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tsialex

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tsialex..... can I send you my computer or my SSD if that would work?, LOL
Not a good idea from the start, first the shipping charges and taxes, also who is gonna help you when anything happens?

If you want to use a MacPro5,1 in 2022, you need to learn how to do it yourself or pay for support locally. Resources to do it yourself are available, there are even point and click options like OCLP.
 
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Not a good idea from the start, first the shipping charges and taxes, also who is gonna help you when anything happens?

If you want to use a MacPro5,1 in 2022, you need to learn how to do it yourself or pay for support locally. Resources to do it yourself are available, there are even point and click options like OCLP.
Just joking really.....I have my 6,1 though
Then just stay on Mojave
Whatever
 

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Oh wasn't offended at all. I just don't care for OC, since I don't need it. I have actually been trying to reinstall Catalina on my 12 core. My hdd quit on me, and no I didn't have a back up, so I had to reinstall Mojave. I have 2 Mac Pro 6,1 that I run Monterey on so I don't really need OC to do that. I have a 4,1 quad that is flashed to 5,1 & the firmware to 1.44.0.0.0.0 on both so have Mojave on both also. I have had nothing but problems trying to get Catalina on them and I can't figure out why since I had it installed when it first came out. Now I just get an error code and other times will get the 15,7 can't be installed on this computer. I will probably end up selling both of them but just trying to get Catalina both of them. I've probably run dosdudes patch 10 times with no success on the OS install. I can see one machine doing it but not both. No one on here seems to have a solution just to run OC, no offense intended either, which I don't want anyway. If I planned to keep them and didn't have the 6,1s, yeah, I would try to really do the OC thingy. But I appreciate your reply and help.
 

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Oh wasn't offended at all. I just don't care for OC, since I don't need it. I have actually been trying to reinstall Catalina on my 12 core. My hdd quit on me, and no I didn't have a back up, so I had to reinstall Mojave. I have 2 Mac Pro 6,1 that I run Monterey on so I don't really need OC to do that. I have a 4,1 quad that is flashed to 5,1 & the firmware to 1.44.0.0.0.0 on both so have Mojave on both also. I have had nothing but problems trying to get Catalina on them and I can't figure out why since I had it installed when it first came out. Now I just get an error code and other times will get the 15,7 can't be installed on this computer. I will probably end up selling both of them but just trying to get Catalina both of them. I've probably run dosdudes patch 10 times with no success on the OS install. I can see one machine doing it but not both. No one on here seems to have a solution just to run OC, no offense intended either, which I don't want anyway. If I planned to keep them and didn't have the 6,1s, yeah, I would try to really do the OC thingy. But I appreciate your reply and help.
You say you REALLY don't want OpenCore, for whatever reason (but you want Catalina).
Surely using the dosdude patch is just as 'sketchy' as OpenCore.....?

It may well be fine and dandy, but I am a 'tinhat' user, and only install legit versions from source.

Plus this is the gpu thread.....:p
 
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amishallin

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If you mean 6x00 series like 6800XT, 6900XT in a cMP (2009, 2010, 2012), unfortunately it has been a no go.
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Was thinking more like the 6600XT (2.0-2.2 slot card depending on variant) since it only needs 1 8pin power connector and is supported in Monterey 12.1. Seems like the next possible upgrade path for the RX 580 for those of us without the pixlas mod.

Possibly try a Sapphire or Asrock variant if I can find 1 priced appropriately. The worst that could happen is it doesn't work and I put it in my PC. Could try the card under Linux on the cMP 5,1 too.
 

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Was thinking more like the 6600XT (2.0-2.2 slot card depending on variant) since it only needs 1 8pin power connector and is supported in Monterey 12.1. Seems like the next possible upgrade path for the RX 580 for those of us without the pixlas mod.

Possibly try a Sapphire or Asrock variant if I can find 1 priced appropriately. The worst that could happen is it doesn't work and I put it in my PC. Could try the card under Linux on the cMP 5,1 too.
No one ver got a NAVI 2x GPU, RX 6x000 series of graphic cards, working with a MacPro5,1. Install the card and your Mac Pro won't POST. Don't matter if is via PCIe or Thunderbolt, MacPro5,1 won't work with a NAVI 2x GPU.

Navi 1x, RX 5x000 series of graphic cards works fine with a MacPro5,1.

Navi 2x, works fine with MacPro6,1 via Thunderbolt.
 
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You say you REALLY don't want OpenCore, for whatever reason (but you want Catalina).
Surely using the dosdude patch is just as 'sketchy' as OpenCore.....?

It may well be fine and dandy, but I am a 'tinhat' user, and only install legit versions from source.

Plus this is the gpu thread.....:p
Yes, I'm aware of what thread it is. Hope it didn't ruin your day having to read it. My having or not having OC is my business for WHATEVER reason. Don't concern yourself over it. FWIW, I installed OC and running Monterey on my 112 core, 5,1. You have a nice day, OK.......
 

amishallin

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No one ver got a NAVI 2x GPU, RX 6x000 series of graphic cards, working with a MacPro5,1. Install the card and your Mac Pro won't POST. Don't matter if is via PCIe or Thunderbolt, MacPro5,1 won't work with a NAVI 2x GPU.

Navi 1x, RX 5x000 series of graphic cards works fine with a MacPro5,1.

Navi 2x, works fine with MacPro6,1 via Thunderbolt.
Interesting. Thanks.
 

