Other Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

[boltjames]

Don't see what the big deal is. I am still on an iphone 4 and an iPhone 6. I don't see anything noticeable in terms of performance. I can still game on it. I think it only affects people who run benchmarks on them for score sake.

And that's that, sums it up nicely. Throttlegate = over.
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This is awesome. Discount the experiences that other have because you are not experiencing them. Fantastic.

Why can't it be that some people are experiencing significant throttling and other aren't. If you aren't, great. No need for you to get a new battery. Others are truly having issues that can be (or have been) solved with a new battery.

Believe me, if this weren't a real problem, Apple wouldn't be doing the $29 battery replacement. They would demonstrate that the phones aren't throttled or slowed down at all.

Say it again because, you know, we didn't hear it the first time.

Get your discounted battery and move on. Complaining about this is pointless. The new battery is your lifeboat to a new phone. Use it for a year and then pick an Android of your choosing and enjoy.

 

[ftaok]

It's not "throttling". It's "power management" and it's been going on in iPhones since 2007.

Woo hoo someone using geekbench discovered it. It's not new news. Phones get old, batteries die out, iOS advances to maximize newer processors, and the end result is a slowed iPhone experience for prior gen models.

It's a miracle the truthers got $50 out of Apple and a relaxing of the rules around battery strength tests. They should count their blessings, get their discounted new OEM batteries, and move on.
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It's certainly not power management. If it were power management, the benchmark scores and actual performance would go back to normal speeds when the iPhone is plugged in, right?

I'm not saying Apple did anything with malicious intent. My opinion is that Apple came up with a fix to the sudden shutdown issue that had unintended and far reaching affects.

I actually think that Apple's battery design has changed for the worse, probably around 2015-2016. I think that they probably put the spec too low and these batteries are unable to deliver peak currents at much earlier points in the battery's life.
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And that's that, sums it up nicely. Throttlegate = over.
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Say it again because, you know, we didn't hear it the first time.

Get your discounted battery and move on. Complaining about this is pointless. The new battery is your lifeboat to a new phone. Use it for a year and then pick an Android of your choosing and enjoy.

I've already replaced my battery on my own. No big deal. Just trying to get a perspective out there that others are having problems. It's not a bogus issue.

But whatever.

 

[boltjames]

It's certainly not power management. If it were power management, the benchmark scores and actual performance would go back to normal speeds when the iPhone is plugged in, right?

I'm not saying Apple did anything with malicious intent. My opinion is that Apple came up with a fix to the sudden shutdown issue that had unintended and far reaching affects.

I actually think that Apple's battery design has changed for the worse, probably around 2015-2016. I think that they probably put the spec too low and these batteries are unable to deliver peak currents at much earlier points in the battery's life.

Good post, we'll disagree on the definition of "power management" but the rest I agree with. The battery design got worse in 2014 with the launch of the awesome iPhone 6 (my favorite iPhone) which was ridiculously thin. I think the race for thinness combined with the new features like 3D Touch and Control Center stressed the processor and thus stressed the battery.

No surprise that iPhone 8 and iPhone X got thicker and got bigger batteries.

 

[ftaok]

I think the race for thinness combined with the new features like 3D Touch and Control Center stressed the processor and thus stressed the battery.

No surprise that iPhone 8 and iPhone X got thicker and got bigger batteries.

Amen brotha!

I would love for Apple to go back to the iPhone 5 design, but with the bigger screens of the newer phones. That extra thickness would be a godsend for battery life. Plus a stupid thing that I miss from the 5 design is that you can stand it on it's own edge. Makes it a little easier to use as a level or to watch some shows/movies.

 

[joeblow7777]

Good post, we'll disagree on the definition of "power management" but the rest I agree with. The battery design got worse in 2014 with the launch of the awesome iPhone 6 (my favorite iPhone) which was ridiculously thin. I think the race for thinness combined with the new features like 3D Touch and Control Center stressed the processor and thus stressed the battery.

No surprise that iPhone 8 and iPhone X got thicker and got bigger batteries.

I thought that the 8/8+ actually had smaller batteries compared to the 7/7+. The slightly increased bulk comes from the glass back.

 

[MH01]

It's not "throttling". It's "power management" and it's been going on in iPhones since 2007.

Woo hoo someone using geekbench discovered it. It's not new news. Phones get old, batteries die out, iOS advances to maximize newer processors, and the end result is a slowed iPhone experience for prior gen models.

It's a miracle the truthers got $50 out of Apple and a relaxing of the rules around battery strength tests. They should count their blessings, get their discounted new OEM batteries, and move on.
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There's an Android with your name on it if your actions are as big as your rhetoric.
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Your iPhone 6 Plus is over 2 years old which is the expected life at full-performance a) per the Apple warranty you accepted at purchase and b) the terms and conditions of iOS 11 for which you hit the 'agree' button.

