Both 1900 and 800 are available in my area. No 3G except when I drive out 10 miles near Walmart. What's the excuse for not covering the whole area?
edit: Oh forgot to mention...the only reason 3G is out there is thanks to Cellular One
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Has Anyone Held Out For Years Waiting For it to Come To VERIZON?
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Both 1900 and 800 are available in my area. No 3G except when I drive out 10 miles near Walmart. What's the excuse for not covering the whole area?
edit: Oh forgot to mention...the only reason 3G is out there is thanks to Cellular One
Your sentence explains it right. Its alot easier, simpler and cheaper to go towards the GSM standard. It doesnt mean that CDMA sucks, its just not widespread and worldwide supported any more. So I think the more we all switch to standard internationally used protocols, plugs and many other specifics the easier and better is for the consumer. It was kinda cool how the European union pushed cellphone manufacturers to stick to one type of charging port for both wall and car chargers. It was a move that will make things simpler and also cheaper for the consumer IMO.
If Verizon and Sprint also adapted GSM like the rest of the wordwide wireless carriers we probably wouldnt have this conversation right now.
If AT&T had more widespread and reliable 3G coverage then we wouldn't have this conversation right now. As I stated earlier, nobody is thrilled that Verizon and Sprint chose to go with CDMA back in the day. All of our lives would be a heck of a lot easier if they went GSM. But the fact of the matter is they have the most reliable coverage thorughout the US while AT&T is sorely lacking, and that is the crux of the problem.
Nope! Soooooo tired of waiting. Verizon was stupid in the first place to pass on the iphone no matter what Apple wanted. It cost them billions I'm sure.
So after being out of contract for over two years I jumped ship. Our phones will be here today or tomorrow. IF IF IF Verizon EVER gets smart enough to get the iphone I will consider going back after the phone is running smooth on Verizons system.
So after being out of contract for over two years I jumped ship. Our phones will be here today or tomorrow. IF IF IF Verizon EVER gets smart enough to get the iphone I will consider going back after the phone is running smooth on Verizons system.
Do you need internet to make you heart beat? No. It is something useful for us. It is nice to have. Also, cellphone companies treating customers bad? Why haven't I heard of that before? Oh wait, it has been happening ever since ALL mobile companies started.
Also, adequete service is the one the FCC is trying to put in every American household; a shinny 100Mb/s line.
Well there you go. I was wondering how long it would take you to say that and reveal your true colors. American's in rural areas are just a bunch of dumb hicks right? Dey don't need no none've dat fast internet stuff dem city folk been talkin bout.
If rural American's don't need mobile high speed internet, then why has Verizon installed their EV-DO network throughout most of rural America?
Do you really think I think of people as hicks? Well, then your method of thinking is somehow lacking, what do you call it? Ah yes! IQ. Rural America has 1.5Mb/s speeds, do you need 10Mb/s speeds? Complain to the FCC about the US falling behind in broadband penetration. Verizon set it up simply because all the required was a simple flick of a switch to make it say EV-DO instead of CDMA, however, their backhaul is the same...
Such superficial way of viewing things I must conclude you are just here to bash me and not contribute your thoughts to this. What a hoot.
Rural areas do benefit from it, but have their potential users made their complains of not having public? No, they are fine. I don't see a group of people from x town in a rural part petitioning AT&T to fire up 3G. Truth of the matter is, does people have more things to do with their lives rather than to spend time in front of a cellphone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_elenchi
Ignoratio elenchi (also known as irrelevant conclusion[1] or irrelevant thesis) is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may in itself be valid, but does not address the issue in question.
So you're saying that Verizon had a better game plan than AT&T? Wow, looks like we're making progress.
No matter how "great" a carrier is it will have its bad and good areas just like every other wireless company in the world.
Better game plan? Hardly, see: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/869012/
Also, Verizon had it easier, just flick a switch. AT&T did it the hard and right way.
Read the survey and frankly I was not impressed.
Number 1, we all know that AT&T is ok in cities but is an abomination anywhere outside a major city. This survey only tested cities. Believe it or not, America is composed of more than just major cities (I know this must come as a major revelation to you
). Number 2, that data is useless without them telling us the exact locations where they did the tests.
Number 3, there are other surveys which show Verizon as being superior AT&T. So we could play this game all day long.
One did it hard, then easy. The other easy, then hard.
Verizon took the harder path at first, by designing their networks for 3G, and siting their CDMA towers accordingly. Then it was easy for them to upgrade.
ATT took the easy path first by building a cheaper TDMA network, and then had to overlay a different WCDMA network on top of it in order to get 3G. Unfortunately, it's not compatible.
The original GSM towers were not situated correctly for WCDMA, and the frequencies that Europe put aside for 3G were not available here. The result is dropped calls even on a protocol that should avoid such.
So far, this 3G effort has cost them about ten times as much as it cost Verizon, and they still have far less coverage.
Read the survey and frankly I was not impressed.
Number 1, we all know that AT&T is ok in cities but is an abomination anywhere outside a major city. This survey only tested cities. Believe it or not, America is composed of more than just major cities (I know this must come as a major revelation to you
Number 2, that data is useless without them telling us the exact locations where they did the tests.
Number 3, there are other surveys which show Verizon as being superior AT&T. So we could play this game all day long.
1. Quoted 13 cities, there are many other reporting similar results
2. They do explain, just go and read the article at PC world. They explain on a grid 2 mi apart from each test site, more details in the article.
