MP 1,1-5,1 GPU Compatibility List for cMP

[flyproductions]

With a compatible new vBIOS chip, an RX580 might be able to be flashed with Mac Vid Card vBIOS to produce a pre-boot configuration screen (boot screen)

Since there is this GOP-enabler around, all this MVC-you-are-stealing-my-property-dilemma might finally well be a thing of the past!

I just planted this into the ROMs of a GeForce GTX 1070 as well as a Radeon RX 570. Both have their own minor edits to be made to the header of the image (Device-/Vendor-ID and some more) and the Radeon ROM had to be truncated a bit to still fit on the chip. But then it all worked like a charm! Bootscreen with the Boot Picker working. No difference to a "real" flashed card visible. No messing around with soldering chips. Nothing.

 

[zephonic]

Just jumping in here to say I tip my hat to you folks who keep the cMP running!

(I migrated to an MBP last year, but my cMP is still on standby mode just in case I need to open older projects etc.)

 

[OldMacPro2]

And crap, just saw that the seller doesn't accept returns either... but I still might chance it...

From that forum post you linked to here, the 2nd link lists ""684455-002 702084-001 B4J92AT"" as the FULL model number... the last "B4J92AT" part that ebay listing matches so I think I'll go for it. Wish me luck - and thanks again for your help.

A little late in replying, but I've got one of these HP RX 460 2GB cards in my cMP 4,1->5,1.

It's worked in everything from High Sierra, Mojave, and now Big Sur (using OC), with full "metal" compatibility.

I paid about $50 for mine, and it's even cheaper now.

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[Dochartaigh]

A little late in replying, but I've got one of these HP RX 460 2GB cards in my cMP 4,1->5,1.

It's worked in everything from High Sierra, Mojave, and now Big Sur (using OC), with full "metal" compatibility.

I paid about $50 for mine, and it's even cheaper now.

HP AMD Radeon RX 460 2gb GPU VRAM Graphics Card PC Gaming for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for HP AMD Radeon RX 460 2gb GPU VRAM Graphics Card PC Gaming at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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Thanks, but got that HP. No EFI boot screen but was indeed BNIB and let me upgrade to Mojave!

 

[tsialex]

Thanks, but got that HP. No EFI boot screen but was indeed BNIB and let me upgrade to Mojave!

Just boot Windows and flash it, the firmware with macEFI for the HP GT 630 2GB card is public.

Also, since HP cooked perfect UEFI GOP support for this card into the factory firmware of this GPU already, it works with the Open Core EnableGOP EFI module that you can inject into your Mac Pro BootROM image - so, you have options.

If you are not comfortable doing any of that, when you will need a BootROM reconstruction service in the future to repair the cross-flashing to MP5,1 mess, I can inject the EnableGOP to your Mac Pro reconstructed BootROM image.

 

[andrew nz]

which amd 2600xt equivalent would be compatile with monterey and ventura to power an auxiliary monitor and boot screen?
this is not topic or information i can see in the compatinility list at the commencemnt of this thread.

 

[h9826790]

which amd 2600xt equivalent would be compatile with monterey and ventura to power an auxiliary monitor and boot screen?
this is not topic or information i can see in the compatinility list at the commencemnt of this thread.

No such card exist.

If you want Monterey / Ventura and have boot screen, please study the OpenCore thread. This is the best solution.

 

[andrew nz]

No such card exist.

If you want Monterey / Ventura and have boot screen, please study the OpenCore thread. This is the best solution.

thank you for the reply; however i have no experience with opencore beyond a single experimental install.
i have asked an open question, if someone can steer me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

To enlighten, I use a 3 monitor setup with one for boot screen support for bootselector and which is both Mac OS friendly up to 10.13 so far and windows 10.
I am in the process of transferring to a newly installed Moneterey on that 5.1 from a Yosemite 10.10.5, 2.1 older macpro.
This offers that my experience with an openore solution is light on experience and knowledge.

The idea is to use a card to give minimal but operational support to the auxiliary third monitor.

Would a GT120 do the trick?

 

[Pointy-Head]

Hi everyone, I have been following these forums for a long time and have learned so much from the experts here, so a big thank you to everyone who contributes so much here!

I have a question and I hope someone can point me in the right direction... I have a 2010 cMP 5,1 with Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 graphics running Big Sur with OC. I plan to move up to Monterey so I can squeeze some more life from this brilliant Mac, so have bought a R9 280X 3 GB card so I can keep running it without disabling SIP, etc. However, unwittingly I bought the MSI Gaming version (flashed with Mac ROM for boot screen support). I understand this card is overclocked by default and has a quoted TDP of 250W compared with 200W for the regular AMD R9 280X. So my question is how best to power it?

