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Apple_Robert

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I ended up getting the Paradigm 2.0 and they are comfy! Bought another pair of Altras for casual wear. I like the wide toe box, my toes can wiggle!

I was finally able to test them out last weekand they were comfortable. No foot cramps! I ran about 3.6miles at the golf course, gently rolling pavement. It was my first time running on solid ground. Sometimes my feet cramp up (my right more than left) the first 15-30 minutes when I trail run (i wear Salomon and La Sportivas for trail running) but i did not experience any foot cramps with the Altras (wide toe box? maybe because I was running on the pavement?).

I worry about my knees running on pavement/harder surface vs trail running. It was nice to see a more consistent pace and cadence on my Garmin.
Glad to know Altra is working well for you. I really do like the Paradigm. You should experience less (to no) knee problems wearing Altra, as the shoe encourages good posture.

You should give the Altra Olympus 2.0 a try for your trail running. Altra Superior 2.0 (also for trail) are even more comfortable than the Paradigm, in my opinion.

Hope your running continues to go well for you.
 

ardchoille50

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Glad to know Altra is working well for you. I really do like the Paradigm. You should experience less (to no) knee problems wearing Altra, as the shoe encourages good posture.

You should give the Altra Olympus 2.0 a try for your trail running. Altra Superior 2.0 (also for trail) are even more comfortable than the Paradigm, in my opinion.

Hope your running continues to go well for you.
Thanks for that. Since purchasing some Sauconys, I'm beginning to worry less about money and more about quality when it comes to shoes. I'll be researching the Altra line and it was nice to hear of more options.
 

ardchoille50

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Yesterday was my birthday, I'm 53 years old. I would like to post a picture of a man who has been my inspiration for the last two years. Sam Bryant is over 70 years old and still lifts weights. He is why I believe that age is just a number.

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Huntn

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Yesterday was my birthday, I'm 53 years old. I would like to post a picture of a man who has been my inspiration for the last two years. Sam Bryant is over 70 years old and still lifts weights. He is why I believe that age is just a number.

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I wonder if he has any back issues? :p For myself, age is a real factor which has slowly degraded my physical capacity and abilities. It's all based on your genes, in combination with how well you treat yourself. I have longevity in my family, but none of the family member over 70 look anything like him.
 
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ardchoille50

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I wonder if he has any back issues? :p For myself, age is a real factor which has slowly degraded my physical capacity and abilities. It's all based on your genes, in combination with how well you treat yourself. I have longevity in my family, but none of the family member over 70 look anything like him.
True. Also, I think he has been doing this for at least half of his life. I doubt beginning a weight training program over 50 years of age would yield a body like that, many people would give up due to the diet and work required. I started at age 51 (2 years ago) and am only now beginning to see results - things would have gone a lot faster and easier had I started a decade ago.
 
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Glad to know Altra is working well for you. I really do like the Paradigm. You should experience less (to no) knee problems wearing Altra, as the shoe encourages good posture.

You should give the Altra Olympus 2.0 a try for your trail running. Altra Superior 2.0 (also for trail) are even more comfortable than the Paradigm, in my opinion.

Hope your running continues to go well for you.

Thank you! Do you think the Altra Olympus would perform well on rocky (at time steep) terrain?


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Today i signed up for my first running event which happens to be a 4 mile trail run. I am a little bit nervous because i haven't run a race before. I am not gunning to be one of the top finishers but I certainly would like to avoid dropping out (DNF?).

I usually hike and trail run on the weekends, row for 20 minutes 3 times a week. I am hoping this would suffice.

This is what my typical trail run looks like:

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This is the course:

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I notice that for short runs like this no one wears a hydration vest. I tend to carry one everytime I'm out trail running (sweater) with at least a liter of water (with Nuun tab) I finish about half of that on a 4 mile trail run in cool weather. I know I shouldn't care but is a hydration vest considered overboard for a 4mile trail run? I prefer to use my own hydration and I like having pockets for my phone, a bar etc.

Any beginner tips appreciated:)
 
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JamesMike

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Thank you! Do you think the Altra Olympus would perform well on rocky (at time steep) terrain?


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Today i signed up for my first running event which happens to be a 4 mile trail run. I am a little bit nervous because i haven't run a race before. I am not gunning to be one of the top finishers but I certainly would like to avoid dropping out (DNF?).

