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sfalatko

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tried numerous times to boot into Mojave with just the 510 installed and it just won't boot... sigh.
How are you trying to boot into Mojave? Do you have Mojave installed on a SSD in one of the bays or are you trying to install Mojave from a usb stick?
 

crusetech

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Dec 20, 2022
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How are you trying to boot into Mojave? Do you have Mojave installed on a SSD in one of the bays or are you trying to install Mojave from a usb stick?
I have High Sierra, Catalina, Mojave, Monterey installed on a SSD in bay 1 each in their own partition. Works great when I only have the GT 120 installed in PCIe Slot 1. I can boot into each of these OS. High Sierra is the only instance where I can install the 510 into Slot 2, connect the additional 4 monitors and have it boot into the OS.

Ideally I want 1 GPU that is capable of driving at least 4 monitors that has an EFI boot so I can go between operating systems on a cold start.
 

Nguyen Duc Hieu

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I have High Sierra, Catalina, Mojave, Monterey installed on a SSD in bay 1 each in their own partition. Works great when I only have the GT 120 installed in PCIe Slot 1. I can boot into each of these OS. High Sierra is the only instance where I can install the 510 into Slot 2, connect the additional 4 monitors and have it boot into the OS.

Ideally I want 1 GPU that is capable of driving at least 4 monitors that has an EFI boot so I can go between operating systems on a cold start.

That GPU might be the flashed RX580.
 

sfalatko

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I have High Sierra, Catalina, Mojave, Monterey installed on a SSD in bay 1 each in their own partition. Works great when I only have the GT 120 installed in PCIe Slot 1. I can boot into each of these OS. High Sierra is the only instance where I can install the 510 into Slot 2, connect the additional 4 monitors and have it boot into the OS.

Ideally I want 1 GPU that is capable of driving at least 4 monitors that has an EFI boot so I can go between operating systems on a cold start.
High Sierra is the last macOS version that supports dual GPUs.
 

MacProRumours

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Oct 18, 2021
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Is anyone here using a Quadro K5200 or K5000? What's the GPU fan behaviour under regular use?
Thanks.
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I would be running a Quadro k5200, but I'll need to flash it first! I have run a K5000 without problem (2012 cMP). Any advice on flashing please? What would I need to do. I'd report to you the fan behaviour if I can get it going and if its of any interest. Thanks.
 

crusetech

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Dec 20, 2022
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Mini 6-pin to 8 Pin cord arrived this AM. FINALLY, RX580 (Brand new) unflashed is driving 4 x monitors in Mojave. Now to figure out some kind of boot screen and install the faster CPUs once the thermal paste arrives.

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crusetech

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Dec 20, 2022
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I can't believe it... Ventura up and running with all monitors active. I'm giving up while I"m ahead and before I break something :)
 

h9826790

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Mini 6-pin to 8 Pin cord arrived this AM. FINALLY, RX580 (Brand new) unflashed is driving 4 x monitors in Mojave. Now to figure out some kind of boot screen and install the faster CPUs once the thermal paste arrives.

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I think you better connect the 6pin as well. Sapphire changed their mind, and remove that "6pin is optional" in the card's spec.

I don't know the reason behind. May be only the newer card has no such option (but the older card still have). Or users reports showed that pre-mature failure may occur if leave that 6pins open.
 

crusetech

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I think you better connect the 6pin as well. Sapphire changed their mind, and remove that "6pin is optional" in the card's spec.

I don't know the reason behind. May be only the newer card has no such option (but the older card still have). Or users reports showed that pre-mature failure may occur if leave that 6pins open.
it's been running all day. Found a nifty App called GPU Monitor and then ran the Heaven benchmark. Needless to say I just ordered the pixlas mod components :) May as well. The App reported almost 350W being pulled from the Card. Averaging 93W Consumption at Idle.

One item to mention. The cable I used was a dual mini-6 pin to 8 Pin. Regardless, I will pixlas the PS.
 
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h9826790

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it's been running all day. Found a nifty App called GPU Monitor and then ran the Heaven benchmark. Needless to say I just ordered the pixlas mod components :) May as well. The App reported almost 350W being pulled from the Card. Averaging 93W Consumption at Idle.
For info, that number is erronous, you better ignore that.