I'm not sure what you're upset about. Especially since you're getting a no-questions-asked OEM battery for $29.
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I expect my iPhone X to be affected as I enter Year 3.

It's why I'll buy a new battery or a new iPhone on that date.

Amazing . You could honestly sell a used car , you would try to explain to a person they are getting a power management feature and it's always been in iPhones . You are in fact lying . Power management has always been in phones , though the CPU throttling was only added in 10.2.1, As a result of poor batteries. you would flat out lie to someone ? You do realise Apple have admitted they added the throttling ?

Either you don't understand the actual issue here or in fact do work in sales , which explains twisting the facts to put a positive on any situation .

Telling me to go get an android is just childish. It's what all the apologists have resorted to in this debate, if you don't like it leave, that is missing the point. My retort , read the issue over and over and hopefully you will understand it. Look at apple's statement in regards to 10.2.1 , it's all there.

 

[apolloa]

in due time every 6,6s and 7 series iPhone that has upgraded to iOS 10.2.1 or 11.2 ( for 7's) will be throttled, unless the battery gets replaced on a regular basis.

Teouble is when you replace the battery in the iPhone 7 and newer, it will lose the water and dust resistance because the protection for this is provided by glue under the screen. So after a year, if you have your battery replaced because the phones being throttled, it will lose one of its main advertised features, that could be concluded as Apple selling a device not for for purpose.

 

[LovingTeddy]

I start my BMW, I get a message that says I need service, I get a call from the BMW concierge. I bring the car in, I get a complimentary croissant and a cappuccino, they give me a courtesy ride back to the office. Later that day, I'm in my car, and the service message is gone. What the BMW techs have done to the car I do not know nor do I care. The car is on the road and that's that.



Oh no, not $450 MILLION! Let's see, Apple has a value of $750 BILLION, so that lawsuit hit Apple to the tune of 0.06% of their net worth! Ahhhh! Noooo!

For reference, that's like someone winning a lawsuit against you for a pack of gum.

That is not how car service bening done. Tecnnican check the problem, tell the customer what the problem is, what to do with the problem and price. Customer will agree to do so. It is all about consent. No company or any store can sell you to change your stuff without your consent.

Also, it doesn't matter what the vauke for the lawsuit. Loss is loss. Nothing more nothing less. Loss means Apple is wrong and pubished. We will see what the result is
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Teouble is when you replace the battery in the iPhone 7 and newer, it will lose the water and dust resistance because the protection for this is provided by glue under the screen. So after a year, if you have your battery replaced because the phones being throttled, it will lose one of its main advertised features, that could be concluded as Apple selling a device not for for purpose.

If you replace the battery with Apple or authorized service provider, you will be fine with replacing battery for 8, 8+ and X.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

That is not how car service bening done. Tecnnican check the problem, tell the customer what the problem is, what to do with the problem and price. Customer will agree to do so. It is all about consent. No company or any store can sell you to change your stuff without your consent.

Also, it doesn't matter what the vauke for the lawsuit. Loss is loss. Nothing more nothing less. Loss means Apple is wrong and pubished. We will see what the result is
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If you replace the battery with Apple or authorized service provider, you will be fine with replacing battery for 8, 8+ and X.

I've got a service contract on my Mercedes-AMG. I couldn't care less what they do with my vehicle to keep it up to the AMG standards. If it has a loss of power I go back and they fix it. I'm not going to tell them how to do their job, the AMG team are specialist trained engineers much better at their job than I am...The service is included in the cost of the vehicle, it doesn't cost me anything extra other than consumables like tyres, brake pad/discs and guess what batteries

There are more parallels than there are not in my opinion...

 

[apolloa]

That is not how car service bening done. Tecnnican check the problem, tell the customer what the problem is, what to do with the problem and price. Customer will agree to do so. It is all about consent. No company or any store can sell you to change your stuff without your consent.

Also, it doesn't matter what the vauke for the lawsuit. Loss is loss. Nothing more nothing less. Loss means Apple is wrong and pubished. We will see what the result is
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If you replace the battery with Apple or authorized service provider, you will be fine with replacing battery for 8, 8+ and X.

So if Apple replace the battery the device will retain its waterproof ness?

 

[oldhifi]

My IPhone works great with TMobile

 

[Phone Junky]

First off, I don't own an iPhone that has been slowed down. Therefore, I can't really comment on whether this is a big deal. It's the people that don't have an issue with their phone, and continually post in these threads that the people that do have issues, are wrong or making something out of nothing. Those guys crack me up.
Why are you even in these threads? Your phone is fine. What do you have to gain by telling others they are wrong? If you see a thread about throttling, skip it and go on to something else. You know you won't agree with what the throttled are saying.
Unless you work for Apple or own Apple shares, why do you really care?

 

[lazard]

Depends who you're asking. For consumers that were using an older phone and were urged to upgrade or are still using an older phone, it's a big deal. For the enthusiasts who upgrade to the newest iphone every year, they couldn't care less.