I usually hike and trail run on the weekends, row for 20 minutes 3 times a week. I am hoping this would suffice.

This is what my typical trail run looks like:

7244cb293eed6fb5c791843e1677e575.jpg


This is the course:

55d7820cc3dd2adf73dfb906a31e44ce.jpg


I notice that for short runs like this no one wears a hydration vest. I tend to carry one everytime I'm out trail running (sweater) with at least a liter of water (with Nuun tab) I finish about half of that on a 4 mile trail run in cool weather. I know I shouldn't care but is a hydration vest considered overboard for a 4mile trail run? I prefer to use my own hydration and I like having pockets for my phone, a bar etc.

Any beginner tips appreciated:)

It is never overboard to have hydration vest with you, you never know if you might get stuck on a trail do to injury and need the water.
 

Apple_Robert

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Thank you! Do you think the Altra Olympus would perform well on rocky (at time steep) terrain?


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Today i signed up for my first running event which happens to be a 4 mile trail run. I am a little bit nervous because i haven't run a race before. I am not gunning to be one of the top finishers but I certainly would like to avoid dropping out (DNF?).

I usually hike and trail run on the weekends, row for 20 minutes 3 times a week. I am hoping this would suffice.

This is what my typical trail run looks like:

7244cb293eed6fb5c791843e1677e575.jpg


This is the course:

55d7820cc3dd2adf73dfb906a31e44ce.jpg


I notice that for short runs like this no one wears a hydration vest. I tend to carry one everytime I'm out trail running (sweater) with at least a liter of water (with Nuun tab) I finish about half of that on a 4 mile trail run in cool weather. I know I shouldn't care but is a hydration vest considered overboard for a 4mile trail run? I prefer to use my own hydration and I like having pockets for my phone, a bar etc.

Any beginner tips appreciated:)
The Altra Olympus 2.0 has excellent traction for tough terrain. It also has a lot of cushion, which comes in handy during the long runs. I highly recommend it or the Superior 2.0 (which you can find on sale most places).

As to wearing a hydration pack, I wear one all the time. Of course, my average run during the week is 15 miles, and my long run on Saturday being 26 - 40 miles. Even if my runs were a lot shorter, I would still wear a hydration vest. I believe in training with the same gear I race with. I also believe in being prepared when running, as you never know what may happen to you or someone else, and circumstances require extra fluids, 911, food etc.

A 4 mile run is rather short for a hydration vest. However, go ahead and use it. You don't want to change anything on race day, as that can (possibly) create unforeseen problems.

As to race training, try and run trails that have the same kind of terrain as the race course, if at all possible. If that is not possible, incorporate running hills one day a week in your training. Run up at a consistent pace and either walk or slow job back down the hill. Running hills will really benefit you when you are out on the trails, as well as race day. I typically spend an 60 - 90 mins just running hills on my hill day. I preface that with a 10 mile run, so that my body gets warmed up and better able to handle the rigors of running hills.

When running hills, make sure not to overstride (going up or down) as that can put undue stress on your knees etc. Keep your steps short and underneath your hips when running. You want a higher cadence versus an overly long stride.

With your training, try and work up to running 6 - 8 miles at a time, instead of stopping at 4 miles. Working up to a longer distance in training will better prepare your body for race day.

In regards to hydration, I use a product called Tailwind. It mixes instantly in water, instant overly sweet, and doesn't leave your gut overly bloated. It supplies all the nutrients an exercise person needs to keep properly hydrated, so that one can keep going. No need to gels and the like with Tailwind.

When is your race? How any If you give me some more information about your race and training history (running) thus far, I can provide more specific advice.
 

Badagri

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True. Also, I think he has been doing this for at least half of his life. I doubt beginning a weight training program over 50 years of age would yield a body like that, many people would give up due to the diet and work required. I started at age 51 (2 years ago) and am only now beginning to see results - things would have gone a lot faster and easier had I started a decade ago.

I first started weights last June at 35. Hoping I'll continue with it for a very long time as I love it. Also loving doing the push ups with them. Also like keeping the cardio in between.

I'm amazed the shape it has created on my arms, shoulders and neck. Let alone how freaking awesome it feels with stamina and fitness.
 