The Mac is mostly used for "office" work so the card won't be running heavy graphics for games or used for rendering 8k video. Its heaviest load will probably be handling multi-party Zoom calls. So it's unlikely to be pushed very hard, but I don't want to fry my motherboard.

If I power the card from the two MicroFit 6 pins connectors on the motherboard plus from one (or two?) SATA ports is that likely to be safe enough or do I need to be thinking about undertaking the PIXLAS mod? (or selling the card again and getting a regular R9 280X?). I appreciate that the card has multiple power rails so isn't going to be neatly balancing its power draw between the PCIe slot and the 6 & 8 pin connectors.

If anyone can provide any insights or recommendations they would be very welcome. Thanks!

 

[andrew nz]

Hi everyone, I have been following these forums for a long time and have learned so much from the experts here, so a big thank you to everyone who contributes so much here!

I have a question and I hope someone can point me in the right direction... I have a 2010 cMP 5,1 with Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 graphics running Big Sur with OC. I plan to move up to Monterey so I can squeeze some more life from this brilliant Mac, so have bought a R9 280X 3 GB card so I can keep running it without disabling SIP, etc. However, unwittingly I bought the MSI Gaming version (flashed with Mac ROM for boot screen support). I understand this card is overclocked by default and has a quoted TDP of 250W compared with 200W for the regular AMD R9 280X. So my question is how best to power it?

The Mac is mostly used for "office" work so the card won't be running heavy graphics for games or used for rendering 8k video. Its heaviest load will probably be handling multi-party Zoom calls. So it's unlikely to be pushed very hard, but I don't want to fry my motherboard.

If I power the card from the two MicroFit 6 pins connectors on the motherboard plus from one (or two?) SATA ports is that likely to be safe enough or do I need to be thinking about undertaking the PIXLAS mod? (or selling the card again and getting a regular R9 280X?). I appreciate that the card has multiple power rails so isn't going to be neatly balancing its power draw between the PCIe slot and the 6 & 8 pin connectors.

If anyone can provide any insights or recommendations they would be very welcome. Thanks!

hello

the 2 pinned connectors you mention are enough to power the card. pixlas unnecessary.
i use mine which is a version of the 3GB you mention with windows gaming and works 99% of the time.

 

[andrew nz]

thank you for the reply; however i have no experience with opencore beyond a single experimental install.
i have asked an open question, if someone can steer me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

To enlighten, I use a 3 monitor setup with one for boot screen support for bootselector and which is both Mac OS friendly up to 10.13 so far and windows 10.
I am in the process of transferring to a newly installed Moneterey on that 5.1 from a Yosemite 10.10.5, 2.1 older macpro.
This offers that my experience with an openore solution is light on experience and knowledge.

The idea is to use a card to give minimal but operational support to the auxiliary third monitor.

Would a GT120 do the trick?

can anyone shed some light on this conundrum any techies analysts programmers care to comment?

 

[Pointy-Head]

hello

the 2 pinned connectors you mention are enough to power the card. pixlas unnecessary.
i use mine which is a version of the 3GB you mention with windows gaming and works 99% of the time.

Many thanks for the confirmation. I have powered the card with:
6-pin micro-fit -> 6-pin PCIe
6-pin micro-fit + 1x SATA -> 8-pin PCIe

So far no smoke so hopefully all will be well.

 

[andrew nz]

I have not done exactly that.
There are the 2 pinned ports on the card itself, one is 6 pin the other 8 pin. These connect to the "motherboard" and the piece is readily available on ebay for example.

 

[andrew nz]

I have not done exactly that.
There are the 2 pinned ports on the card itself, one is 6 pin the other 8 pin. These connect to the "motherboard" and the cabled connector piece is readily available on ebay for example.

 

[amp829]

hello
I have a 5.1 flashed mac pro running mojave and I have found an

AMD RADEON PRO DUO 32GB at a very goo price​

i now own a radeon 580 8gb and looking for a better GPU for 4k video editing with FCP X .Is it possible the upgrade ? 2nd Is the Is it wort the upgrade ? Thanks

 

[mrkapqa]

according to this graph here https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-duo.c2828
you would be better off investing in a radeon vega 56 or vega 64 (needs power modification called "pixlas mod")

 

[amp829]

the actual card looks like this https://www.macvidcards.eu/products/amd-radeon-pro-duo-32-gb-gddr5
is it the same card ?

