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HDR (High Dynamic Range) photography - post your HDR
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No General, I am not trying to get back at you, I'm not an HDR-Only Photographer who was scolded by your remarks (in fact, I shoot mainly film). I am simply a person that shows respect and values others work. Your comments were rude and disrespectful to the people in this thread. Just as many Film photographers believe digital photography is too easy or less than their art-form; If you were to say things about other photographs, not just HDR, with remarks such as those, I would defend my point in the same way. This is Art. You obviously have your own opinions on it already, I'm simply asking you to respect others who might have opinions contrary to your own. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and isn't for one person to judge someone's skill on the method they use to achieve it.
This is my last post towards you, I hope you take something away from it, and in the future, show a little bit more restraint in your opinions.
No General, I am not trying to get back at you, I'm not an HDR-Only Photographer who was scolded by your remarks (in fact, I shoot mainly film). I am simply a person that shows respect and values others work. Your comments were rude and disrespectful to the people in this thread. Just as many Film photographers believe digital photography is too easy or less than their art-form; If you were to say things about other photographs, not just HDR, with remarks such as those, I would defend my point in the same way. This is Art. You obviously have your own opinions on it already, I'm simply asking you to respect others who might have opinions contrary to your own. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and isn't for one person to judge someone's skill on the method they use to achieve it.
This is my last post towards you, I hope you take something away from it, and in the future, show a little bit more restraint in your opinions.
Looks like a painting! That's the idea, right?
You guys can have your HDR, I'll stick to my film.
You're absolutely right. Err, wait, no you're absolutely wrong. Bryan Niven doesn't necessarily use 'HDR' on his photos, but in his own amazing way, he does. And, if Apple considers him a Pro, then so shall I
Bryan Niven on Apple.com
Bryan Niven.com
If you look at his photos, they all have that surreal, HDR look and feel to them. So... take your opinions and keep them to yourself. Photography is ART, and HDR is an ART, a breakoff of Photography.
We don't like your kind around here. Just be positive. And by the way, your failed attempt at 'Easy HDR' doesn't help your cause out at all.
Bryan Niven's shots might be composited, but don't look like utter garbage. I laugh at your attempt to call my 5-minute zomgtastic HDR shot "failed" ... you obviously are only calling it that because I am saying I dislike HDR. Had I just posted that and not said how I feel about HDR, you idiots would have been all over it, drooling, calling it art. Taking 3 photos, opening them in Photomatix and moving two sliders is not an artform, it's not cool, it's not complicated. Do you honestly believe Bryan Niven uses Photomatix? I just laughed out loud.
HDR is just a good way to ruin what would otherwise be an interesting photo.
Did I say he used photomatix? NO, I said he does his own style, in HIS OWN WAY, and they do to some extent contain a 'High Dynamic Range' between the shadows and the highlights and everything in between. I know he does them composited, and spends hours and hours and hours doing them.
What do filters do? They extend the Dynamic Range. What's the point of bracketing? To capture the Dynamic Range.
Digital HDR images are just an extension of that.
You're comparing taking several improperly exposed digital shots and opening them in Photomatix which will do every for you ... to capturing properly exposed shots, properly developed film, and using filters, burning and dodging in the darkroom to pull detail out of highlights and shadows? The difference is so grand that anyone who works in a dark room will laugh at you.
The point of bracketing a shot is to ensure that you have at least one properly exposed shot. That is why some cameras have automatic exposure bracketing, it's not for HDR. If you thought it was, then lol.
what i find particularly amusing is how defensive all the HDR-heads get when someone takes an opinion that is not positive towards HDR.
as far as i am concerned, most of the time (and almost all of the time in this thread) HDR looks divisive, gimmicky, contrived and often goes a long way to try and hide the mediocrity of the original photo. having said that, there are a few images done in HDR that are quite lovely that i have seen, one or two on this thread.
to me, HDR is to photography as Michael Bay is to cinema. it does not mean that "Armageddon" was not entertaining. But it does mean that for the most part it was trite and full of superficial crap.
at the end of the day, neither HDR nor a 1Ds MKIII will make a talentless photographer into a talented one; but nor will it make a brilliant photographer into an inept one either. if you want to use HDR, and it makes you happy then go for it; someone does not like it? screw them.