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Huntn

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I first started weights last June at 35. Hoping I'll continue with it for a very long time as I love it. Also loving doing the push ups with them. Also like keeping the cardio in between.

I'm amazed the shape it has created on my arms, shoulders and neck. Let alone how freaking awesome it feels with stamina and fitness.

Being fit can be addictive. ;)
 
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xthine

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It is never overboard to have hydration vest with you, you never know if you might get stuck on a trail do to injury and need the water.

Right, especially going solo in the high desert. Even in the winter I tend to bring more water than I think I need just i case.

The Altra Olympus 2.0 has excellent traction for tough terrain. It also has a lot of cushion, which comes in handy during the long runs. I highly recommend it or the Superior 2.0 (which you can find on sale most places).

As to wearing a hydration pack, I wear one all the time. Of course, my average run during the week is 15 miles, and my long run on Saturday being 26 - 40 miles. Even if my runs were a lot shorter, I would still wear a hydration vest. I believe in training with the same gear I race with. I also believe in being prepared when running, as you never know what may happen to you or someone else, and circumstances require extra fluids, 911, food etc.

A 4 mile run is rather short for a hydration vest. However, go ahead and use it. You don't want to change anything on race day, as that can (possibly) create unforeseen problems.

As to race training, try and run trails that have the same kind of terrain as the race course, if at all possible. If that is not possible, incorporate running hills one day a week in your training. Run up at a consistent pace and either walk or slow job back down the hill. Running hills will really benefit you when you are out on the trails, as well as race day. I typically spend an 60 - 90 mins just running hills on my hill day. I preface that with a 10 mile run, so that my body gets warmed up and better able to handle the rigors of running hills.

When running hills, make sure not to overstride (going up or down) as that can put undue stress on your knees etc. Keep your steps short and underneath your hips when running. You want a higher cadence versus an overly long stride.

With your training, try and work up to running 6 - 8 miles at a time, instead of stopping at 4 miles. Working up to a longer distance in training will better prepare your body for race day.

In regards to hydration, I use a product called Tailwind. It mixes instantly in water, instant overly sweet, and doesn't leave your gut overly bloated. It supplies all the nutrients an exercise person needs to keep properly hydrated, so that one can keep going. No need to gels and the like with Tailwind.

When is your race? How any If you give me some more information about your race and training history (running) thus far, I can provide more specific advice.

Your running is impressive! Thank you for your help :)
I thought about getting a new pair or shoes and using a hand held soft bottle for the event his weekend too but you are right, it is best to use gear that I've been used to (I use a Nathan VaporAiress whenever I trail run).

I have been working on my cadence and breathing, I realized that I am bending from the waist trying to be on a kind of horizontal position while running up hill which is not good vs. a more upright position?

Whether hiking or trail running I seem to have more trouble the first 20 to 30 minutes. In the first 30 minutes of trail running I may stop a few times to catch my breath (or take a picture :D), stops are usually less than a minute. E.g. I may stop once near the end of a 0.6 mile 5.8% grade 192 ft of gain segment (18min/mile) or after a 0.4 mile 6.2% 134 ft of gain segment.
I tried the run/walk method last weekend and I feel more tired doing that vs. run and stop.
My trail running pace is anywhere between 10 minutes to 13-18 minutes per mile depending on the trail condition/terrain. I trail run anywhere between 4 to 8 miles with 400 to 800 feet of gain, the last few weeks I have been averaging 5 to 6 miles. Looking at my stats cadence was averaging 137 when I started and lately it has been in the 160s, rarely low 170s.

I started trail running August of last year and I am only able to do it weekends. I have never been in a race before and my first race is this weekend (and now I am thinking what have I gotten myself into lol). I figure it's something to get my feet wet, the goal for me would be to finish (and hopefully not finish last).
 
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ardchoille50

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For the last two weeks I've been hitting the gym in the morning before school (5-5:55 a.m.). It's made a huge difference in how I feel, and even how I wake up. Maybe it's mental? Of course, it still leaves me time for a decent nap after school.
I've noticed the same thing since beginning a weight training program two years ago. Physical activity can have an impact on sleep patterns, diet and overall mood. Exercise does a body good :)
 

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For the last two weeks I've been hitting the gym in the morning before school (5-5:55 a.m.). It's made a huge difference in how I feel, and even how I wake up. Maybe it's mental? Of course, it still leaves me time for a decent nap after school.

