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MP 1,1-5,1 GPU Compatibility List for cMP

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xy-maps

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Hi, I wanted to ask if there is an update on the RX 6700XT: I could not find a satisfactory answer so far.
Are there now Mac drivers for the RX 6700XT under Monterey? The RX 6800/6900 and even the newer RX6600 series seem to run under Monterey.

Edit: Ok, it looks like there is indeed no no compatibility for the RX 6700 XT. Since the drivers for the just released RX 6600 (Navi23) were added in the latest Beta 3, it looks bad for the 6700 drivers if the Navi 22 chips are skipped.
 
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xy-maps said:
Hi, I wanted to ask if there is an update on the RX 6700XT: I could not find a satisfactory answer so far.
Are there now Mac drivers for the RX 6700XT under Monterey? The RX 6800/6900 and even the newer RX6600 series seem to run under Monterey.

Edit: Ok, it looks like there is indeed no no compatibility for the RX 6700 XT. Since the drivers for the just released RX 6600 (Navi23) were added in the latest Beta 3, it looks bad for the 6700 drivers if the Navi 22 chips are skipped.
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So it looks like even if drivers are released and updated under 12.x.xxx, Navi2xx GPUs will NOT work on any cMP's <6,1 (1,1, 2,1, 3,1, 4,1, 5,1, etc...) due to the lack of AVX Support in the hardware. So the last possible GPU upgrade for cMP's <6,1 are Navi1xx and VegaII GPUs (i.e. RX-5700X or Radeon VII).

Hopefully this changes with time, but I highly doubt it will.
 
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As for the Nvidia CUDA drivers that is. I have a EVGA-GTX-680-4GB (EFI flashed) in a Mac Pro 5.1 (mid 2021) on clean install macOS 10.14 Mojave. So no/yes
 
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I should've clarified: NVIDIA webdrivers and CUDA work with Kepler, Maxwell and Pascal up to High Sierra.

NVIDIA Kepler drivers work natively up to Big Sur, but no CUDA.

The GTX 780 is based on Kepler arch, so it will work, but again, no CUDA
 
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prefuse07 said:
I should've clarified: NVIDIA webdrivers and CUDA work with Kepler, Maxwell and Pascal up to High Sierra.

NVIDIA Kepler drivers work natively up to Big Sur, but no CUDA.

The GTX 780 is based on Kepler arch, so it will work, but again, no CUDA
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The question was if a GPU was supported, nobody mentioned drivers .

And you answered that nVidia GPUs (which means all ) are not supported for Mojave and up , which is not correct.
 
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It would be nice if there was a list of which RX 580 cards work ... we know that the Sapphire Pulse does, and Apple specifically mentions that one.

It appears that the Sapphire Lite and the Nitro also work (some worry about RX 580 power supply issues, but that is another story).

It appears the XFX RX 580 works.

It appears the MSI RX 580 works.

But ... which versions of the those brands work?

It would be useful if users would post their brand and model of their RX 580 cards which work somewhere ... as well as which RX 580s they had problems with.
 
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Melbourne Park said:
It would be nice if there was a list of which RX 580 cards work ... we know that the Sapphire Pulse does, and Apple specifically mentions that one.

It appears that the Sapphire Lite and the Nitro also work (some worry about RX 580 power supply issues, but that is another story).

It appears the XFX RX 580 works.

It appears the MSI RX 580 works.

But ... which versions of the those brands work?

It would be useful if users would post their brand and model of their RX 580 cards which work somewhere ... as well as which RX 580s they had problems with.
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Take a look @ my sig, despite some posts on here saying that XFX RX-580's don't work well/cause issues with macOS, I have literally had ZERO issues with mine. It's been absolutely flawless on both the versions of macOS I have used (up to Big Sur) as well as Windows 10 and Windows 11. I purchased it brand new in late 2019 (November I believe). So I would highly recommend my GPU.

I want to add that I do game on it via Windows 10 and now Windows 11, and again, have had zero issues. I have not tried overclocking or undervolting or messing with it at all, I have just left it as it came. Again, based on my experience, I recommend this XFX RX-580, if you can find one for a good price in this ridiculously stupid GPU market.

Hope that helps!
 
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Well I've done a quick search of this Forum getting a scant number of hits and also this thread and didn't see many references to the NVIDIA Quadro NVS 510 2GB so I'll take a punt on asking a question about it if I may?

It's supposed to be Metal compatible so if I ever wanted a newer MacOS such as Mojave up then I guess I would be in a good position but my main concern is if it is a good choice of card for a 5,1 running High Sierra?

It is Kepler based so that should count for something with High Sierra if I understand the above posts correctly?

Good choice or not?

Thanks & kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
 
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KeesMacPro said:
The Lite version is known for issues in the cMP.
It's easy to recognize : no DVI-D connector, only 2x HDMI and 2x DisplayPort.
The Nitro version works.
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I actually sold my unused still under warranty Pulse Sapphire RX-580!! I'd decided to get a new Macbook M1 Pro or Pro Max for the video and CAD things I want to do.