If you want to know the power consumption, monitor the PCIe slot + Booster A & B's current.

e.g. PCIe slot 2.5A, Booster A 3.1A, Booster B 3.3A.

Then (2.5 + 3.1 + 3.3) x12V = 106.8W

I did some study here

From the screen captures, you can see when the RX580 draws about 225W, that "Total Power" reported 393W.

When it draws about ~185W, that paramter showed 345W.

Both numbers are way off, and outside the spec (my RX580 is the PULSE, no mechanism to let it draw 393W)
 

klover137006

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Jan 19, 2021
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Mine is a genuine 5,1 and the bug and I experienced the bug with a (flashed) GTX 680. Once I've flashed this card I'll make sure to report the results here.
Now I've successfully flashed my Sapphire R9 280 card using the the script bundle provided by the Netkas forum and still no sign of the racing fan bug, for anyone wondering.

I'd like to ask one thing though: the Netkas forum thread is a long exhausting one so I got tired of reading through the pages and just decided to download the bundle linked on the first page and follow the instructions. It worked fine, but I read something about a 2nd updated bundle, but I couldn't find it. Do I miss out on anything by using the first bundle?
 

NC12

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Nov 12, 2020
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I think you better connect the 6pin as well. Sapphire changed their mind, and remove that "6pin is optional" in the card's spec.

I don't know the reason behind. May be only the newer card has no such option (but the older card still have). Or users reports showed that pre-mature failure may occur if leave that 6pins open.
I’ve been running a 580 on a single 8 pin for years now and it’s been perfectly fine. But that being said my card is one of the older models perhaps there are problems with a single 8 pin setup on newer card as you said
 

Dochartaigh

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I have to say, I was literally searching for FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT the other day... and finding a metal compatible card for my 2009 Mac Pro (which thinks its a 5,1 2010) to run Mojave is an absolute **** show... unless you want to pay ~$150 USD for a video card (where I can buy an ENTIRE 2012 Mac Pro for literally $200 by me...).

Sure, I've found other cards, which are around what I want to pay (maybe $50-70ish), LOTS of them, which say they *might* be compatible... but when I google the exact model (since there seems to be... oh, literally 80 different versions of EACH card by multiple manufacturers all with slightly different names... of which I can commonly find ZERO instances of that exact card name with "metal" or "mojave" via google search to confirm it'll actually work... and with so many eBay sellers offering NO returns, that is not something I would risk that money on...

So, long rant short, I use my 2009 Mac Pro in my garage is a headless media server most of the time (although there is technically a monitor hooked up to it), so do NOT need anything video-wise besides going through Finder windows, but DO need Mojave functionality... Does anybody know of any current GUARANTEED WORKING metal/Mojave-compatible cards on USA eBay right now I could buy (under ~$70), WITH an option for return, just in case?

Any help would be appreciated... My funds are limited (after buying a 2023 Mac mini since my 2012 died...) so I can either juice my ancient Mac Pro server (Mojave seems to fix my file sharing issues High Sierra has), or literally buy a new $599 Mac mini + ~$499+ TB3/4 4-Bay 3.5" HDD enclosure (new spec everything is required for fast transfer, unfortunately, since NO Mac supports USB 3.2 2x2 which I could get a WAY cheaper enclosures for) ...which I do NOT want to have to charge that craziness to my credit card... (just trying to limp by for a few more years).
 

tsialex

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I have to say, I was literally searching for FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT the other day... and finding a metal compatible card for my 2009 Mac Pro (which thinks its a 5,1 2010) to run Mojave is an absolute **** show... unless you want to pay ~$150 USD for a video card (where I can buy an ENTIRE 2012 Mac Pro for literally $200 by me...).

Sure, I've found other cards, which are around what I want to pay (maybe $50-70ish), LOTS of them, which say they *might* be compatible... but when I google the exact model (since there seems to be... oh, literally 80 different versions of EACH card by multiple manufacturers all with slightly different names... of which I can commonly find ZERO instances of that exact card name with "metal" or "mojave" via google search to confirm it'll actually work... and with so many eBay sellers offering NO returns, that is not something I would risk that money on...

