(Great news. I've just found I have a GPS in my iPad) -WRONG!

[nStyle]

A friend of mine will make a movie soon. Be patient. I hope after a hour I will prove my statement

The first step is accepting. We will work with you.

Say it with me,

"My iPad is a Wifi model, as opposed to the 'Wifi + 3G' model. I do not have true GPS or cellular capabilities in my Wifi iPad. If I want GPS or 3G capabilities, I must buy the 'Wifi + 3G' model."

You are not alone. Others have thought like yourself.

Accept now and relieve yourself.

There IS hope... I promise.

 

[skunk]

I can get to the dessert in an hour. That's the only way to prove it.

All that proves is that you have a hell of a big main course.

 

[gwynne]

I knew this thread would be epic from post #1. It does not dissappoint.

 

[xtend]

I knew this thread would be epic from post #1. It does not dissappoint.

+1

 

[0101001]

Guys...Guys....

I have some scars on my palm... I didn't believe it at first, but I think I'm Jesus.

Not cool at all

 

[mcdj]

guess what else...?

it already has 3G. and a hidden front facing ichat camera. plus if you hold it at arm's length while standing on one foot, it will magically bake you 1 dozen chocolate chip cookies...check your ovens people!

these features are of course dormant until OS 4.0 comes out.

oh and the silver colored housing? it's pure platinum, forged by workers in a secret bunker on the moon.

 

[ammcfc]

So cool jokes. Keep laughing Perfect attitude from all of you

 

[H00513R]

Doesn't it have to have some type of GPS if MobileMe can track it??

 

[gwynne]

To kill time while waiting for new posts in the thread, or the highly-anticipated video, I recommend the wikipedia article on GPS, or Global Positioning System:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

[coelacanth]

Disclaimer: I have no intention of making fun of the OP.

Strongly believe you are confused on this as many others said.
iPad is simulating GPS-like function by triangulating itself using nearby Wifi stations. This doesn't mean that you are actually connected/joined to a wifi spot so you will not see Wifi icon on the top bar.

Example:

Navigon on my iPhone 3GS can navigate without wifi or cell tower because it has actual GPS chip in it. Performance will decrease without cell reception because the "GPS" on it is actually aGPS assisted by cell phone tower triangulation. I believe iPad with 3G will have same chip.

This is not possible with iPad Wifi only model because there is no aGPS chip in it. It only can utilize wifi triangulation. No Wifi, no signal, and no GPS-like function.

 

[uncaduncad]

3g+Wifi says "Assisted GPS".

Nothing says either don't have GPS...

I assumed the wifi had GPS, just not assisted.

How can you hook to nearby wifi without actually hooking to nearby wifi....??



hmmm.. more searching...

this is odd....

 

[andyblila]

I knew this thread would be epic from post #1. It does not dissappoint.

I agree completely! I am replying so that it stays in my control panel! Epic!

 

[nStyle]

While we wait... I found a video on YouTube of the OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM

(OP is blonde girl). (notice nice informative man trying to help OP out but OP is not listening).

 

[Peter Harrison]

Can you turn Wifi off like on the iPhone? If so, do it and then try the map apps.

 

[designresults]

I just pre-ordered a 32 3G, does it have GPS?

 

[Aduntu]

3g+Wifi says "Assisted GPS".

Nothing says either don't have GPS...

I assumed the wifi had GPS, just not assisted.

How can you hook to nearby wifi without actually hooking to nearby wifi....??



hmmm.. more searching...

this is odd....

Just because the sticker on your car didn't say there wasn't a turbo doesn't mean there might be.

 

[skubish]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

Hey guys I just checked my iPhone 3GS and there was an iPad stuffed in there. Just saved myself $500 sweet!

 

[SchneiderMan]

Forget about it. GPS only works with a WiFi or EDGE/3G/4G network connections.

 

[LadyHoneyBabe]

There's WiFi and a Digital Compass installed, but I don't see where GPS is installed on the WiFi version. Plus, is Apple generous enough to give away GPS chips?

 

[jtara]

How can you hook to nearby wifi without actually hooking to nearby wifi....??

You can't. But you don't need to.

Go into Setting, WiFi. Tap on your current connection, you will see "choose a network" and a list of router names. (This is on iPhone. I don't have an iPad yet, so this may be somewhat different.)

My, my, how the heck did it do that?! A list of all of your neighbor's WiFi signals, even though you aren't connected to them. Sheer magic!

Actually, not sheer magic. Every WiFi router sends out "beacon" signals constantly, announcing their name and a unique ID number. (The beacons can be turned off, BTW, for enhanced security, but most people don't do that.)

Skyhook maintains a database of WiFi router locations. They get the locations from people registering their own routers through their web site and (mostly) by them driving down streets collecting the information. Location Services looks for beacon broadcasts, gets the ID of each router it sees, and looks them up in the Skyhook database.

They triangulate your location based on nearby routers.

 

[jtara]

Forget about it. GPS only works with a WiFi or EDGE/3G/4G network connections.

Actually, that's not true. (Though off-topic.) GPS on iPhone/iPad can work standalone. If you have a cell connection (WiFi is irrelevant, and won't help) you will get an initial fix more quickly.

Some aGPS implementations (such as on some older "feature phones") do REQUIRE a cell signal. The implementation on iPhone/iPad doesn't have that requirement. It's a full GPS receiver that has enhanced start-up performance if a cell signal is available.

 

[Bob Chadwick]

You can't. But you don't need to.

Go into Setting, WiFi. Tap on your current connection, you will see "choose a network" and a list of router names. (This is on iPhone. I don't have an iPad yet, so this may be somewhat different.)

My, my, how the heck did it do that?! A list of all of your neighbor's WiFi signals, even though you aren't connected to them. Sheer magic!

Actually, not sheer magic. Every WiFi router sends out "beacon" signals constantly, announcing their name and a unique ID number. (The beacons can be turned off, BTW, for enhanced security, but most people don't do that.)

Skyhook maintains a database of WiFi router locations. They get the locations from people registering their own routers through their web site and (mostly) by them driving down streets collecting the information. Location Services looks for beacon broadcasts, gets the ID of each router it sees, and looks them up in the Skyhook database.

They triangulate your location based on nearby routers.

Don't you have to connect with at least one of them? I'm sitting in an office building with 7 or 8 secured routers all around me. If I open the maps app and try to get a current location, it clocks for some time, it gives me the list of routers and then tells me that it is unable to get a location (presumably because I was unable to connect to any of them).

 

[SchneiderMan]

Actually, that's not true. (Though off-topic.) GPS on iPhone/iPad can work standalone. If you have a cell connection (WiFi is irrelevant, and won't help) you will get an initial fix more quickly.

Some aGPS implementations (such as on some older "feature phones") do REQUIRE a cell signal. The implementation on iPhone/iPad doesn't have that requirement. It's a full GPS receiver that has enhanced start-up performance if a cell signal is available.

I tried it before and it does not work so why all the smart talk?

 

[paulbart]

A friend of mine will make a movie soon. Be patient. I hope after a hour I will prove my statement

Sadly, his friend followed the "GPS" instructions, and drove off a cliff.

R.I.P.

 

[ImperialX]

There's WiFi and a Digital Compass installed, but I don't see where GPS is installed on the WiFi version. Plus, is Apple generous enough to give away GPS chips?

They aren't. There is no GPS chip in there. That's final.