Thanks I have been working my way in through the posts. I am starting to hate the Mac a bit more with everything I find out about it. Is kind of disappointing that a I can run windows 7 and 8 on the mac book air without having to worry about yotube freezing and what not. Where Mac os x 1.7.5 cant even keep up with running 3 programs at the same time. It is a Dual Core 1.6 with 2gb ram. I know buy a new one, but that should really not be the answer, not everybody has the 1300$ to buy a i5 or i7 just to watch youtube and use word at the same time. The XP i have seems to do that with no issues.
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[Guide] Installing 10.9 Mavericks on older Macs. -HackerWayne
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Thanks I have been working my way in through the posts. I am starting to hate the Mac a bit more with everything I find out about it. Is kind of disappointing that a I can run windows 7 and 8 on the mac book air without having to worry about yotube freezing and what not. Where Mac os x 1.7.5 cant even keep up with running 3 programs at the same time. It is a Dual Core 1.6 with 2gb ram. I know buy a new one, but that should really not be the answer, not everybody has the 1300$ to buy a i5 or i7 just to watch youtube and use word at the same time. The XP i have seems to do that with no issues.
I understand your frustrations (I've had my own problems with the forced obsolescence of Macs), but really, XP will do stuff with no issues because comparably it's a lighter-resource system. XP was built to run on Pentium 4's with 256MB of RAM, so your dual-core with 2GB of ram WILL handle anything XP can dish out.
The greater lunacy lies in the fact that you can install Windows 8.1 on your MacBook Air with full unquestionable driver support, an OS upgrade that literally came out this year. Yet Apple has deemed your Air unfit for new versions of OS X. THAT is the insanity behind their decisions, and the reason why we're all here
Thanks a lot, I was able to re-try the install today. I followed every instruction, all the way to re-boot while pressing the option Key. I saw a screen with the bootable drives, including the USB OS "X Base System". However, after I clicked enter on the USB drive, the Mac just went back to Lion.
I guess I did something wrong while I was prepping the USB drive.
Anyone has an idea? Thanks in advance.
Thank you so much for this tip. The app-script is amazing, I was able to take it all the way to the end, the USB key. HOWEVER, when I tried to install Mavericks from the USB key to my 1,1 macpro, I got the following message: "could not find installation info for this machine, Contact applecare"
Of course, I have no intention to contact applecare. Perhaps you or someone knows how I can get past this dreadful message?
Thanks in advance.
Installing Mavericks on 2006 iMac (Early 2006 upgraded CPU and firmware)
Well folks, I tried it and I am back to Mountain Lion.
I have a Early 2006 iMac, CPU upgraded to a Core 2 Duo, firmware updated to iMac 5,1 with 3 GB of RAM.
I used the SFOTT method and it worked. It installed but I could not get the sound to work, and there was no graphics acceleration. (No KEXTS for ATI Radeon X1600)
So if you have an iMac, don't install Mavericks quite yet until the Mavericks Post Factor is out. I know there were a lot of people asking this on the thread, so now you know.
On another note, I was able to use Time Machine Backup to restore my current setup. I was not able to restore from a Time Machine backup from the boot installer, I had to boot the machine with a fresh install and then use Migration Assistant when Mountain Lion booted for the first time. It took 4 hours (lots of data) and I had to authorize my machine in iTunes so that some of my really old purchases would work. It even reopened all the apps that were open during the last Time Machine backup. You have to hand it to Apple for the level of detail they put into the OS and not just the hardware.
I must say though that Mountain Lion runs really well on my iMac and is quite stable and fast. Its a lot more stable than Lion, thats for sure. I actually find it runs faster and smoother than it did with Lion.
Well folks, I tried it and I am back to Mountain Lion.
I have a Early 2006 iMac, CPU upgraded to a Core 2 Duo, firmware updated to iMac 5,1 with 3 GB of RAM.
I used the SFOTT method and it worked. It installed but I could not get the sound to work, and there was no graphics acceleration. (No KEXTS for ATI Radeon X1600)
So if you have an iMac, don't install Mavericks quite yet until the Mavericks Post Factor is out. I know there were a lot of people asking this on the thread, so now you know.
On another note, I was able to use Time Machine Backup to restore my current setup. I was not able to restore from a Time Machine backup from the boot installer, I had to boot the machine with a fresh install and then use Migration Assistant when Mountain Lion booted for the first time. It took 4 hours (lots of data) and I had to authorize my machine in iTunes so that some of my really old purchases would work. It even reopened all the apps that were open during the last Time Machine backup. You have to hand it to Apple for the level of detail they put into the OS and not just the hardware.
I must say though that Mountain Lion runs really well on my iMac and is quite stable and fast. Its a lot more stable than Lion, thats for sure. I actually find it runs faster and smoother than it did with Lion.