 

[Phone Junky]

Amen brotha!

I would love for Apple to go back to the iPhone 5 design, but with the bigger screens of the newer phones. That extra thickness would be a godsend for battery life.

iPhone SE is only .3 mm (.012") thicker than iPhone 8 and is THINNER than iPhone X.

 

[QuantumLo0p]

I cannot believe anyone is actually going to back Apple's defense on this matter. Apple's thinly veiled excuse for a reason belies they were intentionally, illegally, unethically and immorally crippling hardware for their own profit. I fully endorse states' attorney generals to pursue legal action against Apple; levy heavy fines, compensation to iPhone owners and a formal apology from Cook. I was just about to say I extremely surprised there are any comments supporting Apple at all but then again it is well known that Apple heavily trolls Macrumors forums for their benefit.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

A bit dramatic...

 

[boltjames]

That is not how car service bening done. Tecnnican check the problem, tell the customer what the problem is, what to do with the problem and price. Customer will agree to do so. It is all about consent. No company or any store can sell you to change your stuff without your consent.

Sure it’s how car servicing works. This is how it is with brand new cars under warranty. BMW is responsible for keeping the car up to spec, replacing consumables, adhering to safety standards, updating the firmware on the infotainment systems, etc.

I have no say on any of this maintenence and if I chose to pass on any of it I would void my warranty.

 

[ftaok]

iPhone SE is only .3 mm (.012") thicker than iPhone 8 and is THINNER than iPhone X.

Good to know that. I didn't realize the newer phones got some added bulk.

But I was more thinking about the differences between the SE and the 6/6S design. The SE is 10% thicker.

 

[boltjames]

I cannot believe anyone is actually going to back Apple's defense on this matter. Apple's thinly veiled excuse for a reason belies they were intentionally, illegally, unethically and immorally crippling hardware for their own profit. I fully endorse states' attorney generals to pursue legal action against Apple; levy heavy fines, compensation to iPhone owners and a formal apology from Cook.

Apple should do no such thing. Those still using old jailbroken iPhones do so at their own risk. If they are incompatible with newer power management protocols too bad.

As someone always in new iPhones I don’t want my iOS innovations to slow or my iPhone prices to rise because a small minority hack the OS, abuse their hardware, and run some BS benchmarking app to make a phony case that they are entitled to retribution.

 

[Phone Junky]

Apple should do no such thing. Those still using old jailbroken iPhones do so at their own risk. If they are incompatible with newer power management protocols too bad.

As someone always in new iPhones I don’t want my iOS innovations to slow or my iPhone prices to rise because a small minority hack the OS, abuse their hardware, and run some BS benchmarking app to make a phony case that they are entitled to retribution.

I must have missed something. Where were jailbroken phones mentioned?

 

[apolloa]

Amen brotha!

I would love for Apple to go back to the iPhone 5 design, but with the bigger screens of the newer phones. That extra thickness would be a godsend for battery life. Plus a stupid thing that I miss from the 5 design is that you can stand it on it's own edge. Makes it a little easier to use as a level or to watch some shows/movies.

Also their is no camer hump with the older designs.... I wouldn’t say no to it if it meant a bigger battery. It also gave you more grip too.

 

[boltjames]

I must have missed something. Where were jailbroken phones mentioned?

Jailbreakers fit the profile.

 

[Raist3001]

I cannot believe anyone is actually going to back Apple's defense on this matter.

I agree. This was an unethical move on apple's part. The solution to throttle is not a bad solution. In and of itself, its no big deal. The sin is where apple failed to let the public know of its solution and how a battery change would again make your phone like new. Instead, these very same people believed an update would solve their problem, and apple benefited from all the upgrade dollars. That is terrible behavior from a company that prides itself on trust. Had this not come out, no way was apple going to make this public knowledge. Again, terrible behavior.

 

[boltjames]

I agree. This was an unethical move on apple's part. The solution to throttle is not a bad solution. In and of itself, its no big deal. The sin is where apple failed to let the public know of its solution and how a battery change would again make your phone like new. Instead, these very same people believed an update would solve their problem, and apple benefited from all the upgrade dollars. That is terrible behavior from a company that prides itself on trust. Had this not come out, no way was apple going to make this public knowledge. Again, terrible behavior.

Apple updated their OS and is helping millions of old iPhones avoid a shutdown and that’s a bad thing?

And this conspiracy logic makes no sense. Trust me, if Apple really wanted to be evil and force people to buy a new iPhone they would have just done nothing. Let the batteries die. Spending $80 on a battery or just getting a new iPhone? The majority would just get a new iPhone.

This Apple assassination is ludicrous on numerous grounds. Enough already.

 

[Phone Junky]

Jailbreakers fit the profile.

Serious question. You have 42 posts in this thread. Why are you so passionate about something that doesn't affect you?