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gusbemac

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If you have Lion and your Mac can run it sure they must work. What do you need VMware for? What we are doing here is installing an hacked Mountain Lion into 64 bits capable unsupported Macs.

Because I love Mountain Lion. I need VMware for using iWork, iLife, iBook, and Pixelmator at Lion, so I spend more time in hacked ML than in Lion. I have Lion and ML on my same Macbook. When I want to play the games OpenGL-based, I go to Lion. When I want to see the videos and the cam, I'll use Ubuntu or Lion on VMWare at hacked ML or I share my Mac mini's sharing screen on my hacked ML at my MBW. (I don't have a monitor, so my grandma's monitor uses the VGA entrance.)
 

H2SO4

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What are you booting from USB, the installation or ML itself? On supported systems it should work but in our case I think it's better to use a second internal partition. That's what I did at least and I think that's written in the guide as well.

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I had no problem with 10.8.1 nor now with 10.8.2 (it's legal.). Actually 10.8.2 installs straight from the pkg file. No problems with the supported system plist file this time

So does that mean you applied 10.8.1 straight to your hacked ML without modding ?
 

Michelasso

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Feb 20, 2012
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So does that mean you applied 10.8.1 straight to your hacked ML without modding ?

Yes, but you need to have Pacifist. Just open the package with Pacifist in demo mode and run it from there. It is only few MB anyway, it doesn't include kexts. Well, not AppleHDA at least. 10.8.2 does. But it does check for the supported systems (hence the need of Pacifist. It bypasses it and installs each piece one by one).
 

H2SO4

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Yes, but you need to have Pacifist. Just open the package with Pacifist in demo mode and run it from there. It is only few MB anyway, it doesn't include kexts. Well, not AppleHDA at least. 10.8.2 does. But it does check for the supported systems (hence the need of Pacifist. It bypasses it and installs each piece one by one).

Wow, cool. So open with Pacifist and then just click as per below?
 

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Michelasso

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Wow, cool. So open with Pacifist and then just click as per below?

Yes, that's how I did it. That should work for any update. We are running ML into a Mac, not in a PC with Chameleon and tricks like that. The only thing is that we may need to reapply the kexts. Just the common one like AppleHDA since the GMA kexts, not being supported, will never be present.

Does mu answer make sense or not?

Not really. Sorry. :) If I understood you correctly you do not need to hack ML to run it on VMWare. Just install ML in a VMware virtual machine as it is. VMware has its own kexts/tricks to run it. here we are talking about running ML natively on the unsupported Macs hardware.

Anyway, talking about VMware. I am running just now a Windows XP virtual machine on VMWare 5 from Mountain Lion. My only issue is the lack of RAM. What the heck is the need for QE/CI on a GMA 950?? Even the HTML5 HD videos play better than in bleeding Lion!
 

sega dude

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Jul 25, 2012
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It won't let my buy Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store. It just says this:


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Is there a way to force the download? Looks like Apple has put a stop to people who want to upgrade unsupported Macs like us. I have a MacBook4,1 and it's an Early 2008.
 

gusbemac

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Yes, that's how I did it. That should work for any update. We are running ML into a Mac, not in a PC with Chameleon and tricks like that. The only thing is that we may need to reapply the kexts. Just the common one like AppleHDA since the GMA kexts, not being supported, will never be present.



Not really. Sorry. :) If I understood you correctly you do not need to hack ML to run it on VMWare. Just install ML in a VMware virtual machine as it is. VMware has its own kexts/tricks to run it. here we are talking about running ML natively on the unsupported Macs hardware.

Anyway, talking about VMware. I am running just now a Windows XP virtual machine on VMWare 5 from Mountain Lion. My only issue is the lack of RAM. What the heck is the need for QE/CI on a GMA 950?? Even the HTML5 HD videos play better than in bleeding Lion!

In Lion, I have installed ML on VMWare and it worked very well. It includes Ink at Settings. But I have a problem: ML's Unity mode from VMWare is disabled. Because I enable the unity mode, I'll add Reminders, Messages, Safari ML and Notes to Lion's dock. But when they warm me with the alerts, VMWare advice via Growl or not?
 

themav

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It won't let my buy Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store. It just says this:
[url=http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4673/tbuyml.png]Image[/URL]

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Is there a way to force the download? Looks like Apple has put a stop to people who want to upgrade unsupported Macs like us. I have a MacBook4,1 and it's an Early 2008.
It's Fairly simple:
Install Lion into VMWare or Paralles. Buy and download using the vm. then using shared folders or something like that, transfer to your MacBook.
Enjoy!;)
 

H2SO4

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Yes, that's how I did it. That should work for any update. We are running ML into a Mac, not in a PC with Chameleon and tricks like that. The only thing is that we may need to reapply the kexts. Just the common one like AppleHDA since the GMA kexts, not being supported, will never be present.

