Sure. But if I'm going to go $1300 I might as well go $1600. I'm not mad, I was just hoping for a straightforwad, quality screen for close to $1k. For what you get, the Studio Display is priced well, it's just not for me. Which is fine.
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Has Apple lost their mind? March 8th Event Disappointment
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Except... there aren't, not really. I have a nice 4k 24" screen from LG. But once you go larger, you need more pixels to maintain sharpness and there's really not a lot that's 5k, 27-32". As I replied above, though, that's fine. I'll live...
If you live in a modest or large city, look around at all the video houses, audio production companies, design agencies, etc. Then realize you're just looking at the tip of the iceberg - there are contractors who do work for large companies, freelancers who make very good money doing indie work. If you make, say, $75K a year, spending $4k on your main tool that will last you ~5 years is reasonable. 5 x $75k is $375k. Spending 1% of your gross revenue for the tech that lets you do your job? Easy decision. Especially since if you sell that for ~30-50% of the purchase price when you upgrade the next iteration of it will only cost you $2500 or so.
Finally, remember that some companies don't buy outright, they lease their computers.
Most software companies I've worked for use Macs. Macs are quite popular for app and/or web development. The places that use Windows tend to develop web apps using .NET , desktop apps, and/or games. That's for engineering of course, many of the other business units like accounting, HR, etc. will stick with Windows.
These aren't meant to be high volume machines. The MBA is Apple's best selling Mac by a huge margin.
These aren't meant to be high volume machines. The MBA is Apple's best selling Mac by a huge margin.
They are creative computers not gaming computers. If you want to game you need a windows computer. Where you can have your RTX and the os that the majority of games are written for.
The problem is that Apple, and most other computer companies for that matter, as well as most technical people start quoting performance numbers in units that don’t mean anything to your average user. And what do you do when you don’t know what the numbers mean with any electronic device? You buy the computer that says it has the most per second of the measuring units that you can afford, even if you could use 1/2 that speed and only pay a few milliseconds penalty of time but save a few hundred dollars in cost. For any graphic system how low would the speed need to decrease for 97-98% of people to notice?
I think Windows has matured quite a bit for development purposes though in recent times. I am a software dev and I actually use mac for my work but for a lot of my personal projects I tend to use my windows desktop and I honestly feel with the now very mature WSL2, windows is just better all round machine. It is great for development (as long as you don't have a dependency on xcode) and you can do a lot more with it (imo) as a general computer than you can with a mac (ex. gaming). Personally, in my experience, windows is a lot more functional and feels faster than macos (although windows looks objectively bad, very inconsistent ux compared to a lot more refined macos ux).
Well, I don’t have any problems with your position. There is a price/feature point for most people. If I could afford to I would always buy things I am interested in with my only determining factors being performance and reliability.
I love it and bought an Ultra with 64GB/4TB. I suspect you are not the target customer. This will make Logic Pro and Final Cut sing and should do wonders for Xcode and Parallels Windows 11 with a bunch of memory and cores.
The fabric technology on the SoC is a breakthrough. This is nontrivial and gives them significant future headroom. The secret sauce is in the firmware and data flow that "unifies" these systems with shared unified memory. This is not simply a dual-core Xeon interconnect.
Totally agree. But do not hold your breath on quad. Scaling the fabric is technically really hard. This is not like the CPU interconnects of old.
This:
He makes good points, though most importantly sums it up quite well.
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While MCM designs are far from a new concept, it’s headed even more mainstream:
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He makes good points, though most importantly sums it up quite well.
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While MCM designs are far from a new concept, it’s headed even more mainstream:
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Windows (at least prior to 11, which I have not used yet) has far less GUI animations, textures, and transparency than macOS. Of course, whether this is good or bad remains subjective.
so I understand… so where to for the Mac Pro… It can’t be just a little better then the Mac Studio. a new entry level Silicon Mac Pro needs to be as good if not better then a maxed out Mac Studio and then upgradable into something eye wateringly expensive and fast… how do they do that?
I sort of don’t know what to think anymore. Jokes on us?