 

[mrkapqa]

it seems a dfferent card, actually two wx7100 in one, the wx7100 is professional version of rx 580, but less powerful.
i am not experienced with graphics cards, but for 4k editing on mojave, you would have to research what matters.
would tend to think that a vega 64 or especially radeon vii (maybe even radeon vega 56) is more powerful, but then this card has 32gb of ram, so could be useful for video editing.
have got a vega rx 56 for around 130-140 unflashed and it was a perfect upgrade for me over the rx 580 since can use it on mojave and also newer operating system (nearly double the performance).

 

[MarkC426]

hello
I have a 5.1 flashed mac pro running mojave and I have found an

AMD RADEON PRO DUO 32GB at a very goo price​

i now own a radeon 580 8gb and looking for a better GPU for 4k video editing with FCP X .Is it possible the upgrade ? 2nd Is the Is it wort the upgrade ? Thanks

May be worth a look through this thread....

AMD Polaris, Vega, & Navi GPU macOS Support

This thread is about compatibility of Polaris, Vega, & Navi GPUs with the Mac Pro. This information is mostly reference for Mac Pro 4,1 (2009), 5,1 (2010, 2012), and 7,1 (2019). Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) users may also find this information useful since it is possible to connect an eGPU via the...

forums.macrumors.com

You need to find out which model it is...?
You would also need additional power (6+8 pin).

 

[amp829]

May be worth a look through this thread....

AMD Polaris, Vega, & Navi GPU macOS Support

This thread is about compatibility of Polaris, Vega, & Navi GPUs with the Mac Pro. This information is mostly reference for Mac Pro 4,1 (2009), 5,1 (2010, 2012), and 7,1 (2019). Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) users may also find this information useful since it is possible to connect an eGPU via the...

forums.macrumors.com

You need to find out which model it is...?
You would also need additional power (6+8 pin).

i cannot find the exact model but it seems that a includes 2x wx7100 .
also the pins i already use to my rx580 isn't the same ?

 

[h9826790]

it seems a dfferent card, actually two wx7100 in one, the wx7100 is professional version of rx 580, but less powerful.
i am not experienced with graphics cards, but for 4k editing on mojave, you would have to research what matters.
would tend to think that a vega 64 or especially radeon vii (maybe even radeon vega 56) is more powerful, but then this card has 32gb of ram, so could be useful for video editing.
have got a vega rx 56 for around 130-140 unflashed and it was a perfect upgrade for me over the rx 580 since can use it on mojave and also newer operating system (nearly double the performance).

I don't think it can do better than Radeon VII.

The Radeon VII is 100% faster than a single WX7100. And 2x WX7100 can never scale up the performance by 100% (at least not in FCP). Even in ideal situation, it's total processing power still a bit shorter than a single Radeon VII can do.

Also, that 32GB VRAM meaning nothing in this situation, the two GPU will work in mirror mode in FCP. So, only 16GB effective VRAM, same as Radeon VII.

Acording to AMD's datasheet, the Pro Duo is only 1.57x faster than a single WX7100 in Adobe PP. Even FCP is optimised for AMD GPU, and very good at use multiple GPU (has better multi GPU performance scaling), I think it can still just match a Vega56 [assuming the Vega's 8GB VRAM is good enough for the workflow. Otherwise, that 32GB VRAM (effective 16GB) can kill the Vega].

 

[mrkapqa]

and for professional use maybe radeon vii also not supporting

10-BIT COLOR Native support for 10-bits per color channel for color-critical tasks. Driving an effective 30-bits per pixel, the Radeon™ Pro Duo is great for any workload requiring
that level of detail and color precision.

 

[MarkC426]

i cannot find the exact model but it seems that a includes 2x wx7100 .
also the pins i already use to my rx580 isn't the same ?

No, the RX580 is single 8 pin to dual 6 pin on Mac.
The specs in your link suggest 8 pin (2x6) and 6 pin.

 

[h9826790]

and for professional use maybe radeon vii also not supporting

It seems the Radeon VII belongs to the pro graphic card group indeed.

It has The Radeon Pro Software support on the Windows side. And it has 10bit colour support.

 

[BrettApple]

Dug my 2012 5,1 out of the basement closet for the first time in a year since moving houses. It's still on El Capitan! And running on dual 3.5" HDD's in RAID 0. A true 2012 specimen with it's original dual 5770's.

This guide has been immensely helpful. I found an RX 560 brand new for $99 even on Newegg (US). I figured $99 plus the dual 6-pin to 8-pin adapter and throw in a basic 256GB SSD and 2.5" mount is worth the trouble to get on to Mojave at least, if not figure out getting to Monterey which would be lovely and match my primary 2020 Intel Mac.

Thank you all! Despite the RX 560's age and low end range I'm surprised they're still as expensive as they are but I see the GPU market went pretty crazy the last few years. Seems like $99 isn't half bad for brand new.