But now ... I want to wait and find out about the new desktops! and I am cautious about buying the first of any new generation notebook. I was burnt with the Titanium!! So despite selling my card for double its cost - I now need the card!!

It appears to me that Sapphire replaced the Pulse RX580 with the Nitro.

I've seen various claims about power usage and the Nitro as well ... and its confusing. For instance, people say - including experts such as tsialex - say the standard Pulse works with an additional power cable twin 6 pin to 8 pin - but the Nitro doesn't.

However, people say the Pulse uses 185 watts max. But the Pulse's specifications are 225 watts. The Nitro's is 235 watts.

The XFX specs listed by B&H, say that it uses 185 watts. And that the XFX and the MSI (one which commonly works too) both use much faster memory than the Pulse.

I'm guessing the Nitro uses faster memory than the Pulse, and also may have some cooling improvements.

Some say it's stupid to not provide full power to a Nitro - via the PIXLAS mod.

Some users here though are using the Nitro with the same auxiliary power used for the standard Pulse. With just a 10 watt difference, I do wonder if the Nitro would be unsuitable. It's a shame we cannot cap the speed of our GPUs - if we could, then the Nitro would be just fine. Although its more bulky than the standard Pulse.

I'd like a list of the different card brands with the specs ...

And when I look at the PIXLAS mod, I am tempted to just buy a fanless external power supply. They don't cost much, and they remove all but the PCie motherboard load from the GPU.
 
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I also think the Nitro card may be slightly thicker than a pulse, it may block the next slot (or make it very tight).
 
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I found the below picture on google/reddit.

Based on the lack of space -- I would personally NOT install the Nitro+ in the 5,1, since it's a beast of a card, and even if it does have 3 fans, I still think it would get too hot (given the fact that it takes up all that room), not to mention the bottom half of it blocks the 5,1's fan.

It also looks to be dual-and-a-half/triple-slot, and it doesn't appear that the owner can close up that slot above it -- that would bug the hell out of me

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prefuse07 said:
I found the below picture on google/reddit.

Based on the lack of space -- I would personally NOT install the Nitro+ in the 5,1, since it's a beast of a card, and even if it does have 3 fans, I still think it would get too hot (given the fact that it takes up all that room), not to mention the bottom half of it blocks the 5,1's fan.

It also looks to be dual-and-a-half/triple-slot, and it doesn't appear that the owner can close up that slot above it -- that would bug the hell out of me
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Looking at the size and the fact that it has 3 fans, this picture is of a RX VEGA 56/64 Nitro+.
And connected to the 2 PCI power connectors on the backplane........ how to cook a MP....

The RX 580 Nitro+ is ~260mm long (max= ~295mm in cMP) and as @MarkC426 mentioned a bit thicker than the Pulse (43mm).
 
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@prefuse07, I don't think the comments were at all personal. We all appreciate us making comments, and also corrections, opinions and further comments are not meant to insult, they are just adding to all of our knowledge. We are not professional journalists here! Its upsetting for everyone if a poster gets offended! Especially if a comment was never mean't to offend! Other posters added to your comment - which was the right thing to do! We all learnt from those additional comments as well as yours!

I'm grateful about that pic too - those Vega 56 cards can be quite good value compared to RX 580 Cards.

About your XFX card - I am unsure of how many versions of the card they made?

A problem with the XFX card IMO (being in Australia) is that it appears to be a card used for mining. There are several available at the moment, but when I looked at a seller's other items being sold, there was a long list of XFX cards ... hence the seller was selling ex mining cards IMO.

I'm going to have to buy a used MSI card I think ... having sold my unused Sapphire Pulse!!! I hope it fits OK.

The only good thing about me selling my unused Sapphire, is that it's made me decide to keep the Mac Pro going for a longer time. I will do my things on that machine for another year or so. By then the notebooks will have a revision or their faults will be well reported, and if the desktop Mac Pro is good value, I might jump into one of those.

I'm am tempted with a Vega 56 - my research shows they use less power than the standard RX 580.

AMD WX 7100 - 130 watts
Sapphire Pulse - 225 watts
Vega 56 - 210 watts
Sapphire Nitro - 235 watts
Vega 64 - 295 watts

I should mention you can buy in the USA the WX 7100 - but for me to import it, I'd get extra taxes. But with the inflated prices of RX 580s at the moment - the 7100 card makes a lot of sense. It's very compact at just one slot and very power efficient, it would be extremely reliable as its longer warranty testifies to, and for CAD or line drawing work very powerful. Two of them in a CMP would be very powerful for video as well. But then ... the M processors approach!!

So I do not know why the card Vega 56 is recommended to have alternative power supply (Pixlas mod or a separate power supply) rather than the standard Sapphire Pulse's split cable additional power supply?

However for me there is no DVI port on a Vega 56. And I use that port (although my colour calibrated monitor does have alternative input ports).

Anyone with some knowledge of the Vega 56 would be great ... there are lots of different makers of them ...

Has anyone used the Sapphire Pulse 4GB RX580? They seem much better value ...
 
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