Nice one. That HDA Kext I don't ever remember installing. My sound worked without it. I'll clone and then update.

Cheers.
 

gusbemac

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I tried to download Lion 10.7 from Mac App Store in Lion and in hacked ML for installing it on VMWare, but Apple said I couldn't download because it was newer version.

I have only DVD of Leopard, Snow Leopard and Lion. How to install Snow or Lion's DVD on VMWare? VMWare doesn't accept or recognise the DVD.
 

H2SO4

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Excellent guide thank you. Have Mountain Lion working perfectly on a 2008 XServe2,1. The only major issue i had was the ATI X1300 graphics card on it. Even without the drivers, the machine performed fine with obvious exceptions like slow Launchpad, but Remote Desktop was beyond sluggish. Copied across the X1300 drivers from Lion, and all is fine :) Though i did have to remove the AMDSupport.kext from Mountain Lion as it was conflicting with the Lion ATISupport.kext that i'd put in. If anyone has any difficulties when copying drivers across, do look at Console.app, it often tells you what's causing driver problems.

Remote Desktop is still a bit slow, but useable. If that's all i have to put up with to make Mountain Lion Server work and keep a £3000 server running for another 2 years, then i'm happy!
Does that mean Server installed on top of the hack without mods or problems?
 

tangles

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Jul 1, 2008
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Happy Xserve

2006 Xserve (1,1)
8GB RAM (2 x 4GB Sticks, will KP if any additional sized sticks installed)
X1300 GPU

Mac OS X 10.8.1 (via Pacifist)

Thanx for coming.

HappyXserve.png
 

Mr-Stabby

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Does that mean Server installed on top of the hack without mods or problems?

Originally it wouldn't even boot, i just got the no entry symbol. I put the hack in the platformsupport.plist to add the XServe2,1 as a supported machine. It booted, but the actual installer still refused to believe it was a supported model. So i cloned an existing installation of ML onto the XServes hard drive, and added the XServe2,1 model and the board number into the platformsupport.plist preference file in /System/Library/CoreServices on the newly copied installation. The machine booted perfectly. The only other thing i had to do is copy over the X1300 graphics drivers from a Lion installation and the machine is working perfectly. The only thing as i said is Remote Desktop is a bit sluggish, there may be something in the graphics drivers that isn't functioning correctly, but other than that no problems at all. In fact i'm surprised at just how well it runs. Just don't expect to be using any high graphics capable apps on it! Which most people wouldn't. In fact most people who use XServes don't even plug monitors into them!
 

Benuser7

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Aug 26, 2012
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ML Stable on MacBook 4,1 early 2008

Yes, please try and report back results.. Please note that 2008 Macbook has a different identifier as well as a different graphics card - It uses the X3100 and has the identifier MacBook3,1 this guide might not work for you. Ill try it with my 2008 MacBook later and write a different guide for it ;), anyway, how to get this thread stickied? =)

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I agree with you, if apple change the way they check the requirements in the GM version when we're out of luck. :( Thats the end for my Mac Pro 2006. As for Mac Pro, no kext is required if you have upgraded your original graphics card to atleast GT210 and above (7300GT isnt supported) I only tested this on my Mid 2007 MacBook2,1 i will try with the MacBook3,1 that uses the X3100 later.

I have been reading some of the thread and wanted to know if somebody had managed to get ML running with everything working on a MacBook 4,1 early 2008

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It won't let my buy Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store. It just says this:
[url=http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4673/tbuyml.png]Image[/URL]

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Is there a way to force the download? Looks like Apple has put a stop to people who want to upgrade unsupported Macs like us. I have a MacBook4,1 and it's an Early 2008.

as hackerwayne said on a previous post, you might be able to get it from "the bay full of pirates" i hope you know what i mean

feel free to delete this post if it violates the forums T&C
 

felixsmacintosh

macrumors newbie
Aug 27, 2012
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ML on my mb early 2008

hey guys,
I just installed ML on my MB (installation was pretty easy, thx hackerwayne :D), but.... I still have a question..... Can some1 explain exactly how I can upgrade to 10.8.1 or 10.8.2 beta?? I'm afraid of having problems after the installation.....
greetingz, felix

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meanwhile, i found (sort of xD) a solution for the lid / sleep problem on the MacBooks..... you can use a little tool called "NoSleep" witch prevents crashing the mac, but keeps the display and system on..... (I think it's ok for the time until we find a better solution.... ;) )

link to the app: NoSleep

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my mac (notice the "zz"-icon in the top right corner, that's nosleep....):

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DaKKs

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Aug 15, 2012
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Stupid question, but does the DP have some drawback compared to the retail version? Cause, if the GMA950 driver issue can be solved then theoretically ML can also boot on the Classic Macbook (2006 MB1.1), can't it? Considering it has a 32 bit kernel.

