[Achillias]

well that doesn't make sense....it is all subjective right?

It does makes sense, I find the Pixel Fold ugly. It's even stated in the sentence you're quoting, and it's not that difficult to even spot it.

 

[blairh]

You just show that you didn't read well. I have already indicated several times in this topic that I have the Fold 2, and here you are who ignorantly indicates "you actually don't have both". In addition, your statement is based on hot air. A slightly larger screen on a foldable doesn't make it a superior device, period.

Do you know how stupid that sounds. That would mean that an iPhone Pro is by definition worse than an S Ultra, because the screen is larger. That really doesn't make sense. I know what I'm talking about because, unlike you, I have 2 foldables.

Mate, you are the one that needs to work on reading comprehension. Go read my last reply to you. I said you don’t have both meaning the Fold screen is not comparable to the GPF. That was clear in my reply. I am saying you don’t have both because the Fold is not comparable.

I am saying the GPF is superior because the screen is larger in the same form factor. Again another thing that I already made clear. If you provide me a foldable with this aspect ratio I want the 7.6” screen not the 7.1” one. I think most agree with me too.

 

[jamezr]

Yup totally agree. The Oppo running its software would steer me well away from it, no matter how good the hardware is. Yuk.

well said...then as @blairh alluded too you get the whole Pixel like experience as well

 

[Aneres11]

well said...then as @blairh alluded too you get the whole Pixel like experience as well

Yup. Which goes a long way for the typical Pixel user / lover. It's a big reason why we buy these phones after all.

 

[Achillias]

Mate, you are the one that needs to work on reading comprehension. Go read my last reply to you. I said you don’t have both meaning the Fold screen is not comparable to the GPF. That was clear in my reply. I am saying you don’t have both because the Fold is not comparable.

I am saying the GPF is superior because the screen is larger in the same form factor. Again another thing that I already made clear. If you provide me a foldable with this aspect ratio I want the 7.6” screen not the 7.1” one. I think most agree with me too.

No, you need to work on your reading comprehension. You conveniently forgot that I own both screen sizes, and use both screen sizes daily. You, on the other hand, dream about it without owning it and then present your own opinion as a fact.

I think you have no idea what the meaning of the word "superiority" actually means. Having a preference for something, does not immediately make it better. Having a taller striker in your team (hypothetically) does not mean that such person is per definition better than an agile player.

In addition, you state the argument that "others most likely agree with you" without being able to substantiate it. It's based on nothing.

 

[Aneres11]

I think you have no idea what the meaning of the word "superiority" actually means. Having a preference for something, does not immediately make it better.

Of course it does, to the individual who holds that preference. Otherwise we'd all just use the same phone and there wouldn't be different offerings out there which cater to people's preferences. Larger screens, telephoto cameras, operating systems. All these "preferences" are the very thing people consider which can make something more superior. To them. Just like you liking your Oppo despite it's horrible software. My opinion, of course.

 

[blairh]

No, you need to work on your reading comprehension. You conveniently forgot that I own both screen sizes, and use both screen sizes daily. You, on the other hand, dream about it without owning it and then present your own opinion as a fact.

I think you have no idea what the meaning of the word "superiority" actually means. Having a preference for something, does not immediately make it better. Having a taller striker in your team (hypothetically) does not mean that such person is per definition better than an agile player.

In addition, you state the argument that "others most likely agree with you" without being able to substantiate it. It's based on nothing.

Again, for the third time now, I am fully aware that you had a Fold. I said you don't have both IMPLYING that your clear comparison of the Fold to the GPF is not valid. Again, I will keep saying this, just because the GF series has a 7.6" screen does not make it a clear comparison to the GPF which has a wildly different aspect ratio. Why are you forcing me to repeat myself again and again?

What exactly am I dreaming about? I'm a former Fold user. And I know what using a tablet with the GPF's aspect ratio will be like.

Yes, I stand by the fact that most people would prefer a larger inner screen than what the N2 offers. That is my opinion. You can feel free to completely disagree. But the trend has been and clearly will continue to be foldables that are 7.6" and larger (not smaller) moving forward.

 

[Ludatyk]

as i stated imho it is useless. I can read and look at notifications on the outer display.But that is about all it is good for.
In my experience with the fold 3 and 4 the outer display is too narrow do really respond to text messages or emails.

I understand and all I did was share my opinion (hence, personally). And I’ve stated, it needs to be wider... with the Fold 4 its been widen to the point where it made a huge difference for me. I can interact with it much better… I can text and respond to family & friends.

But I couldn’t stand the Fold 2 and 3 outer screen, I will agree with you those were useless.

 

[Achillias]

Of course it does, to the individual who holds that preference. Otherwise we'd all just use the same phone and there wouldn't be different offerings out there which cater to people's preferences. Larger screens, telephoto cameras, operating systems. All these "preferences" are the very thing people consider which can make something more superior. To them. Just like you liking your Oppo despite it's horrible software. My opinion, of course.

You're making a mistake there. The word superiority is objectively observable. An opinion is subjective and personal. That's the difference. But this discussion is repeatable. I'm not interested in the Pixel Fold anymore, I just think the design (from what I've seen of it) is ugly. Have fun if you do get one.

 

[Aneres11]

You're making a mistake there. The word superiority is objectively observable. An opinion is subjective and personal. That's the difference. But this discussion is repeatable. I'm not interested in the Pixel Fold anymore, I just think the design (from what I've seen of it) is ugly. Have fun if you do get one.

Very condescending. And cheers, I'm looking forward to getting an ugly fold. ☺️

 

[Ludatyk]

Comment: In defense of the Pixel Fold’s bezels

The Pixel Fold has bezels. As hinted at in previous leaks and now confirmed in the first hands-on one, Google’s...

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I stated in another thread. Those bezels will provide better camera quality compared to the Galaxy Fold... so, that's a positive way of looking at it.

 

[blairh]

Comment: In defense of the Pixel Fold’s bezels

The Pixel Fold has bezels. As hinted at in previous leaks and now confirmed in the first hands-on one, Google’s...

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I stated in another thread. Those bezels will provide better camera quality compared to the Galaxy Fold... so, that's a positive way of looking at it.

I certainly don't see the bezels as a dealbreaker. For me it's the price that is hardest to justify.

 

[Ludatyk]

I certainly don't see the bezels as a dealbreaker. For me it's the price that is hardest to justify.

I don't see the bezels being a dealbreaker as well, just not a fan of it. I'd rather Google did the hole punch instead.

With inflation and everything... I can see how Google came to that price. They looked what Samsung has done with their Galaxy Fold series and realized they are providing users a different experience when it comes to foldable phone (wider cover display and unfolding to landscape). So, they planned according.

 

[Fernandez21]

Just saw this video, has me actually excited! While I still would've preferred something slightly smaller (more like the find n), this thing running stock android has me excited. Will be trading my fold 3 and my s22 to get it.