I hit the pool approximately from Noon to 1:30, 3 times a week I wonder if exercising at a particular time of day makes any difference, other than I imagine working out early makes you go to bed early.
 

Badagri

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I've noticed the same thing since beginning a weight training program two years ago. Physical activity can have an impact on sleep patterns, diet and overall mood. Exercise does a body good :)

I find I need less sleep and what is this feeling I feel hot a lot of the time. I sweat so easily over the smallest things and if I keep doing it, it'll start running a lot. Usually my back ends up soaking in no time. Thats not counting the 2 hour work outs which looks like someone turned a hose on me.

Also lost my Christmas weight. Had put 3lbs on over Christmas. Took me up to 167.8lbs. Now down to 163.6lbs. 9.6lbs away from target. Come on 154! 71.4lbs lost in total.

From what I see on my stomach looks a little more than 9lbs. Not huge but I want it taut. Will be interesting to see where I reach the second last goal.

Oh and my damn belt buckles are coming undone so easily now. Already went through 3 belts as they've become so big.
 

AlliFlowers

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I hit the pool approximately from Noon to 1:30, 3 times a week I wonder if exercising at a particular time of day makes any difference, other than I imagine working out early makes you go to bed early.

It definitely seems to make a difference. It hasn't changed when I go to bed, though. One of the reasons I switched to the morning is so that I can fit in my afternoon nap. One of the side effects of two of the meds I'm currently taking is extreme fatigue, so naps are necessary.
 
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Cnasty

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I usually walk briskly or jog when I am really feeling up to it in my neighborhood but it has been really cold this winter and also with 2 kids it has been tougher to get out there.

So I have been going back and forth on buying a treadmill but wanted to get any realworld feedback on anyone that owns one and actually uses it everyday and if they are worth it.

I am looking at this one which is 50% off at my local store.

I've heard very good things and I like the warranty offerings for a first time buyer.
Thanks for any help as I try to get back on the fit wagon!!!

https://www.proform.com/treadmills/pro2000
 

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Did oatmeal this morning. Made with water. Threw in chopped walnuts, dried currants and golden raisins, dehydrated apple bits (done at home), sprinkling of flax and a drizzle of honey. It kept me full until about 3-4 PM. Ate it around 8 AM after I was done with the kids. I measured out about 60 grams worth of raw steel cut. Back to eggs tomorrow. Oatmeal 2-3 a week should suffice.
 
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I washed some steel cut this morning until it ran clean and then cooked that down until it soaked up the water. Without the excess starch or rather the soluble fiber, it was very much like consuming quinoa. Really enjoyable with some chapped mango and apple. I don't think brand matters much except making sure you haven't gotten instant/pre-cooked and dehydrated steel cut oatmeal.
 

Cnasty

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Anyone here doing any HIIT form of exercise with a treadmill?

I used to do a 20 minute circuit but recently got a new treadmill again and excited to get back at it to cut some of these excess pounds down and get my blood flowing.
 

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Not me, but it should have a built in HIIT function. If not, I'm sure there is some interval program that varies between speed and grade that would reflect the process.
 

TheDoubler55

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Yesterday was my birthday, I'm 53 years old. I would like to post a picture of a man who has been my inspiration for the last two years. Sam Bryant is over 70 years old and still lifts weights. He is why I believe that age is just a number.

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Age is definitely just a number, you have to take care of yourself and eat right.
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Being fit can be addictive. ;)
I started back up a month ago and I feel great! Sleeping better, and overall life has been great!
 

Cnasty

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Not me, but it should have a built in HIIT function. If not, I'm sure there is some interval program that varies between speed and grade that would reflect the process.

I heard this as well and will have to check it out once it is delivered this week. Excited to get back on a consistent plan at home as being busy with the kids and life having the ease at home will be huge.
 

TheDoubler55

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I heard this as well and will have to check it out once it is delivered this week. Excited to get back on a consistent plan at home as being busy with the kids and life having the ease at home will be huge.
I have a tough time getting motivated to workout at home, best of luck to you!
 
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