So, long rant short, I use my 2009 Mac Pro in my garage is a headless media server most of the time (although there is technically a monitor hooked up to it), so do NOT need anything video-wise besides going through Finder windows, but DO need Mojave functionality... Does anybody know of any current GUARANTEED WORKING metal/Mojave-compatible cards on USA eBay right now I could buy (under ~$70), WITH an option for return, just in case?

Any help would be appreciated... My funds are limited (after buying a 2023 Mac mini since my 2012 died...) so I can either juice my ancient Mac Pro server (Mojave seems to fix my file sharing issues High Sierra has), or literally buy a new $599 Mac mini + ~$499+ TB3/4 4-Bay 3.5" HDD enclosure (new spec everything is required for fast transfer, unfortunately, since NO Mac supports USB 3.2 2x2 which I could get a WAY cheaper enclosures for) ...which I do NOT want to have to charge that craziness to my credit card... (just trying to limp by for a few more years).

 

MarkC426

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I have to say, I was literally searching for FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT the other day... and finding a metal compatible card for my 2009 Mac Pro (which thinks its a 5,1 2010) to run Mojave is an absolute **** show... unless you want to pay ~$150 USD for a video card (where I can buy an ENTIRE 2012 Mac Pro for literally $200 by me...).
If you want a decent card, pay decent money.
Just be grateful you CAN buy a complete Mac for peanuts if you wanted to.

Many users here (myself included) have had our cMP for 12+ years from new and so appreciate the value of the machine, having upgraded over the course of a decade.
I would be very surprised to find a decent machine for $200....:oops:
 
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Dochartaigh

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Thank you for the link. First is OOS on eBay. I did search for "zotac geforce gt 710 zone edition 2gb" and those are around ~100-125 shipped... Did another less specific search and found this one for $60 shipped - think it'll work? Not listed in the description as "zone edition", but the sticker says it is! (found cheaper ones with 1GB... but assume the 2GB is key).


This post seems to be hopeful for the Zotac 710 so think I should give it a try?


2nd one, the GT 630 "684455-002 702084-001 B4J92AT" google says "it isn’t recognized by the Mojave installer as a metal card" - and the entire point of this is to install Mojave (AND I guess I should add, not have to resort to OpenCore type stuff), so I guess that one is out unless I'm missing something.





If you want a decent card, pay decent money.
Just be grateful you CAN buy a complete Mac for peanuts if you wanted to.
The thing is it's been negated to a mere file server (because of it's AWESOME 4x internal 3.5" bays)... literally use it for nothing else intensive whatsoever (ok, it's alto the houses VPN machine for torrents too...), so do not need a decent video cards at all (unless I mis-understand what else they do... but I'm doing no graphics or 3D work, no gaming, etc., so assume the crappiest/cheapest metal compatible card for Mojave will be just fine!). Plus it's only used via mac's built-in screen sharing anyway, which is bad quality and is not smooth at all!
 
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tsialex

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Thank you for the link. First is OOS on eBay. I did search for "zotac geforce gt 710 zone edition 2gb" and those are around ~100-125 shipped... Did another less specific search and found this one for $60 shipped - think it'll work? Not listed in the description as "zone edition", but the sticker says it is! (found cheaper ones with 1GB... but assume the 2GB is key).


This post seems to be hopeful for the Zotac 710 so think I should give it a try?

Forget that. Horrible card for $30, insane for $60.

2nd one, the GT 630 "684455-002 702084-001 B4J92AT" google says "it isn’t recognized by the Mojave installer as a metal card" - and the entire point of this is to install Mojave (AND I guess I should add, not have to resort to OpenCore type stuff), so I guess that one is out unless I'm missing something.

It's the same for all NVIDIA Kepler GPUs and MacPro5,1, including the GT 710. You need to install Mojave from High Sierra - booting from USB won't work since the USB installer fails to detect any NVIDIA card as METAL supported.

Get this one, even if you have to buy from AliExpress.
 

klover137006

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Jan 19, 2021
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I have to say, I was literally searching for FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT the other day... and finding a metal compatible card for my 2009 Mac Pro (which thinks its a 5,1 2010) to run Mojave is an absolute **** show... unless you want to pay ~$150 USD for a video card (where I can buy an ENTIRE 2012 Mac Pro for literally $200 by me...).

