Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Mar 20, 2013
1,241
5
Samsungs 14nm at full speed 2.1ghz should break 2000 single core performance
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Samsungs 14nm at full speed 2.1ghz should break 2000 single core performance

More ghz doesn't necessarily translate into higher scores....

I haven't looked closely at that benchmark, but those scores are an aggregate of 3 different measurements. If the GS6 suffers in the memory management section for example (which is traditionally the case for Samsung devices), adding more GHz won't affect the overall score that drastically.
 
Last edited:

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Mar 20, 2013
1,241
5
More ghz doesn't necessarily translate into higher scores....

I haven't looked closely at that benchmark, but those scores are an aggregate of 4 different measurements. If the GS6 suffers in the memory management section (which is traditionally the case for Samsung devices), adding more GHz won't affect the overall score that drastically.

Please explain how clocking the main cores 600mhz faster won't drastically affect the score? The a57 cores are power houses and clocking them 600mhz faster will make a huge impact on performance and scores.

This soc is also using ddr4 with the highest memory bandwidth available
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Please explain how clocking the main cores 600mhz faster won't drastically affect the score? The a57 cores are power houses and clocking them 600mhz faster will make a huge impact on performance and scores.

This soc is also using ddr4 with the highest memory bandwidth available

Because the score is an aggregate of more than just processor speed....

Hence why a 2.5 GHz Snapdragon 801 doesn't out benchmark a 1.5 GHz A8X.

Memory performance is one of the scores that make up that geekbench score (and from a quick view, its generally the one that brings the overall score down while the integer and floating point scores are higher than the overall benchmark).

Your picture doesn't show the individual tests and scores of those three areas. I'd be interested in seeing them.

Look, before you get all defensive I'm simply pointing out facts. Not trying to rain on your parade or anything. Obviously the bench is impressive.

For more info.....http://support.primatelabs.com/kb/geekbench/geekbench-3-benchmarks
 
Last edited:

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Mar 20, 2013
1,241
5
I haven't seen any 810 scores yet and from what I read all phones at ces that were benched were being throttled and we're no where near these benchmarks

The leaked HTC with the 810 scored horribly with a 350 multi score and 1200 single and was no where near 2.5ghz
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I haven't seen any 810 scores yet and from what I read all phones at ces that were benched were being throttled and we're no where near these benchmarks

I might've meant the 801 - my bad.

Whatever the case, point is - higher clock doesn't necessarily mean higher benchmark.

And with regards to the clock speed being the only difference, while I'm sure there will be a boost, it's not the only determining factor.
 

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Mar 20, 2013
1,241
5
I might've meant the 801 - my bad.

Whatever the case, point is - higher clock doesn't necessarily mean higher benchmark.

And with regards to the clock speed being the only difference, while I'm sure there will be a boost, it's not the only determining factor.

The 801 is based off of a hybrid a9 and a15 arm core and from memory has 12-13 step pipeline.

The 805 is the same core clocked higher.the new exynos is a whole new architecture using a57 cores and clock for clock are 57% faster then arm a15 cores And going by this bench well over 100% faster clock for clock then the 801 and 805 cores
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
The 801 is based off of a hybrid a9 and a15 arm core and from memory has 12-13 step pipeline.

The 805 is the same core clocked higher.the new exynos is a whole new architecture using a57 cores and clock for clock are 57% faster then arm a15 cores And going by this bench well over 100% faster clock for clock then the 801 and 805 cores

You are completely missing my point.....

Anyways, cool scores.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
Specs don't matter that much. It's the software where it's all at, and Samsung (plus others like LG) must improve its software.
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
6,753
4,927

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Qualcomm chips are less in demand with Apple sales being through the roof

Samsung is a big customer and they are pulling their flagship SOC in house. Partly I'm sure for a competitive advantage as they look to shake things up in 2015.

Their shares are down for a good reason.

It's about time the US got the same version as the rest of the world....

----------

If comparing same platform to same platform I agree beyond that I don't.

I think what most don't agree with is attributing the benchmark to some real-world performance standard which is dependent upon a variety of things.

Even cross-platform, if you take the benchmark for what it is (a measurement of raw power of the SoC), it's a good comparison.

Try not to read more into it than there is. The benchmark 5400 means nothing unless you have something to compare it to.
 

lowendlinux

macrumors 603
Sep 24, 2014
5,460
6,788
Germany
It's about time the US got the same version as the rest of the world....

----------



I think what most don't agree with is attributing the benchmark to some real-world performance standard which is dependent upon a variety of things.

Even cross-platform, if you take the benchmark for what it is (a measurement of raw power of the SoC), it's a good comparison.

Try not to read more into it than there is. The benchmark 5400 means nothing unless you have something to compare it to.

I got a 7000 point improvement in my GB (~18,000 to ~25,000) by installing OS X on my computer. Is OS X worth 7000 points improvement over Linux with same setup? Did my processors get magically faster? I think the likely answer is GB is not written as well for Linux as it it for OS X. Comparing GB scores on the same platform I'll go for comparing Android to iOS not so much.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I got a 7000 point improvement in my GB (~18,000 to ~25,000) by installing OS X on my computer. Is OS X worth 7000 points improvement over Linux with same setup? Did my processors get magically faster? I think the likely answer is GB is not written as well for Linux as it it for OS X. Comparing GB scores on the same platform I'll go for comparing Android to iOS not so much.

I wonder if simply taking multiple readings and compiling an average would be a better overall statistic?

At any rate, I don't work for Primate Labs, so I really don't care who likes GB and who doesn't. I've always found it does what its supposed to do.
 

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Mar 20, 2013
1,241
5
I got a 7000 point improvement in my GB (~18,000 to ~25,000) by installing OS X on my computer. Is OS X worth 7000 points improvement over Linux with same setup? Did my processors get magically faster? I think the likely answer is GB is not written as well for Linux as it it for OS X. Comparing GB scores on the same platform I'll go for comparing Android to iOS not so much.

none of us are comparing to ios.this soc on android and on the gs6 doubled the numbers coming from the gs5.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,079
19,077
US
Does seem to be some correlation between the two.

Probably it is going to look like this so. I just hoped they would have gone one more step with the new s6 design wise over the alpha & note 4.

The M9 renders / leak look more premium.
Agreed on the M9 leaks....that will be my next phone.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
Looks exactly like the S5 except for the flash in the back. Even the back cover looks the same.

M9 looks excellent, but its price will be 700€ or 750€, like when the M8 went on sale. Too expensive IMO. I will wait a few months for price to go down and also to see the G4 and OnePlus Two.
 

Kariya

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2010
1,820
10
Problem is most apps are still heavily single-core reliant. Some apps go dual and a very minute number use 4 or 8 or whatever the kids are into these days.
 

Hastings101

macrumors 68020
Jun 22, 2010
2,355
1,482
K
Problem is most apps are still heavily single-core reliant. Some apps go dual and a very minute number use 4 or 8 or whatever the kids are into these days.

We're into 16 cores now, get with the times old man.
 

hot spare

macrumors 6502
Aug 22, 2011
340
66
Invitation for 1st March:

Original-invitation.jpg


Following image is a possible render based on above invitation.

Invitation-with-image-of-phone-added.jpg
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.