3. Name which ones from this year and current. (as in 2010)
13 cities are just that, cities. Cities do not comprise all of America. We don't live on an island. Maybe you should take a look at the map of the US. It's kinda big
. And there's a lot of space between cities. And believe it or not, there are people who live outside of cities . I know I know, this tidbit of information must be so overwhelming to comprehend. There was a Consumer Reports survey from December 2009 which showed Verizon rated number 1 and AT&T dead last. J.D. Power consistently ranks Verizon as the best in reliability and performance. Frankly, I don't care much about magazine surveys which was why I never bought it up. I find them flawed because cell phone coverage is something that can only be studied anecdotally as far as user experience. Yes, we can all go and camp outside an AT&T tower and get blazing fast 3G but that becomes irrelevant as I'm cruising down a highway, consistently dropping calls (as seems to be the experience of many iPhone users). To date, I have yet to hear of a single Verizon user who has dropped calls consistently.
http://www.consumersearch.com/cell-phone-plans/reviews
What you have or haven't heard is supposed to mean what?
Some posts here latelly are beyond a joke.
That's how you judge wireless providers? If you hear someone complain or not?
How about you actually try their service and if it doesn't cut it for you cancell within the 30 day trial period without any fees.
That's how you rate a carrier and obviously AT&T, verizon, Tmobile etc. Will vary. No one carrier is perfect on every single geographical location.
If you believe the hype and commercials you are naive to say the least....
Frequent customer complaints versus a lack thereof is a pretty accurate judge of a company's service. That's why consumer reports are around.
I'd like for you to provide some sort of response to att's customers' complaints in light of the apparant lack of verizon customer complaints. Until then, your responses are just irritated hot air.
I heard many people complain about verizons poor signal, slow internet speeds, dropped calls etc.
Many of them switched carriers and others stayed and are still putting up with the same but in addition they have a crappy storm2 and a $350 etf
So they're screwed twice as bad and can't get out.
Your responses are beyond childish, I'm not verizons or at&t's spokesman and I don't have to respond to anyones complaints. I'm just stating facts, my experince and some common sense. Something that you lack off
I heard many people complain about verizons poor signal, slow internet speeds, dropped calls etc.
Many of them switched carriers and others stayed and are still putting up with the same but in addition they have a crappy storm2 and a $350 etf
So they're screwed twice as bad and can't get out.
Your responses are beyond childish, I'm not verizons or at&t's spokesman and I don't have to respond to anyones complaints. I'm just stating facts, my experince and some common sense. Something that you lack off
Please point out this huge source of Verizon complainers about their network issues. Please, something that even attempts to rival the issues customers face on a daily basis with AT&T.
Competition is great! There's a study saying that At&t beats Verizon in speed for download and upload significantly. However, Verizon has more 3G coverage, yet At&t has more coverage(edge+3g). So, the threat of iphone or iPad going to Verizon has At&t motivated to improve network and hopefully 4g. So, like Apple, I am hopeful. I think that I will not switch to verizon, unless they have more 4g with better speed performance, too. Reason I think Verizon has more 3g is that they used cheaper materials. I wonder if Verizon's 3g faster than the At&t edge. If so, by how much? So, whose 4g is the fastest in 2012~~!
Saw this on The iPhone Blog.
Apple's COO Tim Cook says,
Seems like if Apple sees the potential to increase market share (more people with iPhones equals more people downloading apps equals more profit) they will go with multiple carriers.
If Apple believes they'll sell a significant amount more iPhones on Verizon they'll bring us a CDMA iPhone.
Apple's COO Tim Cook says,
Seems like if Apple sees the potential to increase market share (more people with iPhones equals more people downloading apps equals more profit) they will go with multiple carriers.
If Apple believes they'll sell a significant amount more iPhones on Verizon they'll bring us a CDMA iPhone.
Im talking about local friends and coworkers.
You want me to give you their phone number and home address too?
Get a life kid, I dont have to show you or prove to you anything.
Its simple, you dont like AT&T or dont get good service dont use them or the iphone. Or sit here and whine about no iphone on Verizon. Makes no difference to me.
No they won't. They said that in instances where single carriers was better they'll keep it that way. That said, here in the US that is the best choice. AT&T already has 75 Million people without iPhones. Also, they provide their great service to all. Verizon, well, there network is not up to the task, just see the results from the test PC world did; hint, their network decreased reliability and speeds.
Ha, yea I'm sure Apple is interested in providing the iPhone on the best network
. They're a lot more interested in who can provide them with the most commission which right now is AT&T. It's like a win win situation for both of them: Apple gets above market commission and AT&T gets the iPhone. Guess who loses? The customer who has to deal with AT&T's half baked service. The PC World test in my opinion is worthless. Somehow I doubt that AT&T has 95% reliability in NYC when their own damn CEO said that their NYC network is subpar and many people are still complaining about service in NYC. And nobody else other than PC World is claiming that AT&T has actually improved. I wonder how much AT&T kicked over to PC World for this "survey". Maybe they sent over Luke Wilson . Again as I said earlier, cities are not all of America. I know you are trying your best to dodge this fact but there is a lot of area outside of cities where people live. And I'm talking about suburbs and populated areas, not just some random places in the middle of nowhere. I wonder how well AT&T's 3G works there?What about dropped calls? To date, nobody has addressed the dropped call phenomenon that seems to be affecting iPhone/AT&T service. Oh right, I guess making phone calls doesn't really matter anymore, just 3G speeds, right?
Broke down and switched this week. Waiting on delivery of my iPhone right now. It should be here literally any minute now.
Lol
Protest about poor coverage and in the meantime keep paying AT&T.
Does that make any sense?
Protest with your wallet, bad service in your area, switch to a different carrier thats all.
Then when AT&T loses subscribers in that area maybe they will do something about it.