Sure, I've found other cards, which are around what I want to pay (maybe $50-70ish), LOTS of them, which say they *might* be compatible... but when I google the exact model (since there seems to be... oh, literally 80 different versions of EACH card by multiple manufacturers all with slightly different names... of which I can commonly find ZERO instances of that exact card name with "metal" or "mojave" via google search to confirm it'll actually work... and with so many eBay sellers offering NO returns, that is not something I would risk that money on...

So, long rant short, I use my 2009 Mac Pro in my garage is a headless media server most of the time (although there is technically a monitor hooked up to it), so do NOT need anything video-wise besides going through Finder windows, but DO need Mojave functionality... Does anybody know of any current GUARANTEED WORKING metal/Mojave-compatible cards on USA eBay right now I could buy (under ~$70), WITH an option for return, just in case?

Any help would be appreciated... My funds are limited (after buying a 2023 Mac mini since my 2012 died...) so I can either juice my ancient Mac Pro server (Mojave seems to fix my file sharing issues High Sierra has), or literally buy a new $599 Mac mini + ~$499+ TB3/4 4-Bay 3.5" HDD enclosure (new spec everything is required for fast transfer, unfortunately, since NO Mac supports USB 3.2 2x2 which I could get a WAY cheaper enclosures for) ...which I do NOT want to have to charge that craziness to my credit card... (just trying to limp by for a few more years).
I'm running Mojave on my Mac Pro 5,1 (2010 however, not 2009) using a Sapphire R9 280 which can be found pretty cheap on ebay.
 

Dochartaigh

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Feb 3, 2023
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It's the same for all NVIDIA Kepler GPUs and MacPro5,1, including the GT 710. You need to install Mojave from High Sierra - booting from USB won't work since the USB installer fails to detect any NVIDIA card as METAL supported.

Get this one, even if you have to buy from AliExpress.
Thanks for clearing that up – I get it now. As long as I install Mojave from inside High Sierra (NOT via USB stick like I normally do) it'll be fine, then once it's rebooted and running Mojave it'll be seen as a proper Mojave-compatible metal card and I'll have no issues (besides, I guess, not being able to see the gray boot screen with apple logo and progress bar - that WILL cause issues when it's doing an update as I might think it's frozen with no status displayed if it's been black-screened for like a half hour lol... but I'll live).

So, found this BNIB HP one for $50 shipped. Doesn't have all the model numbers listed in that article, but DOES have the "B4J92AT" it ends with so I assume this is the one (although the box calls it "HP Promo Nvidia"). Going to snag this unless there's any issues! (as I like brand new!)

If the above isn't good, I found this used one for $35 (which would MUCH rather have the BNIB one above if it'll work though, I can spare the extra $15).



I'm running Mojave on my Mac Pro 5,1 (2010 however, not 2009) using a Sapphire R9 280 which can be found pretty cheap on ebay.
Found this "Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 280 OC 3GB DDR5 PCI-E DVI HDMI DP" for $50 shipped if the above aren't any good.




And thanks all. I was hesitant to post a whiny "I can't find anything, find it for me" post lol, but my head was spinning with all these similar-yet-dissimilar models and kinda being in a bind because my server hasn't been fully usable for the last ~week (Ventura and High Sierra incompatibility... where Ventura and Mojave seems to be fine) -- meaning I've been shuttling data via USB drive on occasion back and forth which isn't fun!
 

tsialex

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So, found this BNIB HP one for $50 shipped. Doesn't have all the model numbers listed in that article, but DOES have the "B4J92AT" it ends with so I assume this is the one (although the box calls it "HP Promo Nvidia"). Going to snag this unless there's any issues! (as I like brand new!)

I've checked my cards and "B4J92AT" is not in any label, mine are 684455-002 and 702084-001, but I've saw this reference several times in the past as the part number for the replacement boxed version, so, should work fine.
 

Dochartaigh

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Feb 3, 2023
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I've checked my cards and "B4J92AT" is not in any label, mine are 684455-002 and 702084-001, but I've saw this reference several times in the past as the part number for the replacement boxed version, so, should work fine.
And crap, just saw that the seller doesn't accept returns either... but I still might chance it...

From that forum post you linked to here, the 2nd link lists ""684455-002 702084-001 B4J92AT"" as the FULL model number... the last "B4J92AT" part that ebay listing matches so I think I'll go for it. Wish me luck - and thanks again for your help.
 
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