iPad Pro Grainy display on new iPad Pro M4?

[x3sphere]

The intensity of the grain effect seems to vary a lot depending on the brightness set, at least on my unit (11" Pro). At max brightness, it's hardly visible without pixel peeping, but at lower brightness - especially around 20-30% - I can see it at normal viewing distances.

Overall, the OLED screen is a clear improvement despite this issue for me. Especially in regards to motion, all other iPads I've owned exhibited very noticeable ghosting artifacts. Definitely a bummer though, I don't expect much of a response out of Apple considering no reviews mentioned this at all...

 

[canadianpj]

I have an 11 M4 Pro and nothing is wrong with mine, but I never seem to have any of these kind of issues.

 

[Itsedstech]

My grainy screen was only because of my esr screen protector lol screens perfect

 

[cmbarclay]

Is there anyway to tell who manufactured the screen on my device?

 

[klasma]

Is there anyway to tell who manufactured the screen on my device?

No method is known as of now.

 

[makrumor]

Would be helpful if anyone saying „his screen is fine” posted a picture so we have a reference of what to chase.

 

[IT Troll]

I have an 11 M4 Pro and nothing is wrong with mine, but I never seem to have any of these kind of issues.

Can you post a photo? The Settings screen or this forum at 30% brightness or below.

 

[EugW]

I can't see it in a brightly lit store on casual inspection. However, it was too bright in the store to try to see it at low brightness settings.

 

[EugW]

13" here and mine is razor sharp.

This issue does not affect sharpness per se.

 

[Arkenangel]

Hey guys ,

iPad Pro 13“ (1tb WiFi) build 04/24
Same Grainy **** Panel 🤢.

My old 2018 12,9“ pro have a better display for me -.-

 

[IT Troll]

A fellow forum member @AppelGeenyus kindly shared images of their 11" OLED and LCD iPads taken under similar conditions with the same camera. I've cropped together a comparison image which clearly shows the grain issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels (approx 20% in these images). The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are smoother and more uniform.

I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...

 

[EugW]

A fellow forum member @AppelGeenyus kindly shared images of their 11" OLED and LCD iPads taken under similar conditions with the same camera. I've cropped together a comparison image which clearly shows the grain issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels (approx 20% in these images). The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are smoother and more uniform.

I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...

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Looks like Apple/Samsung/LG haven't been able to control the consistency of the OLED pixel brightness at low brightness levels.

I also wonder how much is related to the dual display tech.

 

[AppelGeenyus]

A fellow forum member @AppelGeenyus kindly shared images of their 11" OLED and LCD iPads taken under similar conditions with the same camera. I've cropped together a comparison image which clearly shows the grain issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels (approx 20% in these images). The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are smoother and more uniform.

I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...

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"Some pixels on my god-tier OLED display aren't 100% perfect" is definitely a First World Problem 😅

 

[AppelGeenyus]

Looks like Apple/Samsung/LG haven't been able to control the consistency of the OLED pixel brightness at low brightness levels.

I also wonder how much is related to the dual display tech.

All decent OLED's do this to reduce color banding and issues with near-black uniformity, look up close at any OLED tv from the past few years and you'll see the same thing.

 

[klasma]

I also wonder how much is related to the dual display tech.

I suspect that it’s related, because my Samsung OLED tablet doesn’t exhibit such visible dithering. For me it’s (only) an issue when viewing video at low brightness, so I’ll keep the Samsung for that use case.

 

[th1nk]

I suspect that it’s related, because my Samsung OLED tablet doesn’t exhibit such visible dithering.

but… have you tried setting it to minimal brightness and then using a magnifying glass to search for it?

people are spreading FUD in here, unless you get unlucky and receive a bad panel the display is amazing. there is certainly no issue with my 13 inch panel during regular use and believe me I am very meticulous.

I have waited for an OLED iPad since the iPhone X released, so a very long time. If this display was bad after looking forward to it for such a long time I‘d be furious. But it‘s better than I could have hoped for.

 

[EugW]

All decent OLED's do this to reduce color banding and issues with near-black uniformity, look up close at any OLED tv from the past few years and you'll see the same thing.

It's not as bad on my OLED TV. I mean it's not great, but the pictures of the iPad Pro screen look worse.

people are spreading FUD in here, unless you get unlucky and receive a bad panel the display is amazing. there is certainly no issue with my 13 inch panel during regular use and believe me I am very meticulous.

This is not FUD. This is an observable difference. Whether or not it is severe enough to notice in your unit and whether or not you care is a different discussion.

 

[MacEroni]

Hello everyone,

My 11 inch iPad Pro M4 512 GB also has this annoying grain. I noticed it straight away and can't unsee this grain. I will have to exchange it. I've attached a photo of the grain taken with my 15P.

Can those who have successfully swapped their iPad for another explain how they did it.
Did you go to the Genius Bar and say you didn't like the grain and get another one straight away? Or did you send it back and order a new one? Thx.

 

[klasma]

but… have you tried setting it to minimal brightness and then using a magnifying glass to search for it?

Yes, but the magnifying glass didn’t make a lot of difference. The thing is, at perceptually equal low brightness (20-25% for the iPad), the iPad display looks noisy with fine-grained movement in the noise, which makes for an uncalm appearance, while on the Samsung the picture looks solid and unmoving. Relative to the threshold of what my eyes can see, the Samsung seems to be below that threshold with its temporal dithering, while the iPad is distinctly above. Maybe I’ll dig up my USB microscope next weekend to get clearer evidence.

 

[NauticalDan]

Hello everyone,

My 11 inch iPad Pro M4 512 GB also has this annoying grain. I noticed it straight away and can't unsee this grain. I will have to exchange it. I've attached a photo of the grain taken with my 15P.

Can those who have successfully swapped their iPad for another explain how they did it.
Did you go to the Genius Bar and say you didn't like the grain and get another one straight away? Or did you send it back and order a new one? Thx.

Apple has a 2 week return policy the iPads came out 5 days ago. Take it back, no reason needs to be given.

 

[EugW]

I wondered about getting the Air, but the Air's screen is noticeably worse in bright lighting, and it doesn't have Face ID. Plus I don't like the older Magic Keyboard, even though some of the newer Magic Keyboard may be more wobbly.

 

[MacEroni]

Apple has a 2 week return policy the iPads came out 5 days ago. Take it back, no reason needs to be given.

Thank you for your reply and for pointing out the return period. I'm asking because someone bought the iPad for me and I don't want to annoy them by returning it and buying a new one until I have a solid display. The iPad runs under my Apple ID. Therefore I am asking for the exchange process when the display has this grain.

 

[Kahnforever]

A fellow forum member @AppelGeenyus kindly shared images of their 11" OLED and LCD iPads taken under similar conditions with the same camera. I've cropped together a comparison image which clearly shows the grain issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels (approx 20% in these images). The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are smoother and more uniform.

I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...

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Mein god!

 

[ipaddaro]

A fellow forum member @AppelGeenyus kindly shared images of their 11" OLED and LCD iPads taken under similar conditions with the same camera. I've cropped together a comparison image which clearly shows the grain issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels (approx 20% in these images). The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are smoother and more uniform.

I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...

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It’s the same on Oled iPhones and Apple watches, so it doesn’t seem an issue to me. The lower ppi makes it more visible at the same distance, that’s it

 

[Rely undo]

Still no one has provided a photo (not a screenshot) of their screen without the graininess. Let’s put the debate to rest, if someone has a “perfect” display, please post a closeup photo taken with your iphone of the iPad screen!