Thank you so much man for the tip, finally, IT WORKS, I had to restart and boot from the key and do the install. I now have Lion on one drive and Mave on another drive and I can boot from each one as desired. It feels good to show apple j-unkies who is the boss, you guys are the BOSS. If you can do it, apple can do it, but the greedy rotten apples dismissed us the Mac Pro1,1 generation because they want more of our money and buy more of their soon to be obsolete scrap. Did I mention their new Macpro looks like a butt plug?
I encountered one difficulty while going over SFOTT script. At some point, I got a message error about the sudoers file. I googled the issue, the remedy that got me past that error was "repair disk permissions". I opened disk utility and that took care of the error glitch.
Another issue encountered: booting and installing from USB flash drives did not work for me. When I press option key, I don't see the USB key. So what worked: I created a key on an external hard drive. Installation worked flawlessly afterwards.
No sound or graphic card issues so far. (I have ATI radeonHD 5770).
ONCE again, all thee folks who contributed to the making of this go around: thank you so much from the bottom of my heart and happy new year. Cheers!
Congratulations!
(I have only a MacBook Pro, so that I couldn't help you with the "Installation Info" issue.)
Make sure that the USB-Key has a GUID-Partition and is formatted with the "Mac OS Extended" filesystem.
Installing on my MacBook Pro 2.2 (late 2006)
First of all - sorry for creating a duplicate post, I made a separate thread and then realised all the activities are here:
HI Members
I am totally a newbie to the forum although I own a MacBook pro from 2007. I am not an expert with Mac. I was totally disappointed by the fact that Apple ditched my machine for updates beyond Snow Leopard. (Neither Virgin Mega Stores did a fair job of selling me a latest machine, in the country where I live in, as they sold me a 2006 model MacBook Pro 2.2 in early 2007 while the MacBook Pro 3.X was already out). As a fresher for Mac environment I purchased this new Mac only to realise later my other cousin who chose a MacBook pro as well a couple of months later got the new machine which is currently running Mavericks and I can't. I had totally stopped using the Mac until I saw signs of hope from people successfully installing the new OSX on older Macs in a thread by Oemden (SFOTT) etc.,
But as mentioned earlier I am not an expert, so can somebody point me to the right place where there is a step by step for doing this. I am not new for rooting devices, installations etc., in other platforms so I think I can fairly perform this task if one is available.
So please kindly help me to achieve this as well on my MacBook pro without much technical pseudonyms.
To begin with:
Is this link https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...&postcount=159 for macpro holds good for my MacBook pro as well, can I do the same SFOTT method to create the patch?
If so please tell me the sequence or confirm whether the below sequence from my understanding is right.
1. Download the OSX Mavericks installation from the App store
2. Create the SFOTT using the guide by OEMDEN
...and from here I am lost.
Do I need to run the SFOTT first before installing the Mavericks or install Mavericks and do the patch (is what makes sense)
Other doubts:
Please help, this is my last hope with this machine for me.
thanks
Sany
First of all - sorry for creating a duplicate post, I made a separate thread and then realised all the activities are here:
HI Members
I am totally a newbie to the forum although I own a MacBook pro from 2007. I am not an expert with Mac. I was totally disappointed by the fact that Apple ditched my machine for updates beyond Snow Leopard. (Neither Virgin Mega Stores did a fair job of selling me a latest machine, in the country where I live in, as they sold me a 2006 model MacBook Pro 2.2 in early 2007 while the MacBook Pro 3.X was already out). As a fresher for Mac environment I purchased this new Mac only to realise later my other cousin who chose a MacBook pro as well a couple of months later got the new machine which is currently running Mavericks and I can't. I had totally stopped using the Mac until I saw signs of hope from people successfully installing the new OSX on older Macs in a thread by Oemden (SFOTT) etc.,
But as mentioned earlier I am not an expert, so can somebody point me to the right place where there is a step by step for doing this. I am not new for rooting devices, installations etc., in other platforms so I think I can fairly perform this task if one is available.
So please kindly help me to achieve this as well on my MacBook pro without much technical pseudonyms.
To begin with:
Is this link https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...&postcount=159 for macpro holds good for my MacBook pro as well, can I do the same SFOTT method to create the patch?
If so please tell me the sequence or confirm whether the below sequence from my understanding is right.
1. Download the OSX Mavericks installation from the App store
2. Create the SFOTT using the guide by OEMDEN
...and from here I am lost.
Do I need to run the SFOTT first before installing the Mavericks or install Mavericks and do the patch (is what makes sense)
Other doubts:
Please help, this is my last hope with this machine for me.
thanks
Sany
I'm only a User and not involved in the MacPostFactor-Programming, but if you want to help: we need for instance a solution to get older Graphics Adapters like ATI X1600 running (64bit drivers) .....
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First: Mavericks runs basically too on a MacBook Pro 2,2 (late 2006, ATI X1600), but without graphics acceleration (and maybe some other small restrictions).
Since the MBP 2,2 is unsupported, you cannot download Mavericks directly with it from the Mac App Store. A easy solution would be to use a supported Mac from a friend for downloading Mavericks.