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Funny thing for me, is that one reason for the RX 580 was for video resolution enhancement. So I bought for a good Black Friday price, Topaz labs video enhancement software. I had tried it on my 2017 Macbook Pro, which has a separate GPU.

So - it doesn't work on the CMP! It requires a CPU that is from 2016 onwards !!! Hah hah - so much for my research!!! ?

Fortunately it will run on my not used PC ... and it will run on M processors now ...
 

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My having or not having OC is my business for WHATEVER reason.
Absolutely, so stop posting about it , this is not even the topic here.
No one on here seems to have a solution just to run OC, no offense intended either, which I don't want anyway.
Don't you think that if uncountables succesfully installed either OC or the Dosdude patched install , you may be overseeing something and/or executing something incorrectly?
I'm convinced that lots of people are willing to help if you'd post your issue in an adequate/new thread along with a detailed list of the steps you've taken , hardware installed etc etc
TLDR: you could start a new thread about your issue, if not because you think it's your own business then stop complaining about a lack of support here.

EDIT: Looks like you already started a thread about this , so post your complains, thoughts and questions there.
Have a nice day.
 
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antonio.vazquez

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Hi,

I have a MB 5.1, and I want to find out a cheap graphic card better than I have (Nvidia 630 2GB. Does anybody help me?
I'm finding an AMD Radeon with boot screen logo if possible. I'm using OCLP with Big Sur (I think that I don't need to flash the GPU ir order to have screen logo)

All help is appreciated due I'm a newbie in this.

Kind Regards
 

Popsi-DBW

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Would a RX580 work without any mods/flashing on a mid 2012 5,1 running OC Big Sur - most importantly 3 monitors?

I currently have a flashed 2GB GTX 680 all 3 monitors work without any issues.
 

tsialex

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Would a RX580 work without any mods/flashing on a mid 2012 5,1 running OC Big Sur - most importantly 3 monitors?

I currently have a flashed 2GB GTX 680 all 3 monitors work without any issues.
If you buy one that have the same output configuration (same personality) as a the original Sapphire Pulse RX 580, yes.

The cost reduced Sapphire Pulse RX 580 without the DVI output, and any models from other manufactures that don't follow the same personality as the original Sapphire Pulse, won't work with 3 displays.
 
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hwojtek

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The cost reduced Sapphire Pulse RX 580 without the DVI output, and any models from other manufactures that don't follow the same personality as the original Sapphire Pulse, won't work with 3 displays.
FWIW I run three 4k displays from a RX570 with three DP and one HDMI ports, but it seems RX580 is different in this regard?
 

tsialex

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FWIW I run three 4k displays from a RX570 with three DP and one HDMI ports, but it seems RX580 is different in this regard?
This depends on the internal arrangement of the GPU ports, the Sapphire Pulse RX580 cost reduced don't match the personality of Sapphire Pulse.

Other GPUs with different arrangements than the personality expected by the drivers also don't work. A common model here, PCYes RX 580 with 3xDisplayPort + 1xHDMI, only work with HDMI and one DP while the older model with 1xDVI-D + 3xDisplayPort + 1xHDMI works correctly.
 
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Does anyone have a link for instructions on how to flash a AMD Radeon RX 480 to Radeon RX 580 firmware so that I can run Mojave and have a boot screen? Its a PC card.

PS I have never flashed graphics card before.
 

hwojtek

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Does anyone have a link for instructions on how to flash a AMD Radeon RX 480 to Radeon RX 580 firmware so that I can run Mojave and have a boot screen? Its a PC card.
PS I have never flashed graphics card before.
It will run Mojave as it is and you will need to use OpenCore anyway, so boot screen will not help. Also, you can not make a RX 580 out of RX 480.
 

Melbourne Park

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It will run Mojave as it is and you will need to use OpenCore anyway, so boot screen will not help. Also, you can not make a RX 580 out of RX 480.
I myself use the standard RX 580.

But the GPU thread discusses that the RX480 can be flashed with RX 580 firmware, which results in a card almost as fast as my RX 580. Although I've read there is not much difference in performance anyway. Memory on the card and what apps you use, is likely more important than upgrading the firmware - IMO. Also the RX 480 has the advantage in that it is much more narrow than the RX 580, hence it doesn't obstruct a PCIe slot when placed in #2 PCIe slot, which the RX 580 does hide the #3 PCIe slot. I think it may run cooler too.

While many of these cards can be flashed to boot under 10.14.6, after that they will not. So for later operating systems than 10.14, Opencore (and some other ways) is necessary, and Opencore gives you a boot screen.

But I haven't done that yet ...
 

hwojtek

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While many of these cards can be flashed to boot under 10.14.6, after that they will not.

I run a non-flashed 570 8GB in Monterey and it works in virtually any OS I wish to throw on it. Explain it to me like to a kid, because it seems I'm not getting something accurately here.

I myself use the standard RX 580.
But the GPU thread discusses that the RX480 can be flashed with RX 580 firmware, which results in a card almost as fast as my RX 580. Although I've read there is not much difference in performance anyway. Memory on the card and what apps you use, is likely more important than upgrading the firmware - IMO.

The reflash will not make a 580, actually it may rather cripple the card. What would I do:
  • dump the current 480 BIOS
  • edit this BIOS with clock values close to the RX580 so you'd be on par performance-wise. They are anyway, but if you really need this... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • not change anything else
  • flash this BIOS to the card
  • not bother with boot screens because that's what you have Open Core for.
Use Windows and tools from https://www.igorslab.de/en/red-bios...even-more-stable-overclocking-navi-unlimited/
 
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