Or am i talking out of my arse on this one? Which may very well be since i haven't actually owned a "modern" intel mac until last Saturday.
 

felixsmacintosh

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Aug 27, 2012
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Stupid question, but does the DP have some drawback compared to the retail version? Cause, if the GMA950 driver issue can be solved then theoretically ML can also boot on the Classic Macbook (2006 MB1.1), can't it? Considering it has a 32 bit kernel.

Or am i talking out of my arse on this one? Which may very well be since i haven't actually owned a "modern" intel mac until last Saturday.

dude..... apple already kicked the core duo only-macbook in lion...... (I had one, too) so....why should it work now, in ML???

and, I think my question isn't *that* stupid, I just don't wanna brick my ML and I'm pretty sure there are more people in here who don't know exactly how it works...... -.-

now...... who's question is stupider?????
 
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DaKKs

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dude..... apple already kicked the core duo only-macbook in lion...... (I had one, too) so....why should it work now, in ML???

and, I think my question isn't *that* stupid, I just don't wanna brick my ML and I'm pretty sure there are more people in here who don't know exactly how it works...... -.-

now...... who's question is stupider?????

Oh, please. Kicked it? That "bug" is stupidly easy to bypass. You don't even have to make an effort. There's even a pre-modded distro made by iAtkos for lazy people.

I know because were running Lion on every 2006 Macbook (same as mine w/o SSD) we have due to "compatibility issues" with our newer Macs. Much to my suffering and dismay...
 

felixsmacintosh

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Aug 27, 2012
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....really?? ok sry I thought iAktos is for PCs (hackintosh, had one and heard of iAktos before my macs)....but afaik apple removed the 32-bit kernel completely in ML.....in activity monitor, every system process and program is "Intel 64-bit", no single one is just "Intel".....I'm afraid that's why we / wayne had the problems with the 32-bit kexts, sleep mode and other stuff, too....

greetingz, felix

pic of activity monitor:

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DaKKs

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Aug 15, 2012
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....really?? ok sry I thought iAktos is for PCs (hackintosh, had one and heard of iAktos before my macs)....but afaik apple removed the 32-bit kernel completely in ML.....in activity monitor, every system process and program is "Intel 64-bit", no single one is just "Intel".....I'm afraid that's why we / wayne had the problems with the 32-bit kexts, sleep mode and other stuff, too....

greetingz, felix

No worries, mate. iAtkos made five distros, of which four were for PC's. Its easy to get it wrong if you're not a die-hard hackintosher.

But yeah, Retail ML only has a 64bit kernel. Which is why I intended to use DP1, which still has a 32bit kernel.

EDIT: I just realized I'm talking out of my arse. The Macbooks are running Lion Developer Preview, not retail. Its still Lion i suppose, just a bit less Lion. A cub perhaps?
 
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felixsmacintosh

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Aug 27, 2012
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well I was pretty sure that there is no hack for the retail, but i had no time to google it... I still remember Leopard..... Apple kicked the whole G3-architecture, but at the WWDC Steve Jobs said they're gonna keep it and in the first Dev-Preview it was still included......

EDIT: I just realized I'm talking out of my arse. The Macbooks are running Lion Developer Preview, not retail. Its still Lion i suppose, just a bit less Lion.

that depends on witch DP u mean.....If you mean DP1, then..... yeah more snow leo, but DP2/3/4 are a bit more lion-like

A cub perhaps?

yeah something like that xD I myself had the DP1 and 3 on my old C2D-Mac mini (sold it 3 months ago)....

regards, felix
 
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Michelasso

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Stupid question, but does the DP have some drawback compared to the retail version? Cause, if the GMA950 driver issue can be solved then theoretically ML can also boot on the Classic Macbook (2006 MB1.1), can't it? Considering it has a 32 bit kernel.

Or am i talking out of my arse on this one? Which may very well be since i haven't actually owned a "modern" intel mac until last Saturday.

I know that has been answered already, but just to make it clear... what are you talking about?? :D

The DPs are the Developer Previews. i.e. BETA version of the OS. ML DP1 has been the only ML version with the 32 bits kernel. You wanna install that one? Sure you can. Probably it would work on a Core Duo 32 bits CPU as well. I mean.. when it works. It is obviously bugged, not definitive, the API may be different, some applications may/will crash. It would be just a call for troubles.
 

DaKKs

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Aug 15, 2012
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I know that has been answered already, but just to make it clear... what are you talking about?? :D

The DPs are the Developer Previews. i.e. BETA version of the OS. ML DP1 has been the only ML version with the 32 bits kernel. You wanna install that one? Sure you can. Probably it would work on a Core Duo 32 bits CPU as well. I mean.. when it works. It is obviously bugged, not definitive, the API may be different, some applications may/will crash. It would be just a call for troubles.

My OS of choice is Snow Leo anyway, but i like to tinker. And i have the space anyway. Why? Because I can.

I mean, Leopard on a Daystar Powerbook G3 is possible. It doesn't run very well, but its fun to play around with.
 
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