The appropriate steps for the Installation are described in the Install Guide in Post #914. Use either the Guide.txt in the linked "Mac-Pro-Xserve.7z" or use the linked App-Script "SFOTT".
You need to create a Install Medium first, it's quite easy with the "SFOTT" App-Script. And don't forget to Backup all your data first.
To help you step-by-step, I would recommend for the moment two steps: download Mavericks from the Mac App Store (5.29 GB) and create a Install Medium with the "SFOTT" App-Script. When those steps are done, give a feedback if it was successful and then we can go further.
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I noticed something called 'download enabler', will this not help in downloading?
I gave SFOTT a shot last night, but my question is - do I need to leave the OSX Mavericks already installed in the machine before I run it or do I just need to leave the OSX Mavericks downloaded from the app store in the 'applications' folder?
thanks
S
Hi atvusr
When you say graphic acceleration will not be there - will it not be useable for photo editing?
One more advice,
If that is the reality, then what is the other fully working OS version that I can adopt after Snow Leopard (which I have currently installed). I atleast need a Lion to enable me to run the latest Photoshop etc., If there is something available, I can adopt that for now until a fully compatible solution for Mavericks crops up.
thanks
S
When you say graphic acceleration will not be there - will it not be useable for photo editing?
One more advice,
If that is the reality, then what is the other fully working OS version that I can adopt after Snow Leopard (which I have currently installed). I atleast need a Lion to enable me to run the latest Photoshop etc., If there is something available, I can adopt that for now until a fully compatible solution for Mavericks crops up.
thanks
S
The 'Download Enabler' is another possibility to download Mavericks on a unsupported Mac. It's a trick, it gives the Mac (temporary) a suitable Machine-ID to make the Mac App Store believing this Mac is supported. But it's easier to use a supported Mac from a friend for downloading Mavericks if you have this opportunity.
Leave the already installed Mavericks as it is. The questions is, if there is the Mavericks Installer ("Install OS X Mavericks.app", 5.29 GB) still in the Applications folder. If not, download it again from the Mac App Store.
I haven't unfortunately tested Photo Editing on the MBP2,2 under Mavericks, so I cannot say if the unaccelerated graphics is sufficient for that.
OS X 10.7 (Lion) still supports the MBP 2,2 (see http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4949). But Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard might be the better solution if you have still older Applications with PowerPC code which requires the Rosetta emulation (Rosetta doesn't run on Lion or newer).
You can try another solution: run Snow Leopard as basic OS and let Mavericks run in a Virtual Machine with Parallels Desktop 9. There is a Guide in the Parallels Knowledgebase, see Article-ID: 118806.
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Hi, No actually I don't have Mavericks installed in my machine neither do I have a installation. My MacBook Pro runs on Snow Leopard.
Therefore from what you suggest, I must download the "Install OS X Mavericks.app" and leave it in the applications folder, then run the SFOTT. And this will then create a hacked Mavericks which I then plug it in the usb drive and boot the machine for the final installation.
Is this right, please confirm!
Will the machine be useable without graphic acceleration, in that case I will better not do this and still have the option open for someone wanting to purchase from me a working machine.
thanks
S
Without proper graphics acceleration many users report that the OS alone is unusable. The problem lies with the fact that Mavericks heavily uses OpenCL to create UI elements and effects. Without graphics acceleration, those elements are taxed to the CPU which will slow the whole machine down greatly.
Your best bet currently is to use MLPF (MountainLionPostFactor) to install a working 32bit version of 10.8.4. I believe in the MLPF thread for 10.8 there is a method to upgrade to 10.8.5. Until HackerWayne releases MPF (MacPostFactor) I do not recommend trying to install Mavericks if you have an older Mac with a GPU that lacks 64bit drivers.
You had mentioned in your first post that you have a Cousin which has a MacBook Pro running Mavericks. If you have access to this MacBook Pro, use it for downloading Mavericks again from the Mac App Store.
Copy the Mavericks Installer ('Install OS X Mavericks.app', 5.29 GB) onto a USB-Drive. Plug this Drive on your MBP2,2 (important because of the correct Board-ID & Model-ID).
Run the "SFOTT" App-Script on your MBP2,2 to create a new Install Medium on a another USB-Drive (Target). Direct "SFOTT" to the 'Install OS X Mavericks.app' folder on the USB-Drive (Source).
When "SFOTT" has created the new Install Medium, you can install Mavericks with it onto your internal Drive. You can also install Mavericks onto an external Drive and boot from this Drive, but Mavericks will running quite slowly because of the USB 2.0 data rate of max. 35 MB/s.
Test Mavericks after the Installation if its fast enough for you, otherwise restore/clean install Snow Leopard, Lion or try the above mentioned MountainLionPostFactor.
As already mentioned, make Backups first of all.
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You won't have any issues with graphics for ML. MLPF includes all the 32bit kexts that you will need.