But i have to ask: is this thread for critique and opinion, or is it to stroke the egos of the people who post work here?
as far as i am concerned, most of the time (and almost all of the time in this thread) HDR looks divisive, gimmicky, contrived and often goes a long way to try and hide the mediocrity of the original photo. having said that, there are a few images done in HDR that are quite lovely that i have seen, one or two on this thread.
to me, HDR is to photography as Michael Bay is to cinema. it does not mean that "Armageddon" was not entertaining. But it does mean that for the most part it was trite and full of superficial crap.
at the end of the day, neither HDR nor a 1Ds MKIII will make a talentless photographer into a talented one; but nor will it make a brilliant photographer into an inept one either. if you want to use HDR, and it makes you happy then go for it; someone does not like it? screw them.
But i have to ask: is this thread for critique and opinion, or is it to stroke the egos of the people who post work here?
From the person who knows nothing about Photography
Well General I will agree with you about one thing I did think that your Pic was interesting. Im not a Photographer nor an Artist, and I can only express my own opinion. I like what you did. Is it the best Ive ever seen? nope but I really do like it.
I like a lot of the HDR stuff that Ive seen so far. A LOT. So to everyone else good job and keep it up!
Well General I will agree with you about one thing I did think that your Pic was interesting. Im not a Photographer nor an Artist, and I can only express my own opinion. I like what you did. Is it the best Ive ever seen? nope but I really do like it.
I like a lot of the HDR stuff that Ive seen so far. A LOT. So to everyone else good job and keep it up!
The General's motives are so transparent it's laughable. He tries HDR, fails, goes on an ignorant uninformed rant, then posts another crappy HDR of his that is supposed to be proof that ZOMG HDR IZ DA SUXXORZ!! Pathetic.
Read for comprehension: HDR is highly useful for tricky lighting situations, and is also employed frequently for interior photography as a means of leveling the uneven exposure between windows and the interior scene.
Here are some of my recent HDR examples where I'm confident the use of HDR enhanced the photo.
This above was from three handheld RAWs. Prepping to use HDR allowed me to shoot straight into the sun but still have an even exposure throughout the photo.
Above - again, HDR aided with this single RAW exposure in giving a vibrancy and evenly distributed exposure.
That's all for now.
Read for comprehension: HDR is highly useful for tricky lighting situations, and is also employed frequently for interior photography as a means of leveling the uneven exposure between windows and the interior scene.
Here are some of my recent HDR examples where I'm confident the use of HDR enhanced the photo.
This above was from three handheld RAWs. Prepping to use HDR allowed me to shoot straight into the sun but still have an even exposure throughout the photo.
Above - again, HDR aided with this single RAW exposure in giving a vibrancy and evenly distributed exposure.
That's all for now.
Nice Work
Valdore,
That first pic with the car and the sky is pretty stunning...well done, good use of HDR. I don't think it would have been nearly as interesting without it. Epic.
Valdore,
That first pic with the car and the sky is pretty stunning...well done, good use of HDR. I don't think it would have been nearly as interesting without it. Epic.
I think there's just too much foreground interest! I really, really want to see more of the mountain.
Valdore, I always love your photos, and your positive comments on anything, regardless of who says it or how they say it.
General, you're a troll, and I'm just going to ignore you.
General, you're a troll, and I'm just going to ignore you.
Great shot, I do agree that HDR really enhances this image.The General's motives are so transparent it's laughable. He tries HDR, fails, goes on an ignorant uninformed rant, then posts another crappy HDR of his that is supposed to be proof that ZOMG HDR IZ DA SUXXORZ!! Pathetic.
Read for comprehension: HDR is highly useful for tricky lighting situations, and is also employed frequently for interior photography as a means of leveling the uneven exposure between windows and the interior scene.
Here are some of my recent HDR examples where I'm confident the use of HDR enhanced the photo.
This above was from three handheld RAWs. Prepping to use HDR allowed me to shoot straight into the sun but still have an even exposure throughout the photo.
I was out shooting ghosts, and all of a sudden the mountain lit up bright red, (only lasted for about 10 minutes) I didnt think I'd be able to capture the bright color with just one snap shot. So I took 5.
I think that photo is AWESOME! Deviates from the typical mountain shots that are overdone here. I like it a lot!
"California Romance"
@valdore - As you said, HDR made it so you can shoot directly into the sun. Why not just shoot with the sun to your back? You proved even further than HDR is the crutch of a terrible photographer.
Jeeze.... General, I honestly wish there was a way to ban you from this thread. You're already beaten, just accept it already and leave this thread alone.
Indeed. Notice how he didn't argue any salient point, he just reiterated his previous intellectual diarrhea; equaling argument lost. If this was fifty years ago he'd be arguing that color film is the crutch of the terrible photographer.