SJ got me hooked in 1986, and I’ve been critical of decisions they make that only benefit shareholders and hang their users out to dry, yet have always had plenty of reasons to stick with them. But I’ll admit, they’ve completely left me at this point. I like Tim Cook as a person, and he’s made Apple a lot of cash, but the product line has become… well, antithetical to everything I ever liked about Apple, products or company. If I had to write out all the intentional incompatibilities, loss of function, loss of value, & environmental costs of the extreme application of planned obsolescence in this stuff, I’d be here all day. It’s just not something I can bring myself to support. But old macs! Luckily, they made millions, and they’re all floating around out there in a wide variety of configurations, conditions, and prices, and they’re AWESOME. Maybe one day I’ll get on board new Apple again. A lot would have to change, but change is inevitable.
SJ got me hooked in 1986, and I’ve been critical of decisions they make that only benefit shareholders and hang their users out to dry, yet have always had plenty of reasons to stick with them. But I’ll admit, they’ve completely left me at this point. I like Tim Cook as a person, and he’s made Apple a lot of cash, but the product line has become… well, antithetical to everything I ever liked about Apple, products or company. If I had to write out all the intentional incompatibilities, loss of function, loss of value, & environmental costs of the extreme application of planned obsolescence in this stuff, I’d be here all day. It’s just not something I can bring myself to support. But old macs! Luckily, they made millions, and they’re all floating around out there in a wide variety of configurations, conditions, and prices, and they’re AWESOME. Maybe one day I’ll get on board new Apple again. A lot would have to change, but change is inevitable.
So what?
Thousands of people have... any google search or a search on Apples own community site indicates what I am saying is true. No doubt no even Mac mini made but its widespread enough of a problem to stop me buying another Mac mini (and I have had a few)
Its no longer for sale on Apple sites.
Apple has said nothing.
But there is plenty of reports in non fan boy media (google) saying things like this:
Goodbye, 27-inch iMac; hello Mac Studio and Studio Display — Apple discontinues all-in-one
I hope Gurman is right but
Goodbye, 27-inch iMac; hello Mac Studio and Studio Display — Apple discontinues all-in-one
You know that Real Time Raytracing and Game Engines are already being used for Movie Production?
When I look ahead for myself, the upgrade path is very murky. If/when this now 12 year old MacPro5,1 dies, I really am going to be struggling to decide what to do. I have never owned a PC. I hate working on them. And yet... Apple is either pricing their good products too highly, or making products that don't fit my needs. Or both.
I suggest you give PCs a shot again. Windows has gotten much better in the last 12 years. I daily drive both macos and windows and honestly if I did not have a work dependency on macos, I would definitely prefer using windows. Even Linux has matured a fair bit, distros like PopOS are really productive and easy to use.
For the MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro, and even the Mac mini? Absolutely, the M1 is a step change in what's possible in those form factors. It's a lot less clear cut with the 27" iMac though. With a big desktop like that perf/watt is less of a factor, and the desktop class CPUs used can keep up with M1 performance, while in graphics I believe I'm right in saying the base 27" (Radeon Pro 5300) outperforms the M1, and obviously goes much higher from there. Bear in mind even a mac mini ($699) plus Studio display ($1,599) plus mouse and keyboard ($300) comes in at $2,600, that's already a jump over the $1,799 entry level 27" iMac, the $1,999 mid tier 27" iMac (which gets you 512GB storage into the bargain) or even the $2,299 top stock configuration with the Radeon Pro 5500XT graphics/ 8GB VRAM.
Again, this is less about the entry level, and more about Apple squeezing out the good value products in the middle. The 27" iMac was probably about the last one of those standing, and now it's gone too, so your choice is now whittled down to that good but still entry level M1 experience, or ponying up a stack more for Apple's high end stuff.
Technically impressive
Aesthetically abysmal
Aesthetically abysmal
ham sorry but this is a machine for Productions Studios, not for General Consumers. Most Pipo will be working well with a M1 Mac Mini. Also the Studio display is well priced. It Replaces the LG 5K Monitor apple Sold in Thair Store and it was priced very Similar.
If you don't want spend to much money then Simply don't. Just get a M1 Mac mini and a Full HD Monitor.
Why are you complaining about 1tb? Again Studios usually never store their Stuff on the Work Machine so 1TB is More Than Enough.
Only Someone who is a End Consumer and don't work in Productions Business would complain cause they want it for cheaper and don't know the True Value of Studio Equipment.
Also u forget the Studio Display is not just a Simple Display. Its a computer in it self. it has a A15 Chip inside a 1080p Ultrawide Webcam and tons of crazy stuff
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